High School DxD Light Novel - DX.5 (Short Story Collection)

[saucerKing]

Originally Posted by Itsmepatrick

It's useless even if Kiba has god like speed at that time if he couldn even use the techniques necessary to Defeat Sonneilon. I'll give you a similar case or at least something close to. Remember the fight of Issei and Nimura in Volume DX.4 even though Nimura has the upperhand in terms of speed as it's obvious in that fight that she is faster than Issei in CxC she still can't inflict damage due to her not having the power,ability or technique to defeat Issei in CxC. What Im trying to say is not because you have speed doesn't mean you can already easily kill someone slower than you in a second .Also you have to consider many things in that fight with such as Sonneilon's power,defense,techniques etc.. There's also the possibility of Sonneilon going berserk and the possibility of the barrier being destroyed due to it. Remember in that fight Kiba succeeded in angering Sonneilon and Sonneilon and he was about to remove his limiter to his power if not for Cao Cao and the others arriving.

option 1: target the eyes
option 2: keep hitting the same place over and over to accumulate damage
option 3: fire gram aura point-blank at gressil or sonellion so they absorb the whole impact and die.

options he did not lack and i doubt that kiba who is a trained fighter whose style is all about targeting weak points could not think of that. there is a difference between nimura vs issei or kiba vs issei whit his battle whit the artificial devils, issei was wearing an armor. his armor can be repaired, his armor damage is no transmitted directly to issei, on an enemy made of flesh though? kiba can literally use sheer blunt force on the same place until their bones break and unlike issei armor they cant regenerate.

[Giuseppe1234]

Originally Posted by saucerKing

option 1: target the eyes
option 2: keep hitting the same place over and over to accumulate damage
option 3: fire gram aura point-blank at gressil or sonellion so they absorb the whole impact and die.

options he did not lack and i doubt that kiba who is a trained fighter whose style is all about targeting weak points could not think of that. there is a difference between nimura vs issei or kiba vs issei whit his battle whit the artificial devils, issei was wearing an armor. his armor can be repaired, his armor damage is no transmitted directly to issei, on an enemy made of flesh though? kiba can literally use sheer blunt force on the same place until their bones break and unlike issei armor they cant regenerate.

Behead them before they can even move a single finger, slash away an arm or foot, cut their gorges.

For someone who could damage Issei’s armour, destroy Bikou’s weapon. if Issei could damage Erebus moving ascalon with the arm, for Kiba should be possible

[Lucidrago]

Originally Posted by Giuseppe1234

Behead them before they can even move a single finger, slash away an arm or foot, cut their gorges.

For someone who could damage Issei’s armour, destroy Bikou’s weapon. if Issei could damage Erebus moving ascalon with the arm, for Kiba should be possible

Have you forgotten? Swords aren't lethal in shounen.

[saucerKing]

Originally Posted by Lucidrago

Have you forgotten? Swords aren't lethal in shounen.

neither is anemia or internal bleeding. if you stop to look at DxD as a dbz whit harems and dragons instead of monkeys it starts making more sense.

[Lucidrago]

Originally Posted by saucerKing

neither is anemia or internal bleeding. if you stop to look at DxD as a dbz whit harems and dragons instead of monkeys it starts making more sense.

Difference here is that DBZ has Dragon Balls and no one stays dead for long.

[godz]

Originally Posted by Lucidrago

Difference here is that DBZ has Dragon Balls and no one stays dead for long.

issei has died almost as much as krillin, so there is not that much difference.

[B214]

We even have Evil Dragons saying they can revive after few hundred or thousand years.

[Itsmepatrick]

Originally Posted by saucerKing

option 1: target the eyes
option 2: keep hitting the same place over and over to accumulate damage
option 3: fire gram aura point-blank at gressil or sonellion so they absorb the whole impact and die.

options he did not lack and i doubt that kiba who is a trained fighter whose style is all about targeting weak points could not think of that. there is a difference between nimura vs issei or kiba vs issei whit his battle whit the artificial devils, issei was wearing an armor. his armor can be repaired, his armor damage is no transmitted directly to issei, on an enemy made of flesh though? kiba can literally use sheer blunt force on the same place until their bones break and unlike issei armor they cant regenerate.

Kiba can't even get a swing of his sword due to Sonneilon due to him targeting Kiba's wrist and feet so how do you expect him to do that. I mean in that fight he only got to swing his sword for a very few times Sonneilon will just dodge that like what he did when he sent himself flying when Kiba uses Sandantzuki on him and it'll result to the barrier breaking. All of your suggestion isn't possible without Kiba going all out in full strength. That's possible only if Kiba can fight in full strength like maybe in a Dimension made by Dimension Lost or something like that.

[Itsmepatrick]

Originally Posted by B214

We even have Evil Dragons saying they can revive after few hundred or thousand years.

The Evil Dragons are abnormal in that regards while the Dragon Kings still needed to some sort help just like Fafnir and Vritra.

[saucerKing]

Originally Posted by Lucidrago

Difference here is that DBZ has Dragon Balls and no one stays dead for long.

they dont need them, literally no one (important or named) on the side of the good guys ever dies and even if they did there is the holy grail ex machina

Originally Posted by Itsmepatrick

Kiba can't even get a swing of his sword due to Sonneilon due to him targeting Kiba's wrist and feet so how do you expect him to do that. I mean in that fight he only got to swing his sword for a very few times Sonneilon will just dodge that like what he did when he sent himself flying when Kiba uses Sandantzuki on him and it'll result to the barrier breaking. All of your suggestion isn't possible without Kiba going all out in full strength. That's possible only if Kiba can fight in full strength like maybe in a Dimension made by Dimension Lost or something like that.

kiba was moving so fast in his base state that he could keep up whit DxD issei, and whit his thrusters he goes so fast issei cant even see him so how is sonnelion going to react to that when he cant even keep up whit cao cao? and kiba does not even need to be destructive to go all out, he fought issei in a parking lot and it wasn't destroyed, kiba is not issei, when he goes all out things dont go nuclear.

[Lucidrago]

Originally Posted by saucerKing

they dont need them, literally no one (important or named) on the side of the good guys ever dies and even if they did there is the holy grail ex machina

kiba was moving so fast in his base state that he could keep up whit DxD issei, and whit his thrusters he goes so fast issei cant even see him so how is sonnelion going to react to that when he cant even keep up whit cao cao? and kiba does not even need to be destructive to go all out, he fought issei in a parking lot and it wasn't destroyed, kiba is not issei, when he goes all out things dont go nuclear.

You do remember that Sonneillon and Gresil were holding back when they first fought them right?

Sonneillon was actually not taking Kiba as seriously as he should have. If he did, it would have probably been a different story. And this was while Sonneillon was holding back. And Cao Cao timed his movements in accordance with Sonneillon activating [Compression].

Gresil was able to withstand Issei's attacks in CCQ and Akeno's Holy Lightning. And not to mention withstanding attacks from Tobio. How is Kiba with Gram supposed to fare any better? Gresil isn't a dragon and doesn't have a type disadvantage agajnst Gram and there was his ability [Resistance].

Kiba should be able to blitz Tiamat or Grayfia by that logic.

[saucerKing]

Originally Posted by Lucidrago

You do remember that Sonneillon and Gresil were holding back when they first fought them right?

Sonneillon was actually not taking Kiba as seriously as he should have. If he did, it would have probably been a different story. And this was while Sonneillon was holding back. And Cao Cao timed his movements in accordance with Sonneillon activating [Compression].

Gresil was able to withstand Issei's attacks in CCQ and Akeno's Holy Lightning. And not to mention withstanding attacks from Tobio. How is Kiba with Gram supposed to fare any better? Gresil isn't a dragon and doesn't have a type disadvantage agajnst Gram and there was his ability [Resistance].

Kiba should be able to blitz Tiamat or Grayfia by that logic.

sonneillon was still completely unable to dodge attacks from cao cao when there was no limiter and cao cao is greatly slower than current kiba so i fail to see how that matters at all, sonneillon failed to dodge cao cao attacks, how is he going to do anything against someone much faster?

ah, if only kiba had something that is lethal against devils like a holy-demonic sword, and if only kiba had been shown capable of hurting issei in P DxD whit them... too bad he apparently doesn't. its not like kiba can blitz him and stab him trough the heart whit a holy-demonic sword. surely gressil will develop a "resistance" against losing a vital organ too.

he definitely should, if he can blitz issei whit his thrusters i fail to see how those two wouldn't get blitzed too. really, right now kiba has enough speed to blitz anyone under issei and his holy-demonic swords are powerful enough to hurt issei even if it cant pierce the armor, guy can definitely take on a satan-class being whit ease.

[Giuseppe1234]

Originally Posted by saucerKing

sonneillon was still completely unable to dodge attacks from cao cao when there was no limiter and cao cao is greatly slower than current kiba so i fail to see how that matters at all, sonneillon failed to dodge cao cao attacks, how is he going to do anything against someone much faster?

ah, if only kiba had something that is lethal against devils like a holy-demonic sword, and if only kiba had been shown capable of hurting issei in P DxD whit them... too bad he apparently doesn't. its not like kiba can blitz him and stab him trough the heart whit a holy-demonic sword. surely gressil will develop a "resistance" against losing a vital organ too.

he definitely should, if he can blitz issei whit his thrusters i fail to see how those two wouldn't get blitzed too. really, right now kiba has enough speed to blitz anyone under issei and his holy-demonic swords are powerful enough to hurt issei even if it cant pierce the armor, guy can definitely take on a satan-class being whit ease.

Even god-class beings as Erebus Kiba can defeat

[Lucidrago]

Originally Posted by Giuseppe1234

Even god-class beings as Erebus Kiba can defeat

Why not have Kiba defeat Shiva while we're at it?

[Giuseppe1234]

Originally Posted by Lucidrago

Why not have Kiba defeat Shiva while we're at it?

Your humor has not sense, because with the first is possible.

[Lucidrago]

Originally Posted by Giuseppe1234

Your humor has not sense, because with the first is possible.

If Ishibumi can write Sairaorg defeating Balberith, then he can write anything. High School DxD isn't a world with logical constructs, it's the world of Ishibumi. Riser could defeat Typhon or Vidar for all we know in their Rating Game.

[B214]

As long as Ishibumi wants it, anything can happen. Rias can surpass Sirzechs, Asia can beat a God 1-on-1 etc...

[Itsmepatrick]

Originally Posted by B214

As long as Ishibumi wants it, anything can happen. Rias can surpass Sirzechs, Asia can beat a God 1-on-1 etc...

Well It's already possible for Asia even now to defeat a god(non battle gods) with the help of Fafnir and her Twilight Saint Affection based on her battles shown so far though it's just my opinion.

[B214]

When i said 1-on-1 means no Fafnir, no familiars. Just Asia solo.

[saucerKing]

Originally Posted by Lucidrago

If Ishibumi can write Sairaorg defeating Balberith, then he can write anything. High School DxD isn't a world with logical constructs, it's the world of Ishibumi. Riser could defeat Typhon or Vidar for all we know in their Rating Game.

dont jinx it