2013-01-15, 16:45 | Link #981 | |
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So to our current knowledge, Scher sees Titus as nothing more than a construct. A golem. A short-lived clone of herself that she can manipulate remotely. The principal sees Titus as a human being. A person with his own fears and desires. And Scher has made Titus's attempts to exercise his own will into a pretext for starting a war. So it's not surprising that Titus would side with the magicians, even though he may have misgivings and disagreements over the treatment of the non-magicians. |
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2013-01-15, 18:20 | Link #982 | |
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....Which is ironic when you remember that he literally treats any non-magician as livestock. That being said, I wouldn't say that lolimagi is completely in the right, either (her empire is technically one that still practices slavery, is it not?), but I would say that her cause is more just when compared to Dumblemort's. I mean, at least her country offers equal opportunities, slavery or not..... |
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2013-01-15, 18:54 | Link #983 | |
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Either way, she and Laem are far more preferable than the mage side. After all, the entire thing can be said to have started when Dumbodork started freely exporting magic items and weaponry to criminals and the like in the area, causing more instability.
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2013-01-15, 19:17 | Link #984 |
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I don't know what Titus is. Do we consider Naruto evil because he sends scores of shadow clones out to be slaughtered? If he gave enough chakra/rukh to a clone so that it lasted a week/month/year would it be human with all its rights, dreams and aspirations? Could it sue for support? I know the goi are human, but what about Titus?
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2013-01-15, 19:51 | Link #985 |
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If Titus didn't have free will, then we probably wouldn't have cared as much...but he does. He's aware of himself and even changed his actions from how he was ordered to act because of his feelings. That indicates that he's not only a sentient being, but one that is fully aware of 'himself' as an individual and has personal desires and a free will.
Titus was created to be treated as a human (a sorcerer, at that) and with that, goes all entitlements thereof. This is why his plight was pitiful since he was created as a separate entity of his master/creator for something like this. He was created with enough of his own will and self-awareness that he could think and process things as a sentient being would. It's morally wrong, but legally, the sorcerers are stealing her 'property' so... *shrugs* Doesn't mean that she doesn't deserve a firm 'B-slap' for creating something like that and then not caring about it once it developed a will on it's own, separate from what it was intended for or outside the scope of it's intended use - that's why it's called FREE WILL. Morally, she's in the dirt because of that and it's also why Dumbledore got cool points with us becuase of it. Still, like reality, virutally all humans, no matter how upstanding and right they are, have something about them or something that they do that's pretty low and sometimes shameful.
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2013-01-15, 19:57 | Link #986 |
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I did not say what she did regarding Titus was right but it's like people are saying that Dumbodork is now somehow better than her because of it? Despite being what....someone who uses humans as batteries, goes on whole sale slaughtering once he's in power, makes society docile to the point of pathetic weakness, spreads magic items into the hands of criminal groups, works with Al Sarmen etc
Show me where lolimagi did not screw over the lives of so many others to the extent Dumbodork did Dumbodork cares genuinely for his own kind......and that's it
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2013-01-15, 22:12 | Link #987 | |
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This war is not just for her country, it could also be a clash of ideals, and we all know from our history that kind of conflict are very hard to decide who's right or wrong.
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2013-01-15, 23:20 | Link #988 |
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I don't believe Titus has ever expressed his wishes to lolimagi, we don't know how she feels about them.
Given her trust in Titus, i think its safe to assume that all others she created had no problems with their situation, and so to her she might feel its completely normal and natural that his role ends. |
2013-01-16, 00:22 | Link #990 |
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That's too far for Sindria to join now. Unless Sindbad had made a off-screen march over the past few chapters, it make no sense for Sindria's force to show up in this war.
Beside, Sinsbad is not the type of King that will mobilize his force without a good reason. Sindria is part of Seven Seas Alliance, itself alone won't be enough to tackle Reim and I don't think other nation's leaders would want to fight with Reim just because Sindbad said so.
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2013-01-16, 01:51 | Link #991 | |
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Yes, because non magicians have been treating his 'kind' with soo much love and care right? Besides according to Scher, humans can push forth and advance on their own. Where does that leave magicians? Not needed again. Or only useful for their abilities to make rain and whatnot. If so fine, leave them the #$%# alone! But no, war. Both sides are pretty screwed up in the end.
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2013-01-16, 03:42 | Link #995 | |
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So now if mages are not needed on a massive scale it auto means that they are given the worst kinds of treatment? Or would you rather have them relied so much upon, common humans end up wasting away?
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None of that really speaks of it remotely occurring to her to think of Titus as his own person, or think anything about what Titus wants or how he feels. Or gives any indication that she'd care if she knew seeing as she immediately used it as a pretext for declaring war. Quote:
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