Hayate no Gotoku manga (raw discussion only)

[Game8910]

271. We're no strangers to love
272. You know the rules, and so do I
273. A full commitment is what I'm thinking of
274. You won't get this from any other guy
275. I just wanna tell you how I'm feeling
276. Gotta make you understand
277. Never gonna give you up
278. Never gonna let you down

Concludes Hina arc

[arand017]

LoL at sink the pink

That's like sink Hina

[Used Can]

Originally Posted by arand017

LoL at sink the pink

That's like sink Hina

You make me feel as if I have a rotten mind. ;_;

[primuler]

Spoiler for Did you guys know that HnG had two titles every chapter ever since the 21st chapter?:

On the left is the chapter name on manga. On the right is the name Hata puts in his blog whenever he mentions spoilers&reviews

A man's battle [Chapter 21] Wataru. That 2
Tokyo Underground [Chapter 22] It is said that enormous white crocodile lives in the sewers of Tokyo.
Kingdom of ambition [Chapter 23] The kingdom of ambition - Boy's generation.
I was so frustrated from losing to the kids in town that won, but I don't regret it[Chapter 24] Which side that is, I liked 毛利名人.
Peter Pan is annoying[Chapter 25] I will never forget the shock I had when I heard Pi○pan's sound. (Peter Pan)
Who thought of that Kapon~ sound. They're amazing[Chapter 26] After drawing, the bath story which I ardently think is the opposite.
(Hata mentions here that there's Saki's story he wants to do which is related to Hayate)
I've never gone through hardships of popularity[Chapter 27] Provisional last episode, that 2(1)
I wanted to see someone challenge the super shuffle[Chapter 28] I'm worried because of subheading
When Ojou sama wasn't there[Chapter 29] Because there are so many shocking events...
Sway my heart[Chapter 30] I'm drawing second volume's cover
I hope my voice reaches you[Chapter 31] The distant feel of Mangado (manga road)
Hayate the Combat Butler [Chapter 32] That is the butler's decisive line.
If this was an anime, the opening theme would have changed![Chapter 33] Do you like school?
If sensei told you to die, you would die wouldn't you[Chapter 34] Rather than Kan-san's version, I like Shimamoto-sensei's version
It's not like idiots, smoke and cats like to ascend to high places[Chapter 35] Campaign right before volume 2 comes out

Well, these titles get serious when they enter Athena arc and this arc.

I'll translate others later.

[Koroshiya_Kame_13]

Alright I found early spoilers again.

Spoiler for Link for spoiler picture:

http://bbs.sosg.net/topic_327038.html

Spoiler for Chapter 241 spoilers. Get ready for a surprise.:

タイトル「アイギスの盾」
10年前 恐らく学園のどこか 魔方陣のようなものを浮かべ庭城への道が閉ざされているとつぶやくアテネ
その後ろには帝が
城から出て眠っている間に道が閉じたとアテネは言う それならばもう力を手にすることはできないと帝
誰かに力を奪われたからではないか、それができたのはあるいはハヤテではないかと思うアテネ
自分たち三人が神の力を手に入れようとした罰だと帝は言う 三人とはアテネ、帝、そして姫神らしい
その中でもアテネが最も重い罰を受けたらしい
これからどうすると言う帝に父と母のために天王州家をとりもどすとアテネは言う
１人では辛いのではと尋ねる帝に、アテネはそのために罰を受けたのだと話す

そして現在、アテネ宅の庭で対峙するハヤテとマキナ
マキナは、今までアテネは辛いことも我慢して１人で頑張ってきたのだと言う
だがハヤテが現れてからは平気な顔をしているがつらそうにしている
だからお前はここで死ね、と言い先ほどまでとは比べ物にならない力でハヤテを襲う
人を殺せば罪になると言うハヤテに、人でないなら問題はないとマキナは答える
そして、マキナの蹴りがハヤテに当たってハヤテ瀕死ぽくなる
姫神は前回のハヤテ兄と同じで帝とアテネの会話でしか出てこない＝外見がわかるわけじゃない
マキナの言った「人でないなら～」は、マキナが自分のことを言ったように見えた
アテネの魔法っぽいのとか、輝石についてとかなんかマジでファンタジーチックで雰囲気違うみた いだわ
ちなみに輝石についてアテネは「私の力では祓えない」「そういうのは得意でない」
あと「1000年に一人の天才なら(祓うのも)可能かもしれない」的なこと言ってた
はちかづきがふんどしもろ、略してふんもろしてた
エンゲキブが首ちょんぱ
小飒竟然输了，还瀕死，还有：1.帝、雅典娜跟姫神曾被神罰，其中雅典娜受罰最重
2.馬奇納不是人。
Sorry but I feel sick today so I won't translate the Japanese. Much appreciated if primuler or anyone who is good at Japanese can translate the spoilers for all the anticipating fans. If the Chinese word for word spoilers come out I'll translate it but they don't have it now.
The Chinese at the bottom reveals some interesting information in the spoilers (Assuming if they did translate it correctly). Basically in this chapter Hayate lost against Machina (almost on the verge of death I think. "瀕死").
The information are:
1. Mikado, Athena and Himegami have suffered God's Punishment, while Athena's punishment was the worst.
2. Machina isn't human.

[primuler]

Originally Posted by Koroshiya_Kame_13

Alright I found early spoilers again.

Spoiler for Link for spoiler picture:

http://bbs.sosg.net/topic_327038.html

Spoiler for Chapter 241 spoilers. Get ready for a surprise.:

タイトル「アイギスの盾」
10年前 恐らく学園のどこか 魔方陣のようなものを浮かべ庭城への道が閉ざされているとつぶやくアテネ
その後ろには帝が
城から出て眠っている間に道が閉じたとアテネは言う それならばもう力を手にすることはできないと帝
誰かに力を奪われたからではないか、それができたのはあるいはハヤテではないかと思うアテネ
自分たち三人が神の力を手に入れようとした罰だと帝は言う 三人とはアテネ、帝、そして姫神らしい
その中でもアテネが最も重い罰を受けたらしい
これからどうすると言う帝に父と母のために天王州家をとりもどすとアテネは言う
１人では辛いのではと尋ねる帝に、アテネはそのために罰を受けたのだと話す

そして現在、アテネ宅の庭で対峙するハヤテとマキナ
マキナは、今までアテネは辛いことも我慢して１人で頑張ってきたのだと言う
だがハヤテが現れてからは平気な顔をしているがつらそうにしている
だからお前はここで死ね、と言い先ほどまでとは比べ物にならない力でハヤテを襲う
人を殺せば罪になると言うハヤテに、人でないなら問題はないとマキナは答える
そして、マキナの蹴りがハヤテに当たってハヤテ瀕死ぽくなる
姫神は前回のハヤテ兄と同じで帝とアテネの会話でしか出てこない＝外見がわかるわけじゃない
マキナの言った「人でないなら～」は、マキナが自分のことを言ったように見えた
アテネの魔法っぽいのとか、輝石についてとかなんかマジでファンタジーチックで雰囲気違うみた いだわ
ちなみに輝石についてアテネは「私の力では祓えない」「そういうのは得意でない」
あと「1000年に一人の天才なら(祓うのも)可能かもしれない」的なこと言ってた
はちかづきがふんどしもろ、略してふんもろしてた
エンゲキブが首ちょんぱ
小飒竟然输了，还瀕死，还有：1.帝、雅典娜跟姫神曾被神罰，其中雅典娜受罰最重
2.馬奇納不是人。
Sorry but I feel sick today so I won't translate the Japanese. Much appreciated if primuler or anyone who is good at Japanese can translate the spoilers for all the anticipating fans. If the Chinese word for word spoilers come out I'll translate it but they don't have it now.
The Chinese at the bottom reveals some interesting information in the spoilers (Assuming if they did translate it correctly). Basically in this chapter Hayate lost against Machina (almost on the verge of death I think. "瀕死").
The information are:
1. Mikado, Athena and Himegami have suffered God's Punishment, while Athena's punishment was the worst.
2. Machina isn't human.

Thank you for the early reminder. Before I translate properly, one thing.

Athena is currently trying to find Tennous family again for her parents (I dunno what she means by that) and it seems that Hayate has her power and she needs that power to go back to Royal Garden and achieve her goal.

[Game8910]

oh wow....oh wow...oh wow!!!!! this is sooo epic

[qwertyman]

Originally Posted by primuler

Athena is currently trying to find Tennous family again for her parents (I dunno what she means by that) and it seems that Hayate has her power and she needs that power to go back to Royal Garden and achieve her goal.

Sounds interesting.

Reminds me of something out of xxxHolic. Something like, Athena managed to lose all of her magical power, which is what she used in the first place to get to the Royal Garden and stay in there. Since Hayate still has remnants of her power in him (from whatever spell she used on him to "heal his wounds" or whatever), if she takes that magic back she can use it return to the Royal Garden.

[primuler]

Spoiler for Chapter 241 - Shield of Aegis:

10 years ago, somewhere in the Hakuo Academy.
While summoning magical pentagrams around her, Athena mutters that the way to the Royal Garden was closed.
Behind her is Mikado.
Athena says that while she slept out of the castle, the way disappeared
And Mikado says that then there's no way anyone can get his/her hands on that power.
Athena thinks that it's because her power was taken away by someone, and if that's possible, that's Hayate.
Mikado says that it's a punishment for the three of them who were trying to get their hands on that power.
It seems that the three people are Athena, Mikado and Himegami.
It also seems that Athena has gotten the heaviest punishment.
Mikado asks Athena what would she like to do from now on and Athena answers that she would regain Tennous family for her parents.
Mikado asks her if that wouldn't she be painful by herself, and Athena says that that's why she received the punishment.

We're back to the present now. Hayate and Machina confronts each other.
Machina says that Athena endured painful things by herself and tried so hard.
But after Hayate appeared, she makes faces to look as if nothing's wrong with her, but she looks like she is in agony.
He says that so Hayate should die right here, and he attacks with imcomparable strength.
Hayate says that killing human is a crime and Machina says that it doesn't matter if he's not a human.
(This is the confusing part. Could it be that Machina is not a human?)
And Machina kicks Hayate like mad.

[qwertyman]

So we finally get a decent fight scene? And possibly Hayate using his move next chapter?

Took Hata long enough!

[SirWence]

It is nice to know details are given rather then it just being an all out brawl... ^-^

gods punishment .. for what ? Misuse ? and if so how ?

Also am I the only one feels all her goals are entirely self aimed.. and wasnt greed sort of a bit of a bad thing stone wise? Hmm interesting stuff though... I wonder what Hayate will do. I suppose its time for a resolve test?

[Rah]

Thanks for the spoilers, and thanks in advance to whomever translates them.

Originally Posted by qwertyman

Sounds interesting.

Reminds me of something out of xxxHolic. Something like, Athena managed to lose all of her magical power, which is what she used in the first place to get to the Royal Garden and stay in there. Since Hayate still has remnants of her power in him (from whatever spell she used on him to "heal his wounds" or whatever), if she takes that magic back she can use it return to the Royal Garden.

Exactly what I thought, except that the first thing I asked myself was: What will happen to Hayate after, if of course, she takes her powers back. He was weak and worthless. He couldn't even carry a bucket of water. He trained for all these years, but yet again, we don't know just to what extent those powers that Athena gave him help him. Hayate could be cursed, and that magic which Athena used on him, removed it, or just blocked it. It's like being in space with a diving suit. Kay, perhaps that wouldn't last all that long.. maybe another extra minute. Damn, okay, fine, add that he's in slowmotion. That fixes everything, and shows a fine example. Now Space Athena comes, and takes his suit. Ahhh, the sweet exposure to vacuum in slowmotion.

^_^;;

So, Machi is a robot after all? Well, that breaks apart my Machi x Athena theory, unless she has a robot fetish. Or he's something else...

1. Mikado, Athena and Himegami have suffered God's Punishment, while Athena's punishment was the worst.


Something which money can't buy, eh? Mikado is rich as fuck, but he might be suffering from something. Himegami tried to steal something, right? I don't recall what it was, but I think it was something related to the RG. Athena said in the End of the World arc, that the RG is where a God lives, or lived? If that is so, then it's basically one of God's residences? ........

Mikado stole from there, if I'm not mistaken. Himegami tried to steal it too, but indirectly, through Nagi, or something like that.

Athena's parents, not satisfied with only stealing, decided to go and live there. Then they somehow shifted the whole God's curse thing on Athena.

Well, that's some messed up logic I came up with. Heh..

Anyway, what about Hayate? Why is he constantly tormented with bad luck? Can we conclude that this is all God's doing, and it's somehow all related to the RG? If 1 family member get's cursed, does it spread to everyone? Just what is Hayate's brother...


Ahhh, this is overloading my head! >_<


*sigh*


-Edit-

Wait, wait, wait....

Athena's powers? ............. errrrrrrrrrrrrrr what powers? Mahou Shoujo Golden Athena??

...
...

Kay, overload complete. All systems performing emergency shut down to preserve core system memory. *bbbbzzzzzzzzzzwwwwxxxxx.......*


-Edit2-

Kay, so much for blindness being an excuse. Takes me half an hour to make up all this stuff~

I didn't notice the translation from primuler, before posting this.

Originally Posted by primuler

Spoiler for Chapter 241 - Shield of Aegis:

10 years ago, somewhere in the Hakuo Academy.
While summoning magical pentagrams around her, Athena mutters that the way to the Royal Garden was closed.
Behind her is Mikado.
Athena says that while she slept out of the castle, the way disappeared
And Mikado says that then there's no way anyone can get his/her hands on that power.
Athena thinks that it's because her power was taken away by someone, and if that's possible, that's Hayate.
Mikado says that it's a punishment for the three of them who were trying to get their hands on that power.
It seems that the three people are Athena, Mikado and Himegami.
It also seems that Athena has gotten the heaviest punishment.
Mikado asks Athena what would she like to do from now on and Athena answers that she would regain Tennous family for her parents.
Mikado asks her if that wouldn't she be painful by herself, and Athena says that that's why she received the punishment.

We're back to the present now. Hayate and Machina confronts each other.
Machina says that Athena endured painful things by herself and tried so hard.
But after Hayate appeared, she makes faces to look as if nothing's wrong with her, but she looks like she is in agony.
He says that so Hayate should die right here, and he attacks with imcomparable strength.
Hayate says that killing human is a crime and Machina says that it doesn't matter if he's not a human.
(This is the confusing part. Could it be that Machina is not a human?)
And Machina kicks Hayate like mad.

So much for my logic...

This simplification of things actually saddens me. It was fun thinking of all the possibilities. So..... Athena was summoning the RG? But that's not fun! LIES! She was trying to summon demons!! After she takes her powers back from Hayate, she will summon the lvl 120 demon boss. Hayate will need mad training, like swimming in lava without goggles, just to beat it (to get endurance against fire magic, the demon uses a high level fire breath, and meteor storm).

....
...........

[Game8910]

The thought of Athena suffering alone for so long crushes my heart, her goals however seem a little selfish but its to be expected if she is to pass as an antagonish....this makes me like her more <3

[SirWence]

Hmm to be honest I agree on the selfish bit as I stated elsewhere to.. But I dont think thats going to help her now.. I think it will only make it worse.. and thats coming from someone who ISNT a Fan boy of hers at all

as for whats in the RG ... if its that thing we saw back in the EotW arc... I would rather see it destroyed. Then revere it. Or perhaps that was a curse or punishment? "lord of hate" ... hmm

[GDB]

Originally Posted by Rah

Wait, wait, wait....

Athena's powers? ............. errrrrrrrrrrrrrr what powers? Mahou Shoujo Golden Athena??

If you couldn't tell she had powers based on End of the World, you've either forgotten most of what happened or weren't paying attention.

She did use magic to heal Hayate's wounds and summon a freaky skeleton demon, after all.

[SirWence]

was it ever directly proved if she herself summoned it. Or if it was self summoned

It feels nice to be fully vindicated by those who mocked me for saying she had powers ^^

[Rah]

Originally Posted by GDB

If you couldn't tell she had powers based on End of the World, you've either forgotten most of what happened or weren't paying attention.

She did use magic to heal Hayate's wounds and summon a freaky skeleton demon, after all.

I thought it was related to the RG. Now, from what I understand, she had some kind of powers BEFORE going to the RG.

.... Things are getting messed up. ^_^

[Miraluka]

Finally the thing are going J.A.P. I feel bad for Athena ..... Nagi... who is she??

[qwertyman]

Originally Posted by SirWence

was it ever directly proved if she herself summoned it. Or if it was self summoned

It feels nice to be fully vindicated by those who mocked me for saying she had powers ^^

It just popped out of nowhere, no one really knows any details about it except that it was apparently the spirit of King Midas or something.

[Game8910]

Originally Posted by SirWence

was it ever directly proved if she herself summoned it. Or if it was self summoned

It feels nice to be fully vindicated by those who mocked me for saying she had powers ^^

the skeleton was self summoned, my theory is that Athena and Hayate's strong feelings of angst trigger the summoning, the fact that Hayate was able to see it and not Athena further confirms that Hayate now possesses some power Athena doesnt, after all he can also see the dead priest. Hayate and Isumi might be the only ones with such powers