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View Poll Results: Valvrave the Liberator - Episode 10 Rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 53 | 39.26% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 29 | 21.48% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 21 | 15.56% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 8 | 5.93% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 7 | 5.19% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 2 | 1.48% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 1 | 0.74% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 2 | 1.48% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 1 | 0.74% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 11 | 8.15% | |
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2013-06-15, 11:09 | Link #461 |
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So do you guys think that Cain will actually capture a Valvrave? That's his main mission right? Plus, this is his final shot at getting one so I doubt that he'd want to go home empty handed.
Cain also mentons that he's worried about the resurgence of the king's faction. Do you guys think that the king's faction will become a threat to the fuhrer's faction in the 2nd cour? Maybe, if New Jior gets completely wiped out in the season finale, the survivors will join the king's faction in the 2nd cour? |
2013-06-15, 11:33 | Link #462 | |
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2013-06-15, 11:55 | Link #463 |
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Here is a weird idea that came across my mind: The scene in question has a similar reaction to Lelouch's death in Code Geass. Let me explain. He dies and there is a divide as to whether or not he stayed dead or if he was later revived via a code. Most people day he stayed dead, but the people that say otherwise have strong case supporting their side. The similarity here? Saki and Haruto have coitus and based on Saki's struggling at the very beginning one could call it rape (and so far most people do) and there is the side that says it is not rape based on Saki consenting and context as to why she did. Both series have an extreme WHAM moment happen and there is some divide with a minority having some legit case to disagree with the majority (maybe the screenwriter planned this in both). The main difference here? It is not the final episode, so some concerns the audience (us) has might be answered in the next episode. The point I am trying to make is that there is uncertainty here, I am not writing the scene off as "not rape" 100% and I think that people that do consider it rape shouldn't right off the people (like me) that don't see it as such just because there is a different view of context.
This also brings me to another question that I'm surprised nobody considered: Did Saki consider the act as rape on her? I will admit, even I find that unlikely, but it is not impossible. Right now you can't say for certain even with body language in the last shot of the episode or the preview, there is too little to confirm. She'll most likely tell Haruto about what happened, so it is not like the idea is 100% out of the ball park. Maybe she will say what went through her mind. I suck at critical thinking, don't I? Personally I am going to wait for episode 11 before making up my mind on the events of the second half of 10. Who knows, maybe I brought up something smart. |
2013-06-15, 12:26 | Link #466 |
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Try putting yourself in Saki's shoes. Your crush suddenly went out of his mind and suffered for hours on end. Then in his out of control state he sexually assaulted you, pinning you on the ground with no say on whether to accept or decline. He proceeded to rape you with those creepy and deadpan red eyes. You don't even feel like you're making love with your crush moreso with a wild beast. At the same time you accept it as a curse and decided to bear the burden. How is that, in any way, consensual sex?
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2013-06-15, 12:29 | Link #467 |
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I have a little theory on Haruto's power..
It is indeed a "holy spirit" and it takes on the "attribute" of its vessel (Haruto). In my impression of Haruto, his attribute would be on the lines on making everyone happy, which the "holy spirit" goes and tries to do by fulfilling the wishes of those around him through its omniscient power. Supporting my theory, every time (that I remember) Haruto gets possessed, he fulfills or attempts to fulfill a desire of the person he attacks. L-Elf got attacked and now his plan of bringing revolution to Dorssia is coming to fruition Blonde chick girl (episode 10) started having wavering feelings about him, and it seemed to trigger his transformation. Saki (episode 10), who clearly wants Haruto to herself, got increasingly jealous and it perhaps correlated with the increase of attempted transformations Haruto spoke of. In the end, she got a form of her wish, since we all know she up and accepted his rape. Of course this purely speculation, but I think it would be cool to have it go this route. I don't want this incident to tarnish my opinion of Haruto considering how pure he is and it would be great if this power had some higher meaning than some releasing of carnal instincts - which I think Haruto barely had any to begin with. I do enjoy the huge dramatic irony the people of the show put up, and I can't wait to see how the two resolve themselves.. Also, after reading prior posts, I would like to report that, according to Wikipedia, a second season is set to release Oct 2013 (Why not make it a full 25 episode season? I don't know. Maybe there will be some giant-a cliffhanger in episode 12) So that should settle any anxiety about time and proper wrap-ups from the show. |
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2013-06-15, 13:07 | Link #470 | |
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Also, isn't it by popular consensus that it ended up being consensual? So as the old internet phrase go, "Doesn't matter, still had sex." Edit: To be fair, Saki wasn't the only person raped. Pretty sure Haruto didn't want to have sex with Saki either. Got to blame that "holy spirit" of his :S |
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2013-06-15, 13:30 | Link #475 | |
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Too late now, Sunrise is shipping Saki x Haruto hard. For hard, I mean a very HARD way. |
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2013-06-15, 13:50 | Link #476 | |
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Even if they do get together, Saki will always wake up wondering if he really loves her or if she'll have to kill him that day. Sunrise is terrible.
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2013-06-15, 14:00 | Link #478 | |
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I'm starting to think the 200-year time skip will take place during the latter half of season 2. That way they can address all these plot points including Dorssia, Liselotte, and the King's faction that they set up this so late in this season.
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2013-06-15, 14:14 | Link #480 | |
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I also wondered where the survivors of New Jior would go if their home was destroyed. Now that problem is solved as well. I still don't wont a 200-year time skip. If Saki's "promise" is the one she made with Haruto this episode then that would mean that she's on a mission to kill Haruto. Who probably became an evil dictator. I don't want to see all of that suffering. |
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