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00-Raiser · 2011-12-07, 15:53

Teana's only in charge because Hayate is under investigation (again). I doubt they'll make any moves until Hayate is in the clear again.

Akiyoshi · 2011-12-07, 16:34

It will be a shame, tough. Teana has gathered good fame for being a good strategist(and, unlike Hayate, she have some real feats supporting that) having her in charge it will be a good excuse to let her being awesome in her own exclusive way xD.

00-Raiser · 2011-12-07, 16:38

Hayate doesn't have to make strategies. She's the commander: she has people to do that for her.

Keroko · 2011-12-07, 17:01

Nice. So the only thing Hayate can do, she can't do anymore because the other characters can do that better. Why not just put her on ice entirely?

Seriously though, I never really liked the Hayate in command thing to begin with since it put her off the battlefield and into a role not all that different from Yuuno.

Yeah. The shaft role.

But in command, at least she could pull some crazy command scheme and become a bad-ass commander. That's a cool role too. If actually executed properly. Which Force does not. I mean, last chapter she was praised for letting herself get tied up in red tape. Really? I'm no military genius, but since when was that an accomplishment worthy of praise?

So yeah, count me as someone who hopes that Hayate gets out on the field again, because Tsuzuki cannot write a commander Hayate. Let her get back to the field with the other two aces, where she can blast the crap out of enemies.

Akiyoshi · 2011-12-07, 17:17

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Originally Posted by Keroko

So yeah, count me as someone who hopes that Hayate gets out on the field again, because Tsuzuki cannot write a commander Hayate. Let her get back to the field with the other two aces, where she can blast the crap out of enemies.

Keroko for president! xD

No, seriously, he's right. Sure, we know Hayate is a glass cannon and a Squishy Wizard but insted on keeping reminding us he's unsuited for direct combat why Tsuzuki don't focus on her strenghes instead? Tons of times were told the Yagami-ke is a powerfull force to be reckoned with when they fight togheter becuase they have amazing temwork and cover each other weaknesses, allowing Hayate to focus on being a super awesome bombardement mage.

I wish that at least just fdor once we get to see the Yagami family being that awesome super team instead of that just happening off screen.

00-Raiser · 2011-12-07, 17:40

Being in command just isn't all that glorious. It's mostly paper work and politics. But that's what Hayate wanted so no sense complaining about it.

Justin_Brett · 2011-12-07, 17:48

You can definitely complain about Tsuzuki being shit at writing that as a personal strength of hers, though.

And yeah that's how command works in real life. But typically not in fiction, which this is.

itanshi1 · 2011-12-07, 17:53

General/Commander's job is to mitigate the big and small pictures. It certainly can be well written

Tiresias · 2011-12-07, 18:12

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Originally Posted by 00-Raiser

Hayate doesn't have to make strategies. She's the commander: she has people to do that for her.

Wai-wha?! Okay let's get this straight first, just who are the "people" you are referring?

LostSome · 2011-12-07, 18:25

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Originally Posted by Tiresias

Wai-wha?! Okay let's get this straight first, just who are the "people" you are referring?

I`m curious about that as well.

She doesn`t even have a second-in-command if something were to happen to her on the field...
The mayhem in R6`s ranks when she got stab... Deville and Arnage left the battlefield on their own and Fate was just there, saying "wait".

Justin_Brett · 2011-12-07, 18:34

She has Griffith...who isn't a field officer and did basically nothing when she was injured.

Akiyoshi · 2011-12-07, 18:41

Yeah, i also wonder what happened with him and those usefull people from Long Arch xDU

LostSome · 2011-12-07, 18:46

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Yeah, i also wonder what happened with him and those usefull people from Long Arch xDU

I`ll say a promotion and they got the hell out of there.

ZeroIchiNi · 2011-12-07, 18:47

Who's Griffith? I feel like that person is important. j/k

Akiyoshi · 2011-12-07, 19:09

The glasses guy with purple hair, he's the son of Admiral Leti Lowran and also currently married to Lucino.

I don't remember his exact rank when he was part of RF6 but apparenlty it was the closest Hayate had as a 2nd in command.

Trivia: is a childhood friend of Shari xD

Kaijo · 2011-12-07, 19:15

Griffith wasn't there, though. At the end of StrikerS, he and Lucino went to the same ship. I think, if anything, Nanoha or Fate would be second in command. Maybe Lucino, as far as matters aboard ship. But Teana is a good second-in-command for the mission.

Anyway, I'm not as hung up about Hayate being in command, and not really in the field so much. Someone has to be command, so who would we suggest? A completely new person with no magical abilities? Serious and honest question here. Who would you rather have in charge in order to put Hayate into the field?

From my point of view, I think she's good there; she is fairly intelligent. She figured out the cyborg incident with the Nakajima's, would be related to the drones. And she also figured out that Regius was connected to it, while also cutting through Bureau red tape to expertly create a unit that could respond to the drones and AMF. As Genya said, "That's one smart little girl!"

On another topic... Thoma and Lily shared a bed? And they aren't in a relationship? I guess, in the Nanohaverse, sharing a bed is no big deal after all! :P (Oh yes, I went there!)

Especially considering Yuuno and Nanoha shared a bath!

ZeroIchiNi · 2011-12-07, 19:16

not joking: Who's Lucino?

Rising Dragon · 2011-12-07, 19:27

Pink-haired girl who served as the skipper on the Arthra in StrikerS--the position Amy had in the previous two seasons. She communicated with Signum when Signum and Agito took down all those drones.

Tiresias · 2011-12-07, 19:30

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Originally Posted by Justin_Brett

She has Griffith...who isn't a field officer and did basically nothing when she was injured.

Strategy is basically how you want to allocate your resources, troops and ships and all, on a broad view - it's the work of those up high, not below.

The only one higher than Hayate are the top brass, and they were not there - she's the one out there commanding MS6. The REMF's can only give broad instructions on the goals and rules of engagements, but the rest of the strategies and tactics is for MS6 to devise since coordinating every move with the top is horribly inefficient in rapidly evolving mission situations which is the characteristics of modern engagements. That means on this level Hayate has her own strategy to devise.

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Someone has to be command, so who would we suggest? A completely new person with no magical abilities? Serious and honest question here. Who would you rather have in charge in order to put Hayate into the field?

Genya? No wait, he's lower-ranked than her. The Harlouwns then, Chrono or Lindy. Especially Chrono, now that Yuuno got a cameo.

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Originally Posted by ZeroIchiNi

not joking: Who's Lucino?

Griffith's waifu.

LostSome · 2011-12-07, 19:32

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Originally Posted by Kaijo

On another topic... Thoma and Lily shared a bed? And they aren't in a relationship? I guess, in the Nanohaverse, sharing a bed is no big deal after all! :P (Oh yes, I went there!)

Especially considering Yuuno and Nanoha shared a bath!

I`ll say it`s good pratice if he`s serious about living with the Nakajima.
I`m sure Erio wasn`t expecting a full view of Subaru at the hot baths.

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Akiyoshi The Flame Crussader Join Date: Aug 2009	It will be a shame, tough. Teana has gathered good fame for being a good strategist(and, unlike Hayate, she have some real feats supporting that) having her in charge it will be a good excuse to let her being awesome in her own exclusive way xD. __________________ May 29 2010-2019 ...9 years ago, the day after never would be the same ~The ASFB~

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00-Raiser Burst Mode Author Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Windsor, Ontario Age: 37	Hayate doesn't have to make strategies. She's the commander: she has people to do that for her. __________________

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Keroko Adeptus Animus Author Join Date: Jan 2007 Age: 36	Nice. So the only thing Hayate can do, she can't do anymore because the other characters can do that better. Why not just put her on ice entirely? Seriously though, I never really liked the Hayate in command thing to begin with since it put her off the battlefield and into a role not all that different from Yuuno. Yeah. The shaft role. But in command, at least she could pull some crazy command scheme and become a bad-ass commander. That's a cool role too. If actually executed properly. Which Force does not. I mean, last chapter she was praised for letting herself get tied up in red tape. Really? I'm no military genius, but since when was that an accomplishment worthy of praise? So yeah, count me as someone who hopes that Hayate gets out on the field again, because Tsuzuki cannot write a commander Hayate. Let her get back to the field with the other two aces, where she can blast the crap out of enemies.

2011-12-07, 17:48	Link #4747
Justin_Brett Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Canada, Sault Ste. Marie	You can definitely complain about Tsuzuki being shit at writing that as a personal strength of hers, though. And yeah that's how command works in real life. But typically not in fiction, which this is.

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Justin_Brett Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Canada, Sault Ste. Marie	She has Griffith...who isn't a field officer and did basically nothing when she was injured.

2011-12-07, 18:41	Link #4752
Akiyoshi The Flame Crussader Join Date: Aug 2009	Yeah, i also wonder what happened with him and those usefull people from Long Arch xDU __________________ May 29 2010-2019 ...9 years ago, the day after never would be the same ~The ASFB~

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ZeroIchiNi Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008	Who's Griffith? I feel like that person is important. j/k

2011-12-07, 19:09	Link #4755
Akiyoshi The Flame Crussader Join Date: Aug 2009	The glasses guy with purple hair, he's the son of Admiral Leti Lowran and also currently married to Lucino. I don't remember his exact rank when he was part of RF6 but apparenlty it was the closest Hayate had as a 2nd in command. Trivia: is a childhood friend of Shari xD __________________ May 29 2010-2019 ...9 years ago, the day after never would be the same ~The ASFB~

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Kaijo Banned Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Somewhere over the rainbow, in a house dropped on an ugly, old woman.	Griffith wasn't there, though. At the end of StrikerS, he and Lucino went to the same ship. I think, if anything, Nanoha or Fate would be second in command. Maybe Lucino, as far as matters aboard ship. But Teana is a good second-in-command for the mission. Anyway, I'm not as hung up about Hayate being in command, and not really in the field so much. Someone has to be command, so who would we suggest? A completely new person with no magical abilities? Serious and honest question here. Who would you rather have in charge in order to put Hayate into the field? From my point of view, I think she's good there; she is fairly intelligent. She figured out the cyborg incident with the Nakajima's, would be related to the drones. And she also figured out that Regius was connected to it, while also cutting through Bureau red tape to expertly create a unit that could respond to the drones and AMF. As Genya said, "That's one smart little girl!" On another topic... Thoma and Lily shared a bed? And they aren't in a relationship? I guess, in the Nanohaverse, sharing a bed is no big deal after all! :P (Oh yes, I went there!) Especially considering Yuuno and Nanoha shared a bath!

2011-12-07, 19:16	Link #4757
ZeroIchiNi Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008	not joking: Who's Lucino?

2011-12-07, 19:27	Link #4758
Rising Dragon Goat Herder Author Join Date: Jun 2008 Age: 36	Pink-haired girl who served as the skipper on the Arthra in StrikerS--the position Amy had in the previous two seasons. She communicated with Signum when Signum and Agito took down all those drones. __________________