2011-05-02, 23:39 | Link #1141 |
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Despite all its flaws, I still like IS. It already has different plot points that can be built up at any time to advance the story but the author probably thinks it's too early (wants to write more volumes?).
The sentient being in ByakuShiki's core, why Ichika can pilot an IS, Ichika being contacted by Squall of Phantom Task, Madoka and why she looks just like Chifuyu, the secret of rank S aptitude which will probably lead to exposing some secrets of IS and Chifuyu, Tabane's relation to Houki/Chifuyu/Phantom Task. why Tabane's training Houki and why she said that Houki is strong like in the past etc. I just think of it that we are currently in a training arc. Can't exactly start the fight with the enemy organization when even the Academy's strongest student (Tatenashi) is having a hard time versus one of PT's members. A little funny though, it's not Ichika that seems to be getting better but the girls (Cecilia's flexible, all the powerups that Houki got). When Chifuyu starts getting involved or the main characters start reaching a level where they can believably put up a good fight, the plot will probably move. And on a personal note since we seem to be talking about the comparison to Index, I got into the Index series when volume 20 was released so I'm probably half-expecting IS to match the intensity of its World War 3 arc (which I know is an incredibly unfair expectation). |
2011-05-03, 00:11 | Link #1142 | |
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though if you read a lot of epic stories, I thought it was obvious that he was preparing the stage, with new characters and concepts and groups and details of the mechanics of the world, though as to what it would be would be a question mark at that point in time. I used to be a dungeon master for D&D, and that's how I set the stage for a 2-year campaign. |
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2011-05-03, 00:34 | Link #1143 | |
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There are some interesting foreshadows in IS, though still early. Chifuyu may NOT have an IS anymore. Ichika dreamed of TWO IS characters in his injured slumber. Could it be....? The premise of IS is quite interesting. The invention of IS relegated the entire modern army. The female only(?) activation of IS empowered the women, who are less aggressive and more diplomatic than men. The dispersion of IS cores ensures global balance of power. Put together this sounds like a mad scientist's scheme for world peace, or an evil organization's plot for new world order. Perhaps both. Perhaps they're working together, for now. IS is that it is (That's a mouthful) an unapologetic excuse for a harem story. It requires major suspension of believes. The biggest one, to me, is that if a technology revolutionized warfare, how can its pilots be permitted to live in an open society, without constant security scrutiny, have privacy, and susceptible to assassination attempts. In EVA where the enemies aren't even human, the pilots are tailed head to toe. IS..... never mind. Just shut off all extraneous processes in your brain and enjoy the harem antics. |
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Cecilia well, it's a teenage girl falling in love - that by itself explains a lot of things (in anime/manga/LNs anyway...). Quote:
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Basically, his trick is probably limited to Ignition Boost into range and start stabbing/slashing - not like he can use his sword into some kind of barrier-piercing beam, eg F/SN Excalibur style... |
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2011-05-03, 01:25 | Link #1145 | |
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2011-05-03, 01:47 | Link #1146 | ||||
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Agreed completely. The imouto-san is still believable, but the onee-chan was just so awkward that it feels out of place. Quote:
Not to mention he now has Setsura. Use Setsura first while looking for a full opening before attacking with Yukihira dang it! And use the skill you have learned to evade enemy attack instead of taking them and reducing your shield energy unless you're almost completely certain you'll hit them. It's tiring seeing him not have enough energy all the time from recklessly using Yukihira or getting hit. It's very understandable for the first few battle, but to do it all the time? That's just stupid. Quote:
I agree about the story is like the story of some random bloke's daily life, and about the lack of effort in tracking the bad guy although it's been implied here and there that Phantom Task is being tracked after vol 5's incident, but there's no way Ichika can be sent for some action outside the IS academy, considering the rights for his IS citizenship is still being debated(stated in vol 6). Unless a country specifically request for it, I doubt IS academy would sent him into action outside the school since they do still want to keep their independence, not to mention he doesn't have the skill yet to be sent on a serious mission unless it's extremely urgent like in vol 3. Once words got out he got sent for action outside the academy's jurisdiction, the academy will lose its status as a mere school and academy and get treated as a small political district like a certain academy city. We're not talking about some peace-keeping organization when talking about IS academy here, just a normal academy that deals with IS training and happened to be independent. Last edited by kuroishinigami; 2011-05-03 at 02:01. |
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2011-05-03, 02:52 | Link #1147 |
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IS citizenship, huh. So it has full sovereign nation status, not just some kind of treaty status (yes, I know this was discussed in the anime, but in international law there is some delineation between a piece of land that countries agree by treaty not to touch and a full sovereign nation, which needs a full government, population, defined territory and de jure indepedence). We've never seen any passport stations when they go shopping though, and they just walk around Japan no issues. I suppose they get Japan-visas or temporary residency when at IS academy. (edit) The issue here is that under international law, if you don't have a defined border (it could be a disputed border), you technically don't qualify as a country. Technically there's a dozen ways to get around this, but it is a bit strange.
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2011-05-03, 02:55 | Link #1148 | |
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2011-05-03, 04:37 | Link #1149 | |
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2011-05-03, 04:50 | Link #1150 |
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These zesty hating will only make others discouraged to discuss the novel you know. Yes, I hate some aspects of IS too, but lets don't be too vocal about them from now on, aye?. Keep expecting the worst and you will never find sunshine :P Spoiler for Fun facts, if you need something to discuss that is:
PS I feel so out of place because I don't read Index @_@, brb looking for avenir PPS You guys so tsundere....See you guys next volume
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2011-05-03, 06:52 | Link #1154 | |
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Not only that, in To aru, Touma's weapon is his right hand, which he can easily bring everywhere with him. In here, Ichika's weapon is a highly classified high-tech weapon. He will definitely get caught and be reprimanded heavily(probably expelled from academy) should he join an operation outside the school. It's just like if Touma decide to steal an Academy City's jet for helping Index in England. There's no way he can do that easily and not facing any consequences at all. And by IS citizenship, I meant which country Byaku Shiki belongs too(which also means which country will take Ichika as representative candidate). The Japanese develops Byaku Shiki, but they don't own Byaku Shiki yet, and the country who get Byaku Shiki basically get the chance to investigate Tabane's personal creation. About why the enemy attacks Ichika, you have to understand that there's only 2 vol so far where the "would be" main enemy attacks Ichika. The other 2, he gets attacked by Tabane's creation just so Tabane can get data(not sure what's for, Tabane's like the Aleister Crowley of Index). The rest is either personal battle or a unit gone awry and Ichika unfortunately has to face it. It's still early to reveal the main reason for attacking Ichika, and I give the author the benefit of doubt in this matter. We also doesn't know why Touma get involved in Aleister's plan even after 23 volumes of story right? You keep comparing IS to To aru, but that's not a fair comparison, they're in a completely different genre, not to mention the difference in targeted audience. It's like comparing a highschool story with a little bit of battle like Medaka Box with a battle story that the main character just happened to be in high school like Bleach. Of course the battle story like Bleach will have more chance to expand the lore, because the character keep skipping class just to join the adventure and adding to finding out the world's lore. On the other hand, for the highschool story such as IS and Medaka Box, the students still do their students duty, and just happened to get dragged into battle inside that happened inside the school. There's less chance to expand the lore when the main character mostly spend his time in school, just like how a normal student should be. Sometimes you have to wonder, how can Touma not get expelled when he spend more time skipping class to go everywhere to save the world than staying there just like a normal student. He barely do any student duties such as learning and attending class. If you want to compare IS, it's better to compare it to story that have highschool as the main setting such as Ichiban Daimaou or Kampfer. |
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2011-05-03, 06:55 | Link #1155 |
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Let me make this clear first, in case someone decides to point the finger at me. When I compared IS to TAMnI, what I compared is 'how long did it take for the story to develop', not the story itself, so I'm out.
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2011-05-03, 07:07 | Link #1156 | |
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2011-05-03, 07:13 | Link #1157 |
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Soo my guess is that in volume 8 will probably be going to the cultural festival with ran and probably the girls will find out and all of them will follow ichika.second possibility is we will find out why tabane keeps making these droids since this is the second time the author used the same pattern from last time ==.MOST probably there will be more harem service with sarashiki siblings joining the lunch table XD
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2011-05-03, 07:16 | Link #1158 | |
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culture fest -> going with ran -> harem finds out -> harem antics -> culture fest -> enemy interruption -> fight -> save the day -> harem antics did i basically spoil volume 8? we'll see
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2011-05-03, 07:24 | Link #1159 |
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well we cant blame the author for extending the harem antics since the anime is selling a little bit too good and money comes first before anything else ==.i hope he picks up some weird ideas though like charlotte father comes and bring her back to france or maybe make a Phantom task member to join the academy.....
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2011-05-03, 07:28 | Link #1160 | |
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and that, sir, is a very good idea
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