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Triple_R · 2012-08-09, 02:22

A lot of this will depend on how well-organized and in-synch with each other the Saki faction voters are.

If the Saki faction voters don't attempt anything like sniping, or clear breaks to stronger Saki girls in Saki vs. Saki vs. non-Saki matches, then yeah, the sheer numbers of the Saki faction could drop nastily after a round or two.

OTOH, if they play their cards right, they're pretty much unbeatable. Seriously, they are. With this many "cards" on "the field of battle", they have so many different strategic options that it's amazing.

Whether or not a Saki girl wins it all will probably depend on how good a job Saki faction voters do of "playing" J-SaiMoe. And how many Saki girls make it to the quarterfinals will similarly depend on how well they "play" J-SaiMoe.

ahelo · 2012-08-09, 04:48

I'll eat cardboard though if a Saki character wins. I'm betting on double semifinals then shutout for the finals.

Triple_R · 2012-08-09, 09:47

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Originally Posted by ahelo

I'll eat cardboard though if a Saki character wins. I'm betting on double semifinals then shutout for the finals.

I'm not sure why the idea of a Saki girl winning it all shocks you.

Toki is legitimately strong. She can probably "legit beat" almost any other girl in this competition. The few she perhaps can't... Well, that's where sniping could come into play.

Like I wrote before, this will probably come down to how well the Saki faction voters "play" J-SaiMoe. If they don't "play" it at all, and just vote with their heart round after round after round, then yeah, Saki probably won't win it all.

But if they make a conscientious and well-organized effort to snipe the strongest non-Saki girls whenever a good opportunity arises, and to consistently break to the strongest Saki girl in Saki vs. Saki vs. non-Saki matches, well... that could easily be the road to victory for the Saki faction.

Eisdrache · 2012-08-09, 18:54

To be fair if everyone would vote according to their heart these popularity contests would actually be so much better.

ahelo · 2012-08-09, 20:54

^^ I actually agree with what you said.

Kyuu · 2012-08-09, 21:40

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Originally Posted by Eisdrache

To be fair if everyone would vote according to their heart these popularity contests would actually be so much better.

But the thing is: Saimoe is WAR.

timbits · 2012-08-09, 21:43

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Originally Posted by Eisdrache

To be fair if everyone would vote according to their heart these popularity contests would actually be so much better.

That would be pretty boring since we can just look at votes from one round and then instantly know who's going to win. Because saimoe is determined by votes, the strength of a particular character is pretty consistent, and without cheaters it just wouldn't be that much fun.

ahelo · 2012-08-09, 22:03

^^Oh wait I also agree with what you said.

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I'm not sure why the idea of a Saki girl winning it all shocks you.

It's not really shocking but rather I just don't see it that they'll be winning it all. I mean overdoing it in the first prelims is almost never a good thing. The Haruhi faction was overwhelmingly strong in the prelims of 2006 but only Nagato managed to reach QFs (though technically that's just luck of the draw). HnG has been at it since 2007 and Nagi even went to the Finals twice yet they've never won anything. Hinagiku is almost always the bet each year to win and she always overperforms in the prelims but she always falls short. Mio was the favorite to win it Pre-2009 but lol she got sniped. Homura was gone by Round 1. Saki was the scariest in both 2009 and 2010 but no win.

I stress ALMOST though since there's a lot of exceptions to this. Biggest example is last year's Puella Magi blowout. 2008's a dark era cus everything played out ala ISML. The dolls and the White Devil will always be legends. The only way I see the Saki faction producing a winner is by being part of the exception and in line of what you said, I think it's only Toki who has that.

BaKaBaKaOtaKu · 2012-08-10, 04:36

Here's to hoping no more Biribiri-cheaters in this competition. They ruined last year so lol, gtfo cheaters.

Eisdrache · 2012-08-10, 12:56

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Originally Posted by timbits

That would be pretty boring since we can just look at votes from one round and then instantly know who's going to win. Because saimoe is determined by votes, the strength of a particular character is pretty consistent, and without cheaters it just wouldn't be that much fun.

???

Just because someone voted for character A in the first round doesn't mean he would vote for her in the upcoming rounds as well.

timbits · 2012-08-10, 13:01

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Originally Posted by Eisdrache

???

Just because someone voted for character A in the first round doesn't mean he would vote for her in the upcoming rounds as well.

Character support is pretty consistent even considering different opponents, enough that the result of the match is usually what the stats suggest. I refer you to ISML for this phenomenon.

Eisdrache · 2012-08-10, 13:38

Wait are we still talking about voting by heart?

And we all know that ISML is trololol bad. /me runs from Crisu

Kyuu · 2012-08-10, 13:46

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Originally Posted by Eisdrache

And we all know that ISML is trololol bad. /me runs from Crisu

I will be forever butthurt regarding Kanade...

Ithekro · 2012-08-10, 14:08

There are always exceptions and absolutes in moe. While a character might hold a pattern of winning, they might run into that one character that is the exception for a large enough base of her following and then lose.

wontaek · 2012-08-11, 10:58

It just isn't Saimoe without Consumption of some Cardboards, heh? I wonder if we get a chance to use Yuno-Terminator joke this year.

BaKaBaKaOtaKu · 2012-08-13, 05:20

Akarin and Mugi are my top choices. Hope they do good.

Ichuki · 2012-08-13, 10:35

Picks- Reika and Nanako
Predictions- Reika, Huang, Saki

broken270 · 2012-08-13, 10:41

And so, the madness begins.

Would be picks: Himari, Miya, Raika
Prediction: Saki, Huang, Cecilia

hinakatbklyn · 2012-08-13, 11:00

Supporting vs. Predictions

A01: Maho < Saki
A05: Huang (Both pick and prediction)
A09: Raika < Cecilia

Aya Reiko · 2012-08-13, 11:03

It begins

A01:
高倉陽毬＠輪るピングドラム (Takakura Himari @ Mawaru-Penguindrum)
堂島菜々子＠Persona4 the ANIMATION (Doujima Nanako @ Persona 4: The Animation)
三沢真帆＠ロウきゅーぶ! (Misawa Maho @ Ro-Kyu-Bu!)
宮永咲＠咲-Saki- 阿知賀編 episode of side-A (Miyanaga Saki @ Saki: Achiga-hen - Episode of Side-A)

A05:
橘美也＠アマガミSS+ plus (Tachibana Miya @ Amagami SS+ plus)
凰鈴音＠IS -インフィニット・ストラトス- アンコール恋に焦がれる六重奏 (Huang Lingyin @ IS - Infinite Stratos Encore: Koi ni Kogareru Sextet)
伊波まひる＠WORKING'!! (Inami Mahiru @ Working'!!)

A09:
セシリア・オルコット＠IS -インフィニット・ストラトス- アンコール恋に焦がれる六重奏 (Cecilia Alcott @ IS - Infinite Stratos Encore: Koi ni Kogareru Sextet)
織田莱香（らいか）＠パパのいうことを聞きなさい! (Oda Raika @ Papa no Iu Koto o Kikinasai!)
青木れいか（キュアビューティ）＠スマイルプリキュア! (Aoki Reika (Cure Beauty) @ Smile Pretty Cure!)

2012-08-09, 02:22	Link #541
Triple_R Senior Member Author Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Newfoundland, Canada Age: 42	A lot of this will depend on how well-organized and in-synch with each other the Saki faction voters are. If the Saki faction voters don't attempt anything like sniping, or clear breaks to stronger Saki girls in Saki vs. Saki vs. non-Saki matches, then yeah, the sheer numbers of the Saki faction could drop nastily after a round or two. OTOH, if they play their cards right, they're pretty much unbeatable. Seriously, they are. With this many "cards" on "the field of battle", they have so many different strategic options that it's amazing. Whether or not a Saki girl wins it all will probably depend on how good a job Saki faction voters do of "playing" J-SaiMoe. And how many Saki girls make it to the quarterfinals will similarly depend on how well they "play" J-SaiMoe. __________________

2012-08-09, 04:48	Link #542
ahelo Criminal Unrequitor Graphic Designer Join Date: Jul 2010	I'll eat cardboard though if a Saki character wins. I'm betting on double semifinals then shutout for the finals. __________________ Traveler on Revenge / Ahelo Sigs / Saimoe Report! Signature by ganbaru

2012-08-09, 20:54	Link #545
ahelo Criminal Unrequitor Graphic Designer Join Date: Jul 2010	^^ I actually agree with what you said. __________________ Traveler on Revenge / Ahelo Sigs / Saimoe Report! Signature by ganbaru

2012-08-10, 04:36	Link #549
BaKaBaKaOtaKu Stupidity is Bliss. Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: In Hancock's Heart	Here's to hoping no more Biribiri-cheaters in this competition. They ruined last year so lol, gtfo cheaters. __________________ Faberry Quinn and Rachel

2012-08-10, 14:08	Link #554
Ithekro Gamilas Falls Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Republic of California Age: 46	There are always exceptions and absolutes in moe. While a character might hold a pattern of winning, they might run into that one character that is the exception for a large enough base of her following and then lose. __________________

2012-08-09, 18:54	Link #544
Eisdrache Part-time misanthrope Join Date: Mar 2007	To be fair if everyone would vote according to their heart these popularity contests would actually be so much better.

2012-08-10, 13:38	Link #552
Eisdrache Part-time misanthrope Join Date: Mar 2007	Wait are we still talking about voting by heart? And we all know that ISML is trololol bad. /me runs from Crisu

2012-08-11, 10:58	Link #555
wontaek Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Planet Earth Age: 54	It just isn't Saimoe without Consumption of some Cardboards, heh? I wonder if we get a chance to use Yuno-Terminator joke this year. __________________

2012-08-13, 05:20	Link #556
BaKaBaKaOtaKu Stupidity is Bliss. Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: In Hancock's Heart	Akarin and Mugi are my top choices. Hope they do good. __________________ Faberry Quinn and Rachel

2012-08-13, 10:35	Link #557
Ichuki ┌(^o^)┘モリ!┌(^o^)┘モリ! Join Date: Sep 2010	Picks- Reika and Nanako Predictions- Reika, Huang, Saki

2012-08-13, 10:41	Link #558
broken270 Defying gravity Join Date: Jul 2010	And so, the madness begins. Would be picks: Himari, Miya, Raika Prediction: Saki, Huang, Cecilia

2012-08-13, 11:00	Link #559
hinakatbklyn Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009	Supporting vs. Predictions A01: Maho < Saki A05: Huang (Both pick and prediction) A09: Raika < Cecilia __________________

2012-08-13, 11:03	Link #560
Aya Reiko Cutengu Join Date: May 2006 Location: Shameimaru's lap	It begins A01: 高倉陽毬＠輪るピングドラム (Takakura Himari @ Mawaru-Penguindrum) 堂島菜々子＠Persona4 the ANIMATION (Doujima Nanako @ Persona 4: The Animation) 三沢真帆＠ロウきゅーぶ! (Misawa Maho @ Ro-Kyu-Bu!) 宮永咲＠咲-Saki- 阿知賀編 episode of side-A (Miyanaga Saki @ Saki: Achiga-hen - Episode of Side-A) A05: 橘美也＠アマガミSS+ plus (Tachibana Miya @ Amagami SS+ plus) 凰鈴音＠IS -インフィニット・ストラトス- アンコール恋に焦がれる六重奏 (Huang Lingyin @ IS - Infinite Stratos Encore: Koi ni Kogareru Sextet) 伊波まひる＠WORKING'!! (Inami Mahiru @ Working'!!) A09: セシリア・オルコット＠IS -インフィニット・ストラトス- アンコール恋に焦がれる六重奏 (Cecilia Alcott @ IS - Infinite Stratos Encore: Koi ni Kogareru Sextet) 織田莱香（らいか）＠パパのいうことを聞きなさい! (Oda Raika @ Papa no Iu Koto o Kikinasai!) 青木れいか（キュアビューティ）＠スマイルプリキュア! (Aoki Reika (Cure Beauty) @ Smile Pretty Cure!) __________________