No there's no siscon here; they just don't care about nudity. Though Hanekawa thought otherwise, since she realized Arararagi had his penis stolen by the censors. Must feel the same way about their tits. I suppose a few shots here and there lingered on for too long and somehow got boring, but whatever.
Karen's arrival was nice as expected. We actually have some kind of antagonist guy which will provide a new type of external conflict. It was a bit silly for Karen to go off by herself, but it seems to run in her family; a delightful but quirky person much like her brother probably.
All and all a good episode that was well paced, and the conversations with Hanekawa and the Shinobu contacting part were the most memorable. It's Maaya Sakamoto's VA'ing that never ceases to amuse me.
8/10
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As I said recently in the ep4 thread, however, I'm not that satisfied with Sakamoto Maaya as Shinobu. Not enough juice there, too dry and normal for me. I love her as a seiyuu, just not here. Maybe I'll appreciate her more as we go on.
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Seems likely to me. Wasn't that the point of Hanekawa emphasizing that he called them "-chan"?
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She just drains power, that's what she did with Black Hanekawa.
I still have yet to read that part in the novel, but I think that Shinobu basically ate Black Hanekawa, who was the embodiment of Hanekawa's stress. Remember that Shinobu eats kaiis.
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No.....he most definitely is a lolicon, siscon and probably into necrophilia as well when you think about Mayoi.
I think Mayoi counts under "imaginary characters", at least according to her story in the guidebook
you guys making such a fuss about 2D incest lol...
animu is serious business
so Mayoi being an "imaginary character" that is an interesting thought if taken out of context... in other words, only Koyomi can interact with her in-universe so weather she is actually a ghost or figment of his guilty imagination does not really make a difference... again in-universe
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so Mayoi being an "imaginary character" that is an interesting thought if taken out of context... in other words, only Koyomi can interact with her in-universe so weather she is actually a ghost or figment of his guilty imagination does not really make a difference... again in-universe
Not true. Hanekawa for one at least can interact with her. We just don't see it that often.
Also, I really really want them to animate the eyeball part. I guess you can't win them all.
BTW, kinda off topic but after 2 years now have anyone made the obvious Araragi=Batman and Hanekawa=Catwomen comparison?
Not true. Hanekawa for one at least can interact with her. We just don't see it that often.
I wasn't serious about it, but for the sake of another imaginary argument... Tsubasa-chan knows so well Koyomi-kun that can even interact with figments of his imagination
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Also, I really really want them to animate the eyeball part. I guess you can't win them all.
BTW, kinda off topic but after 2 years now have anyone made the obvious Araragi=Batman and Hanekawa=Catwomen comparison?
Please don't go there, 'cause Batman/Koyomi=Odyseus and Catwoman/Tsubasa=Circe... which would make perfect sense for any similarities between fictional character according to the hero with the 1000 faces
Karen is lucky that she's not in another world like one certain another character with the similar strong sense of justice, also voiced by Kitamura Eri.
-Even if among the Fire Sisters Karen stands out, Tsukihi is not better. In fact, if you think Tsukihi is easier to deal with, you've fallen in her trap. Even though Karen and Tsukihi are both stupid, Tsukihi is also bright.
-While they were in elementary school, to save Karen from some kind of pinch, Tsukihi jumped down from the rooftop of the school building without hesitation. She fell on the canopy of a truck parked below, with just some broken bones and some scars.
-Araragi, Tsukihi and Karen are used to be half-naked right out of a bath. While going to the living room wearing just a towel, Araragi felt like he was forgetting something important, but thought it was not the case to worry about it. Then Tsukihi mentioned Hanekawa, and he understood what he was forgetting. With that he couldn't comment on Kanbaru anymore. Anyway, he was thinking of sending Tsukihi to his room to get some clothes. In this 21th century there was no way a slapstick development like being suddenly seen naked by a female classmate could happen.
-Araragi regretted how things went with Shinobu, but it was not the best time to talk about that.
-Araragi says he wants to be that kind of enigmatic character that makes people wonders about what he is doing when he is alone, but Tsukihi replies that one who is alone doesn't have people who says that to begin with.
-The three things Araragi understood from the bathtowel incident: 1) there are times when even Hanekawa screams 2) Hanekawa can scream very loudly 3) his parents sleep like a log.
-The room Kaiki was in is a "karaoke box", a club with individual rooms that can be rented with karaoke machines. The room was just described as small (although the adjective means also "narrow").
-Kaiki takes from Karen's purse a total of 4627 yen.
-Araragi would have liked to take Hanekawa home with his bike, but she was fussy about traffic laws. It's not like he wanted Hanekawa to cling from behind!
-Hanekawa adviced Karen to wait for her arrival. She recognized the mistake in failing to predict Karen would have taken action on her own. Araragi is angry at Karen for betraying Hanekawa's trust and making her commit a stupid mistake.
-Karen confronted Kaiki thinking that evil was not strong or stubborn, so if she blamed it directly Kaiki would have apologized.
-When Hanekawa gave Araragi the "ticket", Araragi saw there was nothing written on it, and started thinking that maybe the sense was that the ticket towards the future is always white, and other Trigun references.
-After Araragi threw away the ticket to fondle her breast, Hanekawa proposes a ticket to receive her panties (and be hated for the rest of her life). Araragi says he's holding out until the ticket to receive her skirt, but Hanekawa replies such ticket doesn't exist. Araragi was thinking that if he received her skirt he would have also been able to see her panties, but Hanekawa dodged it.
-Hanekawa was glad that Araragi and Shinobu reconciliated, but she was worried about what happened in the bath while they were together. Another ultramistake by Araragi.
-Araragi says he won't ever call Shinobu with her former name. She is just Shinobu now.
-Araragi says that Oshino wouldn't have saved Karen, and he performs an imitation of him: "I won't help you. You have to save you by yourself, miss". Hanekawa wanted to hear the imitations of the others too.
Senjougahara's imitation: "Oh my, thinking about it, I am wasting time by teaching you how to study. If I converted this loss in money it would be about 200 million yen. Do you get it? It is an amount you will have to live for 200 million years to earn"
Hanekawa understood from this the kind of things Senjougahara tells to Araragi.
Hachikuji's imitation: "P-Please stop, Araragi-san! Don't just touch me in weird places! If appealing to you is not enough I will appeal to a judge!"
Hanekawa: "...What did you do to Mayoi-chan? What did you mean with weird places?"
Another ultramistake.
Araragi: "I...I'm sorry, I stuttered"
H: "what did you really want to say?"
A: "Weird octopuses"
Araragi became a weird man that touches weird octopuses.
Kanbaru's imitation: "As expected from Hanekawa-senpai, a magnificent skill. One cannot but think you are loved by the gods. The likes of me cannot even compare to you... fu fu, as a person born in the same era of Hanekawa-senpai though I have a responsibility to not look away from this reality, looking at you make me want to study"
Hanekawa replied that Kanbaru was polite, but she never said such exaggerated things to her.
It seems Kanbaru only does it for Araragi.
Hanekawa's imitation: "These boobs belong to Araragi. Fondle them as you like"
Hanekawa got angry at him. Her heart throbbed when before Araragi manly tore the ticket.
A: "And to think that if only I didn't say something unnecessary, as a reward for the imitations you might have let me touch your breasts... what a shame"
H: "There was no such reward"
A: "But Hanekawa, if you raise my hopes like this, I will feel repressed and might end up committing a sex crime. Realize that you are the only one who can prevent that"
H: "Please notice quickly that the concept of trying to touch my breast itself already falls within sex crimes"
A: "That's absurd... how can you call love a crime?"
H: "Don't call it love"
A: "Well then, as a compromise at least let me touch your arms"
H: "...? Why the arms?"
A: "I heard the sense of touch of the arms is the same of the breasts"
H: "Ridiculous... that is to say, I think it's not the same"
A: "Eh? Really?"
H: "Yes. At least, when I touch them it doesn't feel the same"
A: "You touch them!? Your breasts!?"
H: "No wait please wait! Don't misunderstand, I'm talking about when I'm taking a bath!"
A: "Inside the bath -- in other words stark naked!?"
H: "One wash her own body, isn't it obvious!?"
A: "Eh!? Hey you what are you doing!? Am I so unreliable, if you told me I would have washed you myself!"
H: "I don't understand your character!"
A confused Hanekawa is supercute.
H:" Well then, let's do this"
A: "Hm? You mean?"
H: "If you pass the entrance exam of the university at the first try then you can touch my breast as much as you like"
A: "You won't fool me. I'll touch them as much as I like, but I will be hated for a lifetime, right?"
H: "Oh no, it will be an evident reaction of joy. I will strike a pose and say "Iyaan, maicchingu!*""
*{a reference to the manga Miss Machiko}
H: "You are progressing well now, but even you will soon reach a plateau in your grades. Then that time comes, I would like to give you some kind of reward"
A: "For real..."
H: "I decided that I will do everything to make you pass the exam of the university you chose. Not just breasts or arms, I will let you do as you like with all my soft spots"
A: "Then could I lick your eyeballs, for example!?"
H: "...Just now I feel like you revealed to have a very peculiar fetish"
A: "Re-Really? Isn't it typical for healthy young men to want to lick a girl's eyeballs?"
H: "I believe that that is the way of thinking of a murderer who left his name to history... but yes, I wouldn't mind"
A: "You wouldn't mind!?"
H: "However you have to choose. Licking my eyeballs, or all my soft spots excluded the eyeballs, which is it?"
The ultimate choice... but for Araragi this question doesn't need any hesitation.
A: "I want to lick your eyeballs!"
H: "...Okay. If you pass the university exam, that is"
Araragi though realized that if Hanekawa had to make that kind of offer his chances of passing the exam are pretty low.
H: "Feel like giving your best?"
A: "I feel crushed..."
Hanekawa laughed. Araragi felt satisfied with just her laughing cheerfully. Anyway he wouldn't have had the courage to do such things even if he passed.
A: "We were talking about boobs, I think"
H: "About Oshino"
A: "I'm sorry, I stuttered"
H: "...That's becoming popular. Even I want to try using it"
-When Hanekawa sits on his bike, Araragi comments that since Hanekawa, like Senjougahara, wears long skirts there was nothing suggestive in that action, but he feels satisfied just in having Hanekawa sit on the saddle of his bike. He realizes he may be a maniac for thinking that, and may actually have peculiar fetishes, although Senjougahara never pointed that out to him.
-Since Karen had slept all the time since after meeting Kaiki, now she can't sleep. Araragi didn't want to wake Tsukihi, so he took Karen to his room.
-When Karen says she was just doing aerobics, Araragi tells her that in the anime ending she can dance alone. Karen replies that if she were to dance she wouldn't stop at the ending, she will continue to dance for 30 minutes.
-Araragi states he doesn't feel a thing from seeing Karen naked, for she is his sister.
-Unlike the anime, in the novel Karen on the bed barely moves her body (she doesn't try to bite him), that's why she has to ask her brother to do everything.
Translation. Aside from what said about kids shoplifting to get the money to bring to Kaiki, when Karen introduces herself "yoi yoi" is not "it is good", but to use the kanji of "good" twice.
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I don't see any bee or anything that could administer the poison into Karen now this can be interesting.
And I don't see why kissing matters much, it's just like giving CPR to a drowning person except she is totally conscious during the process. You know, or else she dies. Do people really want that? But let’s see what Gahara-san has to say about the matter when she found out. He promised her never lie to right?
I didn't read the novel so I don't know about the details, but seriously, legendary toothbrush scene can be any worse than this?
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They cut a long series of gags with Hanekawa.
Spoiler for chapters 13-14-15-16:
-Even if among the Fire Sisters Karen stands out, Tsukihi is not better. In fact, if you think Tsukihi is easier to deal with, you've fallen in her trap. Even though Karen and Tsukihi are both stupid, Tsukihi is also bright.
-While they were in elementary school, to save Karen from some kind of pinch, Tsukihi jumped down from the rooftop of the school building without hesitation. She fell on the canopy of a truck parked below, with just some broken bones and some scars.
-Araragi, Tsukihi and Karen are used to be half-naked right out of a bath. While going to the living room wearing just a towel, Araragi felt like he was forgetting something important, but thought it was not the case to worry about it. Then Tsukihi mentioned Hanekawa, and he understood what he was forgetting. With that he couldn't comment on Kanbaru anymore. Anyway, he was thinking of sending Tsukihi to his room to get some clothes. In this 21th century there was no way a slapstick development like being suddenly seen naked by a female classmate could happen.
-Araragi regretted how things went with Shinobu, but it was not the best time to talk about that.
-Araragi says he wants to be that kind of enigmatic character that makes people wonders about what he is doing when he is alone, but Tsukihi replies that one who is alone doesn't have people who says that to begin with.
-The three things Araragi understood from the bathtowel incident: 1) there are times when even Hanekawa screams 2) Hanekawa can scream very loudly 3) his parents sleep like a log.
-The room Kaiki was in is a "karaoke box", a club with individual rooms that can be rented with karaoke machines. The room was just described as small (although the adjective means also "narrow").
-Kaiki takes from Karen's purse a total of 4627 yen.
-Araragi would have liked to take Hanekawa home with his bike, but she was fussy about traffic laws. It's not like he wanted Hanekawa to cling from behind!
-Hanekawa adviced Karen to wait for her arrival. She recognized the mistake in failing to predict Karen would have taken action on her own. Araragi is angry at Karen for betraying Hanekawa's trust and making her commit a stupid mistake.
-Karen confronted Kaiki thinking that evil was not strong or stubborn, so if she blamed it directly Kaiki would have apologized.
-When Hanekawa gave Araragi the "ticket", Araragi saw there was nothing written on it, and started thinking that maybe the sense was that the ticket towards the future is always white, and other Trigun references.
-After Araragi threw away the ticket to fondle her breast, Hanekawa proposes a ticket to receive her panties (and be hated for the rest of her life). Araragi says he's holding out until the ticket to receive her skirt, but Hanekawa replies such ticket doesn't exist. Araragi was thinking that if he received her skirt he would have also been able to see her panties, but Hanekawa dodged it.
-Hanekawa was glad that Araragi and Shinobu reconciliated, but she was worried about what happened in the bath while they were together. Another ultramistake by Araragi.
-Araragi says he won't ever call Shinobu with her former name. She is just Shinobu now.
-Araragi says that Oshino wouldn't have saved Karen, and he performs an imitation of him: "I won't help you. You have to save you by yourself, miss". Hanekawa wanted to hear the imitations of the others too.
Senjougahara's imitation: "Oh my, thinking about it, I am wasting time by teaching you how to study. If I converted this loss in money it would be about 200 million yen. Do you get it? It is an amount you will have to live for 200 million years to earn"
Hanekawa understood from this the kind of things Senjougahara tells to Araragi.
Hachikuji's imitation: "P-Please stop, Araragi-san! Don't just touch me in weird places! If appealing to you is not enough I will appeal to a judge!"
Hanekawa: "...What did you do to Mayoi-chan? What did you mean with weird places?"
Another ultramistake.
Araragi: "I...I'm sorry, I stuttered"
H: "what did you really want to say?"
A: "Weird octopuses"
Araragi became a weird man that touches weird octopuses.
Kanbaru's imitation: "As expected from Hanekawa-senpai, a magnificent skill. One cannot but think you are loved by the gods. The likes of me cannot even compare to you... fu fu, as a person born in the same era of Hanekawa-senpai though I have a responsibility to not look away from this reality, looking at you make me want to study"
Hanekawa replied that Kanbaru was polite, but she never said such exaggerated things to her.
It seems Kanbaru only does it for Araragi.
Hanekawa's imitation: "These boobs belong to Araragi. Fondle them as you like"
Hanekawa got angry at him. Her heart throbbed when before Araragi manly tore the ticket.
A: "And to think that if only I didn't say something unnecessary, as a reward for the imitations you might have let me touch your breasts... what a shame"
H: "There was no such reward"
A: "But Hanekawa, if you raise my hopes like this, I will feel repressed and might end up committing a sex crime. Realize that you are the only one who can prevent that"
H: "Please notice quickly that the concept of trying to touch my breast itself already falls within sex crimes"
A: "That's absurd... how can you call love a crime?"
H: "Don't call it love"
A: "Well then, as a compromise at least let me touch your arms"
H: "...? Why the arms?"
A: "I heard the sense of touch of the arms is the same of the breasts"
H: "Ridiculous... that is to say, I think it's not the same"
A: "Eh? Really?"
H: "Yes. At least, when I touch them it doesn't feel the same"
A: "You touch them!? Your breasts!?"
H: "No wait please wait! Don't misunderstand, I'm talking about when I'm taking a bath!"
A: "Inside the bath -- in other words stark naked!?"
H: "One wash her own body, isn't it obvious!?"
A: "Eh!? Hey you what are you doing!? Am I so unreliable, if you told me I would have washed you myself!"
H: "I don't understand your character!"
A confused Hanekawa is supercute.
H:" Well then, let's do this"
A: "Hm? You mean?"
H: "If you pass the entrance exam of the university at the first try then you can touch my breast as much as you like"
A: "You won't fool me. I'll touch them as much as I like, but I will be hated for a lifetime, right?"
H: "Oh no, it will be an evident reaction of joy. I will strike a pose and say "Iyaan, maicchingu!*""
*{a reference to the manga Miss Machiko}
H: "You are progressing well now, but even you will soon reach a plateau in your grades. Then that time comes, I would like to give you some kind of reward"
A: "For real..."
H: "I decided that I will do everything to make you pass the exam of the university you chose. Not just breasts or arms, I will let you do as you like with all my soft spots"
A: "Then could I lick your eyeballs, for example!?"
H: "...Just now I feel like you revealed to have a very peculiar fetish"
A: "Re-Really? Isn't it typical for healthy young men to want to lick a girl's eyeballs?"
H: "I believe that that is the way of thinking of a murderer who left his name to history... but yes, I wouldn't mind"
A: "You wouldn't mind!?"
H: "However you have to choose. Licking my eyeballs, or all my soft spots excluded the eyeballs, which is it?"
The ultimate choice... but for Araragi this question doesn't need any hesitation.
A: "I want to lick your eyeballs!"
H: "...Okay. If you pass the university exam, that is"
Araragi though realized that if Hanekawa had to make that kind of offer his chances of passing the exam are pretty low.
H: "Feel like giving your best?"
A: "I feel crushed..."
Hanekawa laughed. Araragi felt satisfied with just her laughing cheerfully. Anyway he wouldn't have had the courage to do such things even if he passed.
A: "We were talking about boobs, I think"
H: "About Oshino"
A: "I'm sorry, I stuttered"
H: "...That's becoming popular. Even I want to try using it"
-When Hanekawa sits on his bike, Araragi comments that since Hanekawa, like Senjougahara, wears long skirts there was nothing suggestive in that action, but he feels satisfied just in having Hanekawa sit on the saddle of his bike. He realizes he may be a maniac for thinking that, and may actually have peculiar fetishes, although Senjougahara never pointed that out to him.
-Since Karen had slept all the time since after meeting Kaiki, now she can't sleep. Araragi didn't want to wake Tsukihi, so he took Karen to his room.
-When Karen says she was just doing aerobics, Araragi tells her that in the anime ending she can dance alone. Karen replies that if she were to dance she wouldn't stop at the ending, she will continue to dance for 30 minutes.
-Araragi states he doesn't feel a thing from seeing Karen naked, for she is his sister.
-Unlike the anime, in the novel Karen on the bed barely moves her body (she doesn't try to bite him), that's why she has to ask her brother to do everything.
Translation. Aside from what said about kids shoplifting to get the money to bring to Kaiki, when Karen introduces herself "yoi yoi" is not "it is good", but to use the kanji of "good" twice.
Thanks again for the uncovered novel materials, now I would like to see Hanekawa's face while having that conversation.
Amen to that. With the exception of the coupon troll, interaction with Hanekawa is so painfully reasonable that it exudes the excitement of reading the local phone book: Dull and boring. I'll take 1 minute of Senjougahara over 1 hour of Hanekawa any day, without having to think.
If it weren't for Senjougahara's fear of Hanekawa, I don't understand what the point of her character is at all.
Here's yet another reminder folks, please don't start arguments with other people just because you disagree with them. A lot of posts have been removed and from here on out, warnings and infractions will be handed out to those that decides to push this further.
I'm still sad they left out the impression gag.
Brilliant episode though; The music playing in Kaiki's fortress of epilepsy fit the moment well .
You also need to remember that eastern ideals are different. The line between siscon and caring brother isn't quite as clearly defined. The same is true of pedophilia. Go and watch Yosuga no Sora if your still confused.
You also need to remember that eastern ideals are different. The line between siscon and caring brother isn't quite as clearly defined.
No wait, don't let anime fool you. Incest is incest in every culture Karen couldn't move, so it is only natural another person would have had to attend to her.
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