Little Busters ~Refrain~ - Episode 6 Discussion / Poll

[Triple_R]

Spoiler for Spoiler for scene cut discussion above:

It's a shame that these scenes didn't make it in, because I think it would have made it that much more clear why Kyousuke did what he did in this episode.

Rin clearly has a lot of growing up that she has to do, and she too easily falls into a pattern of totally relying on others.

[Kanon]

Originally Posted by Randrak42

For those wondering, Gohan78 is right:

Spoiler for What the anime cut out from the VN:

They really did just cut out weeks from the VN. Like he said, they went to her grandfather's house and lived there together for weeks.
Two things to note however:

- While Riki worked his butt off to support and take care of Rin...she did nearly nothing the whole time. Riki got himself a job farming (until he was fired as the lady employing him worried about his well being due to narcolepsy) and then went out fishing to feed everyone (which was hard since sometimes he wasn't even able to catch anything) since Riki's guardian blocked his bank account.
Rin on the other hand spent the day doing nothing and gathering cats, which in turn meant that every time Riki came back he'd have even more mouths to feed (a point he made in the VN). Rin did do her laundry but it was even stated that she only did it because it would be embarrassing for Riki to wash her underwear.
All in all, while the whole route was actually kind of sweet in some way, with them living together AND it did show how strong Riki had become, since he was able to last so long without money........this route also showed how useless and protected Rin was. It always bugged me that while Riki was killing himself working every day, she just stayed in playing with more and more cats and Riki really didn't do much about it, he just accepted it. Rin's route showed very well just how weak Rin is and how lost she'd be on her own.

- The end of the episode rushed a very important part, the very end of Rin's route.
It showed the people knocking on their door and calling out but it didn't show what happened next very well. The lights went out, it was dark and impossible to see anything clearly, men started rushing the house and grabbing the two, Riki lost his grasp on Rin and didn't know where she was...
Basically, it was a super desperate and dark scene, the screen went all black and all you could hear was the voices. This is a very important scene and I feel they rushed this part a little too much.

Spoiler:

I'm kinda glad they cut that out because that would have made me seriously dislike Rin. This leads me to believe Kyousuke is totally right. Rin is way too sheltered, he has no choice but to resort to extreme methods to make her come out of her shell. He can't half-ass this.

[Reckoner]

While some parts of the cut material would have been nice to see, I don't think it would've aided the cause of the story too much. The main point of this is just that Riki realizes he was too weak to take care of Rin on his own, and that both of them were basically too childish to handle the situation. Essentially this is covered by what was shown. I think it's a much better idea that they did CHEAP TRICKS properly and gave extended time to Refrain under the time constraints.

Kyousuke's full intentions are spoiler area, and no the cut material doesn't explain his point of view here. I think it's already been made apparent enough that Rin is too weak.

[Archon_Wing]

Damn Kyosuke did something that was most likely really low if my feeling is correct. Something crueler than bunker rushing someone three times in a row. He sure is turning into quite the machiavellian type here.

[DmonHiro]

Originally Posted by Kanon

Spoiler:

I'm kinda glad they cut that out because that would have made me seriously dislike Rin. This leads me to believe Kyousuke is totally right. Rin is way too sheltered, he has no choice but to resort to extreme methods to make her come out of her shell. He can't half-ass this.

He IS right. That's what makes it so annoying. I would want to belt him one in the face, but at the same time, Rin really CAN'T function on her own. They way he's doing it though, is questionable at best. It might come back to bite him in the ass. And he's clearly hurting too. Look at his hand when he grabs Riki, right before telling him he's bring Rin back for the weekend.

[Dark Faith]

Originally Posted by Randrak42

For those wondering, Gohan78 is right:

Spoiler for What the anime cut out from the VN:

They really did just cut out weeks from the VN. Like he said, they went to her grandfather's house and lived there together for weeks.
Two things to note however:

- While Riki worked his butt off to support and take care of Rin...she did nearly nothing the whole time. Riki got himself a job farming (until he was fired as the lady employing him worried about his well being due to narcolepsy) and then went out fishing to feed everyone (which was hard since sometimes he wasn't even able to catch anything) since Riki's guardian blocked his bank account.
Rin on the other hand spent the day doing nothing and gathering cats, which in turn meant that every time Riki came back he'd have even more mouths to feed (a point he made in the VN). Rin did do her laundry but it was even stated that she only did it because it would be embarrassing for Riki to wash her underwear.
All in all, while the whole route was actually kind of sweet in some way, with them living together AND it did show how strong Riki had become, since he was able to last so long without money........this route also showed how useless and protected Rin was. It always bugged me that while Riki was killing himself working every day, she just stayed in playing with more and more cats and Riki really didn't do much about it, he just accepted it. Rin's route showed very well just how weak Rin is and how lost she'd be on her own.

- The end of the episode rushed a very important part, the very end of Rin's route.
It showed the people knocking on their door and calling out but it didn't show what happened next very well. The lights went out, it was dark and impossible to see anything clearly, men started rushing the house and grabbing the two, Riki lost his grasp on Rin and didn't know where she was...
Basically, it was a super desperate and dark scene, the screen went all black and all you could hear was the voices. This is a very important scene and I feel they rushed this part a little too much.

I've only just watched this episode... and while I think that as a whole the episode was pretty good, I was sad that they left out so much of Riki&Rin's life together after they ran away.
Text in spoiler tags already says it all, so I've got nothing new to add.

Spoiler:

Other than.. "A World Where Nothing Happened" being missing
Maybe the next episode?...I should go watch that now

[Marcus H.]

Oh god, that CHEAP TRICKS scene made me leave my chair and consider punching Kyousuke in the face. Hell, even my sleeves are rolled up right now.

GG Kyousuke, you sly mofo.

[lilfrizz415]

Spoiler:

why did kengo go off on Kyouske? what was the cheap trick? What did the girl with the eye patch from last season have to do with it?

im confused

[Kanon]

Originally Posted by lilfrizz415

Spoiler:

why did kengo go off on Kyouske? what was the cheap trick? What did the girl with the eye patch from last season have to do with it?

im confused

The cheap trick was making that girl appear right when Kengo was about to bat. That made him lose his concentration and he lost.

[Leo_Otaku]

Originally Posted by lilfrizz415

Spoiler:

why did kengo go off on Kyouske? what was the cheap trick? What did the girl with the eye patch from last season have to do with it?

im confused

Also depends on if you have seen everything there is something else important about that scene too. But wait until you have finished to find out.