2009-09-29, 11:12 | Link #5681 | |
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The moment when he jumped to Wufei's saber ranked as number 2 in my WTF Gundam Moments. Anyway, OOT, yeah, Zero Requiem should be clearer...
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2009-09-29, 13:52 | Link #5682 | |
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2009-09-30, 12:31 | Link #5683 | |
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Lelouch embraces the use of necessary evil, but he puts emphasis on the knowledge that it is still very much evil...at least until the last arc. |
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2009-09-30, 12:42 | Link #5686 | |
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i am Lrrr ruler of the planet Omicron Persei 8 as for the mostly there WAS the matter of shnizel that needed dealing with an in THAT part, some evil was necessary its the rest that bothers me
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2009-09-30, 13:23 | Link #5687 | |
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2. Make more FLEIJA 3. Profit. Damocles would need some considerably menacing upgrades before anyone facing it would be justified in doing what Lelouch did. I have actually been thinking over some things that could be done to make Damocles a more self-contained powerhouse. 1. More points on the fortress that can fire FLEIJA that do not have a long reload time. 2. A guided means of firing the FLEIJA, namely advanced missles that could breach most conventional missle defense systems. 3. The shield itself should be able to use the Albion's feather shot. 4. An advanced long range Gefjun based device to neutralize any hostile sakuradite powered craft or weapon that approaches it, thus making the copy-FLEIJA-and-shoot-Schneizel-down-strategy useless. 5. More conventional weapons on the fortress. 6. An elite force of KMF pilots inside. |
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2009-09-30, 13:38 | Link #5688 |
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the problem lies with the shield system
as long as its up you cant fire anything out of it so conventional weapons arent powerful enough to justify dropping the shields for the blaze luminus shard launcher is a good idea though, i just wonder if its actually a practical option for something that big as for the aces, assuming that the whole point of the damocles is that no one would dare try to attack it, whats the point of having your own soldiers out fighting (they are in the way of your flejia as for internal defense, its still contingent on the idea that someone would actually get past the shield which was not likely a consideration during its design as for the evil done during that arc, i agree with the three step program you mentioned using a flejia to destroy it is much more effective way to end it rather then first dragging the entire world into a war for no reason
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When an enemy force is still at fairly long range they could be used to conserve FLEIJA, or in the event the enemy was using a device that could neutralize sakuradite technology themselves. Beyond that, they would be a defensive measure in case something got through the shield. Quote:
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And with the Gefjun wave idea, this would be a much much more difficult srtategy to pull off. In any case, not all the ideas would have to be used. Just a few to make the Damocles' ability to defend itself and get the FLEIJA to actually reach their targets more probable. |
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2009-09-30, 14:20 | Link #5690 |
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i think that he didnt really think there would be any way for anyone else to get a flejia
he IS the only one who makes them and lelouch in general could have solved everything by simply launching a sneak attack against shnizel in cambodia while the damocles was not yet active the albion would be able to zoom past any defense they have in place and destroy either the shield generators or float units before it has a chance to take off
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2009-09-30, 14:35 | Link #5691 | ||
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In any case, there would always be the risk that the technology could be rediscovered by others, even if they didn't have access to Nina. Quote:
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2009-10-01, 04:08 | Link #5694 | |
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On the living room, you know we got the standard issue 200 inch PLASMA TV, you know how we DO!!! I gotta look over the world and shit, you know what I'm talking about? Cause if some bitches gonna go up on me and rebel and shit, I gotta FLEIJA their ass, you know what I'm saying?? Yea, keep it pimpin yo. Continue on your own.
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2009-10-02, 00:43 | Link #5695 |
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Hi! I recently finished Code Geass, and am impressed with it more than Death Note. Lelouch is flawed. Yes, he did kill many, but it was also a part of his vulnerability. Lelouch is thus realistic, unlike Superman, or such, who just seems to come and save the day, look good, and is almost invulnerable. Lelouch has weaknesses. Unlike Kallen, or Suzaku, he is physically weak. This is a certain aspect many can relate to.
So, is he a hero? Yes and no. Lelouch is a hero, in that he was consistent in his efforts. He did improve things for many. He did rebel against Britannia, and his father. He did stand against Social Darwinism. But this all came at many costs. Cost of lives, lies, deception, and friendship. Lelouch who may have possibly been a sociopath towards strangers changed little by little. Nunally changed him by motivating him, Shirley changed him by showing trust; Rolo changed him by showing loyalty towards a companion, etc. He learned his lessons, even if they were a bit late. Lelouch could not have accomplished a lot, if he cared about enemy knightframe pilot’s lives, and focusing on the individual’s in the war. His weakness was not his evil deeds, but his good ones. He could have killed off achieved his goals much faster, had he not been hesitant to kill his loved ones. Unlike Light, Lelouch had that barrier, and so could not succeed at all his goals. He did learn valuable lessons, which have shaped him. Lelouch was on the verge of giving up certain times, and being caught, but it was his closed ones that helped him. In the end, he did destroy his father, and became the emperor, but he also became a tyrant. Kind of like the real world, where a good person becomes a leader, but then slowly gets corrupted. Instead he chose to be true to himself and make the situation black and white instead of living in the shades of gray, where people picked sides, and waged wars. He made himself evil (to the world), to make Zero the messiah. This was a simple action, which everyone can understand. He may have killed many, but in the end, he made the possibly of a better future for everyone, which cost him his life. Lelouch could have lived as a really intelligent emperor, and try to improve his reputation, but there would always be someone who disagreed. To eliminate that possibility, he let Suzaku take over, and both friends paid dearly. One lost his respect, and the other lost his identity, for the world. This is what makes it more meaningful, than Death Note. |
2009-10-02, 04:09 | Link #5696 | |
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Nice analysis of Lulu there. Pretty much accurate.
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2009-10-02, 10:15 | Link #5697 | |
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Like Paladin said, nice analysis. I like to proclaim him as God sometimes, because like you said, he can make himself a saint, he can turn evil. But we'll leave that at an in my personal opinion level.
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2009-10-02, 10:20 | Link #5698 |
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i never did get how that makes him god in your eyes
anyone could choose to act as a prick or a saint there is nothing special about lelouch's ability to act this way most people however would stick to one option rather then the other out of their personal beliefs lelouch being able to switch in between as he likes doesnt so much make him special as it makes him inconsistent
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2009-10-02, 10:26 | Link #5699 | |
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I don't know why exactly you need to set this straight so much.. it's just a personal opinion, and I've explained why I think so once. So... if you still don't see why, I can do nothing much.
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