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i don't think tobi is obito, since when kakashi asked where he got the eye, he said he got it at the bridge, not that he was born it with although technically the eye did activate at the bridge, so it -could- work both ways guess we haev to wait for the mask to come off personally i'm still voting that tobi is sasuke from a grim and bleak future
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renaming the villian to trollbi, the trolling bijuu
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To go along with that, maybe the dimension he teleports to is actually the future.... |
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2012-08-13, 09:55 | Link #66 |
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Those eaters didn't seem to mind Sasuke, Karin, Danzou bodyguards and Nagato's body though.
More than those arbitrary 5 minutes you got to wonder why Tobi can't keep hold of people when it's only a part of his body that change dimension. |
2012-08-13, 10:12 | Link #67 | |
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Which why he can't attack and phase at the same time. |
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2012-08-13, 10:18 | Link #68 | |
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2012-08-13, 15:16 | Link #70 | |
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If he sends to another dimension only part of his body then why can't he use the parts that are in this dimension? If part of his body is elsewhere why doesn't the blood just leak out of it What is this mathematical precision of being able to send dynamically overlapping body parts into another dimension? Why are the relative coordinates of that other dimension the same as this one, that is the stuff that Kakashi sent over appeared at the same relative places that it was in this world (relative to Tobi's position). And if so how can Tobi teleport to other places in almost zero time if he is using the same jutsu and in his own dimension the relative distance is the same then it should take him the same long time. Unless when going to his dimension he can also displace himself to another coordinate. Or a mathematically more funny explanation is that he can scale his dimension's coordinate system so that 100 miles in our world becomes 10 meters in his and then he can just make a few steps, then scale back the world and then reappear here So let's just say it's pure magic BTW Tobi is lucky that he was not hanging out in his secret dimension when Kakashi sent the exploding Deidara-clone there Kakashi wouldn't even know that he saved the world accidentally |
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2012-08-13, 15:18 | Link #71 |
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Maybe he can only teleport one person at a time, meaning that if he only leaves his hand materialized he has to concentrate on keeping the other part of his body intangible. Perhaps if he tries to suck in someone while only his hand is tangible, it might come off.
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2012-08-13, 17:08 | Link #72 |
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If the "Kamui dimension" for lack of a better term, is a parallel dimension, it's quite logical to assume that the location in that dimension corresponds to the same location in the normal dimension.
..I think. I'm not 100% sure of this I'd re-read the chapter with the kunai. |
2012-08-13, 17:14 | Link #73 |
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I don't think Tobi being Obito would be a boring outcome. Predictable and maybe cliche, yes, but not necessarily boring. I'm really liking the Tobi/Kakashi exchanges right now, which sound a lot like Tobi is speaking from Obito's viewpoint. So I would like it if Tobi's character turns out to be at least in-part Obito. Tobi should Edo Tensei Rin, just to really screw with Kakashi's head.
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2012-08-13, 18:06 | Link #74 |
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tobi's probably one of the greatest actor's in the shinobi world, it's hard toimagine that 4 years ago, he was the goofy, deidara-sempai!!! breakout character of akatsuki
now he's all brooding... and 'i don't want to be anyone' and 'words from someone like you mean NOTHING' i haven't seen this much change since gaara... or psycho sasuke
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2012-08-13, 20:57 | Link #75 |
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All this time, I just realized that having Obito's eye wouldn't necessarily mean that Tobi is Obito, just as a Shroedinger's paradox could possibly leave Kakashi to be Obito himself with the same eye (Highly unlikely, probably improbable, but for the point of theoretical argument, just let me roll with it)...But I'm also not really convinced that Tobi is Obito, even with the implication the memories are supposed to serve, since Tobi had intimate knowledge to pass for a Madara persona, and we now know Tobi isn't Madara either...Could even just be chalked up to psychological warfare, using whatever facts known about Kakashi against him to mentally unnerve him, since it's not like Kakashi's life after that incident was a secret...
Whereas people like Naruto and Sasuke have their symbolic connections to the Sage of Six Path's two sons, I almost feel cynical enough to believe that in the end with all personas stripped away, Tobi really should be, for all practical reasons, nobody...Just like he said; No connections to any pre-existing people, not even the identity of a pre-existing person, nothing...Might undermine his motives and knock him down a slight notch in the threatening level, but of all the lies Tobi went on in the past, this truth would seem the most interesting to me... That aside, I wonder what would prevent Tobi from hiding in the void for longer than 5 minutes...Probably isn't good for his health, like staying around a black hole for any measurement of time, I guess...
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Just like itachis sharingan, each eye poses a certain special ability. With his left eye, he could use Tsukuyomi,and with his right eye he could use Amaterasu. Tobis right Sharigan can use Space–Time Ninjutsu and you guys know what tobi is capable of doing with space time ninjutsu. Kakashis Sharingan can perform Kamui, a technique that sucks anything within a small area to another dimension. So if tobi is able to obtain kakashis left sharingan he would be unstoppable. Im surprise he hasn't done it yet. Tobi has Obitos right sharingan, and i believe tobi is Obito! just like orochimaru can use Immortality Technique to transfer his soul to another person i think tobi did the same to Obito.
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