Shakugan no Shana III - Episode 4 Discussion / Poll

[Klashikari]

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[syke123]

Was wondering when this would get put up, can't wait for the sub! I'm dying from anticipation.

[Senshigeia]

So, like I said in other thread, I couldn't wait and saw the raw episode, although I don't really undrestand japanese. But, fortunatly it seems I understood a part of what they were saying, wich makes me quite happy: I'm finally able to understand a little bit of japanese, after 10 years, or so, of anime fandom...

Has for the episode itself:

Spoiler for Episode 4:

Great animation! Really, I remebered season 1, and now watching season 3... Wow! So, it seems we have the fight we were so longing for. Intense, full of action, but somehow I was expecting a little more strength on Shana's part. Somehow, I think the action we didn't get on the previous 3 episodes, we've got it like BANG!!!!

Anyway, great episode. Now I have to rewatch it with english subs...

[syke123]

Originally Posted by Senshigeia

So, like I said in other thread, I couldn't wait and saw the raw episode, although I don't really undrestand japanese. But, fortunatly it seems I understood a part of what they were saying, wich makes me quite happy: I'm finally able to understand a little bit of japanese, after 10 years, or so, of anime fandom...

Has for the episode itself:

Spoiler for Episode 4:

Great animation! Really, I remebered season 1, and now watching season 3... Wow! So, it seems we have the fight we were so longing for. Intense, full of action, but somehow I was expecting a little more strength on Shana's part. Somehow, I think the action we didn't get on the previous 3 episodes, we've got it like BANG!!!!

Anyway, great episode. Now I have to rewatch it with english subs...

Did the episode just air? I thought it was supposed to air this morning, seeing how subs for episode 2 were up on friday at around 9pm. Regardless, I'm going to lurk for commies release, hopefully tonight.

[virox]

Wow, what an episode.
But I got a question to those who actually read the novel this episode is based on.

Spoiler for question:

Was the brutal beating of Shana actually described in the novel?
All I know is that he beats her unconscious, but I don't know if it was actually described how he did it and all that. Because aside from one swing with his hair and some bloodspill, we didn't get to see exactly HOW he beat her in the episode, just that their attacks clashed and Yuuji's attack engulfed Shana. Next thing we see is how he takes unconscious and with bruises covered Shana to Yoshida and Tanaka.

I just want to know if J.C.Staff skipped some stuff here, of if it was like that in the novel, too.

By the way, the episode was really nice, and heart tearingly well done, I'm just curious whether J.C.Staff had to put out their censor or if it was like that in the novel, too.

[Game8910]

It was like that in the novels pretty much. There wasnt any in depth description of how Yuji beat her. All we see is that she carried a beaten down Shana to where Yoshida was.

As for the episode, I waited for 4 years to see this event animated, and you know what....it was worth it. I had really high expectations for this scene and was praying to god JC Staff would not ruin it and they pulled through perfectly...what an awesome episode 10/10

[virox]

Originally Posted by Game8910

It was like that in the novels pretty much. There wasnt any in depth description of how Yuji beat her. All we see is that she carried a beaten down Shana to where Yoshida was.

As for the episode, I waited for 4 years to see this event animated, and you know what....it was worth it. I had really high expectations for this scene and was praying to god JC Staff would not ruin it and they pulled through perfectly...what an awesome episode 10/10

Awesome, good to know, and thank you very much!
I will now proceed to rate the episode just like you!

[charizardpal]

Well I would have liked to have seen the fight animated...that's why I looked forward to this animation. I'd like to see more character development for Shana now that she's

Spoiler for captured:

been captured

....I want a lot more than her just saying "Yuuji" and looking hurt.

[elleinad00]

Perfect 10~!! It is veRY epic!
but I can't really understand it...... (waiting for subs~)

at the preview i think were going see zeotope...... right??

[alvinkhorfire]

Originally Posted by Game8910

As for the episode, I waited for 4 years to see this event animated, and you know what....it was worth it. I had really high expectations for this scene and was praying to god JC Staff would not ruin it and they pulled through perfectly...what an awesome episode 10/10

Well said, Game8910. Thanks, J.C. Staff for being faithful in adapting the novel material and following Yashichiro Takahashi's original intention. It is just what we fans want to see. Keep up the good work, J.C. Staff.

Anime viewers who have not been exposed to novel content are definitely in a complete shock in seeing this episode, the very same shock we, who read the novel spoilers, suffered from quite a long time ago.

Originally Posted by Senshigeia

Spoiler for Episode 4:

somehow I was expecting a little more strength on Shana's part.

Spoiler for Possible Answer:

Well, it is understandable that Shana is quite hesitant to attack Yuji with full strength. For one, she is quite relieved to see Yuji has not disappeared at all. However, as a Flame Haze, she is bound to her duty to eliminate tomogara, as Yuji is now officially a tomogara. Shana is also falling for Yuji's rather convincing words during the battle. Plus with the fact that she loves Yuji, Shana is quite indecisive in whether to attack Yuji or not. It is a painful decision for her, and she really does not have other option.

Spoiler for Small Remark & Question About Episode Content:

It is painful to see Shana to be hurted by Yuji, but it is what it should be. Other than that, it is definitely delightful to watch this perfect episode.
Plus, it is just as rewarding to hear Shana's triple urasai. On a side note, Shana is not very impressed by Yuji's new strength. Throughout Season 1 and Season 2, she encourages Yuji to be stronger through training. Little does she know that eventually Yuji becomes the commander of Bal Masqué to be much stronger than before, to the point that he is stronger than Shana. Guess that Shana still wants to be one wearing the pants in her relationship with Yuji.

Question: So, who is the one standing in front of Sophie at 23 m 40 s? Is it Shana?

[RJ TAYLER]

I never give ten out of ten ever, this episode almost made me break that rule. It had everything that a series set-up could ask for and whets ones appetite for the series to come. A 'would watch again and again' for sure.

[serenade_beta]

The entire drama over Silver and Marjory worked at first, but it kind of faded into an old lady screaming her lungs out and an aheh face.
And Silver's identity wasn't impressive.

As for the rest...
Yuuji's hair and voice and speech pattern takes the cake as usual.


Well, an improvement from the previous episode, at least.

[Ec1ge]

A beautiful 10/10.
Even though I watched it RAW, I understood a majority of the things that happened since I read about what happened.

EDIT:

Spoiler for Margery:

Margery's screaming got a tad bit annoying

[Senshigeia]

alvinkhorfire: Got it.

Spoiler for Reply to alvinkhorfire:

I am still waiting for the subs so that I can understand it entirely. I Understood the majority of events because I read the novel spoilers
About Shana x Yuji, what you say makes sense to me, she is always hesitating in her attacks, and always looking at him like "is this true? Is he really changed?"

RJ TAYLER: Surely I will watch it over and over 'till next Friday!

[TruthsWraith]

Great episode been waiting for this one since I read about it and it did not disappoint at all. This is one of the few episodes I have to give J.C.Staff one and rate it high. Also compare Yuji at the end of season 1 to Yuji at the end of season 2 then compare them all to him now see if you notice any changes.

[ars89]

Wow great. So the silver was just a manifestation of Margery's emotions? So in the end she was just chasing herself. Hopefully she can regain herself.

So Yuji went on a search for power and somehow found the Snake. So since the Snake was in the abyss does that mean Sakai went there to retrieve him. Though i doubt he had any knowledge of who he was. Interesting how he decided to get stronger so he could protect everyone, but then furthered that thought by wanting to change the whole world.

Like how he finally turned down Yoshida. She was my least favorite. Wonder how Shana will escape or if that's even possible.

[Flawfinder]

Good episode, was looking forward to it ever since I saw the novel spoilers, but Margery's scream sure lasted a long time. Just how long can you do that? It made me laugh, which I don't think is a good thing.

[Ec1ge]

Originally Posted by Flawnalyst

Good episode, was looking forward to it ever since I saw the novel spoilers, but Margery's scream sure lasted a long time. Just how long can you do that? It made me laugh, which I don't think is a good thing.

Same here

[patrick7421]

i don't understand y Yuji became evil? =\ anyone explain???

[Izayoi]

Originally Posted by patrick7421

i don't understand y Yuji became evil? =\ anyone explain???

Someone took Yuji's body/Yuji allows him to take it for whatever reason. The specific motive for Yuji's betrayal/letting someone take his body is not revealed yet, so it would be a spoiler to tell you. But it is hinted upon that he has good intentions. ie become capable to changing the world for the better.

Edit: tl;dr Yuji want to change stuff by whatever means necessary, even if means making others think he is evil.