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This is an especially pressing problem since nuclear energy appears to be the only long-term energy alternative out there unless there are some radical changes in the way people live. It's probably going to be inevitable that much of the world will go in the direction of nuclear energy, so the best thing to do is to make it as safe and as sustainable as possible. There are lots of promising ideas in this field and the biggest obstacles are in terms of politics (both international and local). Quote:
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And as Mumitroll pointed out, nuclear waste isn't anywhere nearly as difficult to dispose of as it's popularly depicted. The procedures that can take care of other (and usually much more volumous) toxic chemicals can deal with nuclear waste. It's just that the latter have much worse press. While the discussion about Isreal and geopolitics and so forth is pretty interesting, I think that it's outside of the scope for this thread, which was to discuss the potentials and dangers of nuclear power, not nuclear weapons. I suggest that you take it to PMs or a different thread.
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2008-11-13, 15:49 | Link #62 | |
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I would agree than Dirty bomb on a battlefield is not that usefull, but on a civil area. it would have great impact , psychological at first, but let a little time and peoples will die.
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True, but that depends on how much the government values the life of a citizen. Obviously, if the government considers their citizens as cannon fodder or expandables, then that's not even a threat to begin with. Otherwise, it is considerable threat.
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The article only talks of radiation poisoning through close proximity but if you enhale or digest even minute amount of high energy dust particles it will cause cancer and/or leukaemia. The death toll numbering up will be slow but will be consistant for over a five+ year period. |
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Coming up with plans to maximize the damage is mind boogling like dusting corn fields with high energy particles and wait for announcing the attack until AFTER harvesting and shipping.
When announced the whole harvest of that season will be deemed unusable subduing the entire American agricultrual industry to their knees. |
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That's precisely what would cause the most damage from any such radioactive device. The best defense against this is education on how such radiation poses a danger, and in what conditions it's relatively safe.
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What you and the article fail to adimit is the mid/long term damage through long term exposure to radioactive particles lodged into people's lungs and or blood stream. I do believe that there is a standard amount of radiation humans and considered hazardous exeeding that certain level. Quote:
You just mix radioactive dust into the pesticide/fertilizer and have the un-witting crop dusters do the rest. You maybe able to quarentine some but the facility will be deemed hazardous, the crop land that had been dusted will be needed to be shut down due to radioactive contamination with the top soil needed to be replaced and as a result the US corn market will plumet like a rock. It will make the mad cow fiasco look like a mild case of the flu compared to this if it happens. |
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The reason the mad cow scenario was so problematic was because nobody knew how widespread it was and because testing for it was both expensive and difficult to perform. Geiger counters are nowhere nearly so difficult to use.
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2008-11-15, 00:08 | Link #71 |
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This whole OMFG ISRAEL HAS N00KS thing can be analogized quite simply.
If I'm a responsible human being, does it matter that I own all manners of assault weaponry if I haven't ever gone on a killing rampage? No. However, what happens when you give an ideological maniac a handgun? He'll have a higher chance to shoot someone than the responsible guy with the latest BFG in his closet. The solution to evil ideological nations with nukes is simple: If they want to play with fire, remove them overnight. Make an example of the first nation so stupid as to try to use nukes without Free World permission. |
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And how well did this policy work out for you in Iraq (setting aside the fact they didn't even have nukes)? |
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''Free World permission'' ,do no not exist. Even the nation whan would only ripost to nuclear attack with nuclear attack will be criticize by everyone else.
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The US may not be "right" all the time. (Nice job in Indochina, not just Vietnam.) But, I'm still more willing to trust them than Russia.
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