2011-01-16, 18:37 | Link #21521 | |
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I don't see why people think it's so unbelievable that Battler just forgot to write her a letter. The only people who received letters were his cousins. It's not like he wrote a letter for every single person on Rokkenjima and just happened to forget about Shannon. |
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2011-01-16, 18:49 | Link #21522 |
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Oh, I don't think it's unbelievable that Battler forgot or didn't care to write a letter. I just also don't think it's unbelievable that George would be a dick about it if he did write a letter.
And I really don't think Shannon was watching the letters like a hawk or anything. Why would she? She had no reason to think that George wouldn't just give it to her (if it existed). |
2011-01-16, 18:50 | Link #21523 | |
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But then I didn't understand much of the basis of the theory either when I read it. And I agree. It's enough for Kyrie to pester Battler to write letters to his cousins, and then not remember because Shannon isn't one of the people Kyrie was talking about when she told him to. And even then if there's no letter for Shannon he could simply lie about what his letter says and it would be the same kind of thing.
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2011-01-16, 19:43 | Link #21524 | ||
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2011-01-16, 20:14 | Link #21525 |
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In addition, I think someone said here that it was suspicious how George just handed the empty envelope to Shannon. He didn't say, "Please throw this away for me," he handed it to her to show it was empty. If you were nonchalantly digging out letters, it's not a natural reaction to hand over an empty envelope.
Essentially it's like saying, "See? It's empty. This constitutes proof that he forgot you." We could be reading too much into this, but then, these still may be clues. The kind of clues where there's a hole for a culprit to do something and for us to go... "Well maybe, but it's not overt, so it can't be..." In addition, if George was really sensitive to other people (or sensitive to Shannon, specifically), like the first few episodes portray, then he would have remembered that Shannon and Battler used to play together. By acting as if he 'forgot' or was 'unaware' of Shannon's feelings he is at odds with how he was portrayed earlier and later, (like in the EP7 Tea Party where he directly says he remembers Battler and Shannon and that they were often together, so that made him jealous.) So, whenever he acts like, "Oh, I didn't know...." then we should probably take it to mean that he very, very much does know, and is lying for some reason. Ok, guys... get the rope. I think we've got enough for a hangin' tonight. 8) Last edited by Kylon99; 2011-01-16 at 20:43. |
2011-01-16, 20:59 | Link #21526 |
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Well, like I said earlier, Rokkenjimas Prime is a dormant Transformer.
Shkannontrice is just a manifestation of his Spark while unconscious. He forms from combining the the chapel, mansion, Toraian, Kuwadorian, the sunken submarine, and the ten tons of gold (actually Energon cubes). When he awakens, he recombines into a single 'bot, crushing everyone, and flies off back to Cybertron (the Golden Land) in his guilt, taking most of what is left of the bodies with him accidentally and leaving behind the giant mysterious crater in his wake. Kinzo is also actually secretly a Pretender clone of Unicron, and should sound like Orson Welles if speaking in English. The lion statues around the chapel on the other hand are clearly Voltron. Obviously.
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2011-01-16, 22:38 | Link #21528 | |
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2011-01-17, 00:20 | Link #21530 | |
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2011-01-17, 22:16 | Link #21531 | |
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Gattai!
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2011-01-18, 04:52 | Link #21534 | |
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The use of mirrors as a metaphor in the story over and over was just over used IMHO. It doesn't need a complicated explanation.
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2011-01-18, 04:55 | Link #21535 | |
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This is the story behind Rokkenjima Prime. R07 just confirmed it some days ago in an interview.
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2011-01-18, 05:03 | Link #21536 |
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You know, I'm sure this had been brought up before, but I got to thinking lately, and the only conclusion I can really come to about Umineko, after everything's said and done is that the the true culprit of the Rokkenjima Incident is Kinzo.
After all, wasn't he the one that made all of this possible in the first place? |
2011-01-18, 05:49 | Link #21539 | |
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i have a feeling that you making fun of me.by showing me that anyway,i just finish the ep7 of the game.is the ?????tea party shows what happened in rokkenjima? @Kaisos Erranon the gold is the culprit,human can become greedy when it comes to gold. remember the story kinzo told in ep7? there's a italian and japanese soldiers fighting each other because of the gold. i think the whole thing just repeat itself. |
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2011-01-18, 05:52 | Link #21540 | ||
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To gain two, sacrifice one, remember? Kinzo and his stolen gold made everything possible, and that's why he's to blame for all this. Quote:
The man was forty years old at the time and an excellent marksman. There's no way he acted in the manner that he presented himself in the story. |
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