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Kana Hanazawa ♥
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: France
Age: 37
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I find Ohana incredibly lovable, but I can understand why other people would find her annoying. She's far from perfect, after all (which is a good thing in my book).
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2011-04-04, 16:47 | Link #306 |
Tsukiyomi -Moon Phase-
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I'm not sure what to think about this anime. The animation was nicely done, but the first episode didn't stand out much for me. Ohana and Minko appears to be roommates but Minko doesn't like Ohana. I'm guessing their relationship gets better as seen in the ending. Both of those girls got slapped pretty hard lol.I just don't know how good this anime will be.
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2011-04-04, 18:10 | Link #309 |
Miria's #1 Disciple
Join Date: Apr 2007
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That said, your taking modern society standards and applying to them to someone who is clearly a very traditional old lady. Her idea of discipline is very different from modern worth ethic.
I see her like a Nun in a Catholic School, who disciplined students by smacking their hands with rulers to punish them, or even a parent who spanks their children for being bad (who can get sued for child abuse these days). Heck, the military operated under a similar principle, but once again, modern standards throw a negative light on this. If my grandmother slapped me for almost injuring a customer at her business while doing something I wasn't supposed to be doing I wouldn't see that as abuse. I'd probably be pissed initially, but I see the logic behind the punishment. As I have seen mentioned elsewhere, this is very much a cultural difference at play. To someone familiar with traditional Asian values, that scene would be far from extreme.
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2011-04-04, 18:27 | Link #310 |
Guess what time it is?
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Nova Scotia, Canada
Age: 38
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If the characters and drama remain even half as good as the show looks, we have a huge winner on our hands.
If you told me last year that by April I'd have placed two (along with Hourou Musuko) slice-of-life shows on my "must watch" list, I'd have told you that you had the wrong number. I'm looking forward to seeing the school setting. I expect Ohana is in for at least another episode or two of culture shock before things really get rolling. Also, while I hope that Ko returns, I kinda hope we don't see or hear from him for a while. It would seem that the prudent recipe would be to season with drama to taste, and let simmer for 7-14 episodes. |
2011-04-04, 20:31 | Link #311 | |
Yuuki Aoi
Join Date: Jul 2004
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In fact, this is an example of something that strikes me again and again. Many customs we call "Asian" were perfectly normal in the West not so long ago. A hundred years ago -- even fifty years ago -- it was perfectly acceptable in the West as well to strike children. It was supposedly a sign of love here, too, lol. This is one case where the old-fashioned Eastern way is not better, just archaic and inhuman, like most things in the past.
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2011-04-04, 20:44 | Link #312 |
Miria's #1 Disciple
Join Date: Apr 2007
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There is of course such a thing as "too much" but I really didn't consider that to be the case here. If she had beaten her, or slapped her just because she felt like it, then I'd see that as abuse.
The opposite is also true in modern society, some people get off far too lightly for things that they probably SHOULD be smacked for. Just because it is bad when taken to an extreme doesn't mean the opposite is ideal either.
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2011-04-04, 21:31 | Link #314 |
Sensei, aishite imasu
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Hong Kong Shatterdome
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I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that the Grand Mother isn't being a complete bitch, nor that Ohana is being a spastic air head. Her treatment is rather harsh, but I personally wouldn't qualify it as abusive. And if anything, all you can really peg Ohana on is being a naive person whose found themselves in a totally new environment. And it's pretty clear the Grandmother has some feelings for her Grand daughter, and that Ohana is willing to not shirk off when she feels like she made someone else get in trouble for her own screw up.
If there was anyone I came away disliking it was Minko. I can understand a degree of irritation with Ohana's initial behavior and blunders , but her actions really ultimately felt more immature. You get the feeling she's under allot of pressure at the inn, and copes by letting it all out on someone she feels is lower on the pecking order than she is. |
2011-04-04, 21:56 | Link #315 |
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As a man who used to worked at an Asian restaurant that still uses Asian work ethics, here's my opinion on this issue:
The grandmother was being harsh but then again, it's kinda hard to deal with a girl who's mother is disowned by her grandmother, and is also her boss. I can understand that. The mother did a horrible thing by sending her own daughter to work at an inn which is owned by her grandmother who disowns her own daughter. What kind of mom would do that? "My mom hates me, so i'm gonna send my daughter to work with my mom, eventhough she disowns me" Another problem with the grandma is that she believes that "customer always comes first" or "the customer is always right". Now, this is the reason why i hate working in most Asian businesses. I used to work at several European companies and they have this policy of "If you treat us right, we'll treat you right" which benefits employees and customers alot. If you're gonna abuse your employees more just for the sake of the customer, then you're create a worse employees who can't even smile at a customer because of the pain she gets from the slappings. And besides, the customers at the inn were actually cool with Ohana's error, so why should you punish her and Minko more? I know it's Japan, but again a few times of Gomenasais and a "Oh, it's cool" response by the customers does not equal three times of slaps.
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2011-04-04, 22:04 | Link #316 |
Miria's #1 Disciple
Join Date: Apr 2007
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The Customer comes first is pretty standard business ethic actually. Almost all business classes I have taken state as much. Although I can certainly understand how people in the service industry would love to (and do) treat bad customers badly.
Were the grandmother is wrong (and were the granddaughter is right) is that the employee doesn't come last in this process. Your employees are almost as vital as your customers, especially in the service industry.
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2011-04-04, 23:29 | Link #320 |
Miria's #1 Disciple
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I never said the customer is always right, I said the customer comes first, there is a difference.
A single rude employee can be far worse for a business then a single rude customer, especially since a single rude employee is likely to interact with multiple customers/other employees. The Customer may not always be right, but they should still be priority #1 to any business that wants to succeed. Once again, extreme cases are always the exception.
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