[PS3/PSV] Legend of Heroes: Sen no Kiseki

[Nighty40]

Originally Posted by Dextro

Do you think the Calvard arc will be set at the same time as Zero/AO/Sen as well?

No way it’s going to be during Zero/Ao and the first half of Sen, maybe during the second half but I’d rather it be after personally

[MeoTwister5]

Schera's clothes look like they're about one sheep accident away from exploding open.

As for the Calvard arc, lots of stuff happened there alongside Crossbell and Erebonia regarding that racist organization. Lots of stuff you can explore on that part.

[LROlsson]

Originally Posted by Dextro

Do you think the Calvard arc will be set at the same time as Zero/AO/Sen as well?

No, nothing indicates something major happened/is happening there and most organizations are right now focused on the crisis in Erebonia.

Most likely is that it would take place after Sen 4.
Calvard will probably be in a bad state post sen 4(as said in yesterday's video, there is a high risk that Erebonia will destroy Calvard), which would likely make the terrorist situation worse.

There is also the non-plot thing that Falcom must start thinking about getting newcomers, thus making Calvard as stand-alone as possible.

[dragon1412]

Originally Posted by Dextro

Do you think the Calvard arc will be set at the same time as Zero/AO/Sen as well?

doubtful, the interview was indicated that after Sen 4 the story will enter a different time. And the currents issues in Erebonia is already far beyond what Calvard can interfere. At the end of Sen3, with Osborne at the helm, Cedric at his side, stance of Erebonia is confirmed. Like LROlsson said, it'd be actually weirder if Erebonia don't attack Calvard consider their long time animosity.

[rladls2121]

I'm expecting Lloyd Bannings vs Lechter Arundal vs Cao Lee, their three way battle of wits.
Using whatever information they can use to outwit each other.
Who knows which one of them will loses the most?

I feel like Lechter might have nothing else much to lose, the girl who still loves him might be one of the exceptions though.
Lloyd, for him his comrades pretty much that is everything to him now, for KeA's sake losing even one of them is not an option.
Cao Lee, I think he has so much to lose than the other two in different ways.

[Marina2]

With Divide Knights and Panzer Soldats in Erebonia's possession, I wonder how will other countries will manage to keep up with Erebonia's military power.

I expect that Calvard , in cooperation with other countries, are secretly developing their own 'weapon' to counter those Erebonia' robots. Liberal has been recovering 'ancient' technologies from Liberal Ark. Maybe they already found something useful, developed something, and shared it to other countries. For example: Orbal Gun that can replicate [black orbal] energy and use it as anti-Panzer Soldat or even a blue print for their own version of Panzer Soldat.

If exist, it probably get revealed in CS4.

[Marx-93]

The civil war already showed that Soldats were beatable by normal weapons. They were just another type of weapon, not an "I win" button. They give more tactical advantages, and the surprise of showing up in a freaking giant robot is hard to beat, but the Imperial army tanks beat them, and I'm sure Calvardian/Liberlian/whatever tanks can do the same if properly lead.

The Erebonian advantages are more numerous however. After Osborne's reforms and conquests they're just plain stronger, and with the serial production of a Pantagruel type they're probably better even in the air, where Calvard usually had the advantage. Lechter is basically playing circles around Calvard intelligence. The empire is also more stable (very strong morale), Osborne seems to have been planning this for years, and their motives are even justified given what happens in Sen III.

Calvard has the defensive advantage, but even then it likely won't be a matter of winning the war, but rather of resisting until Osborne and Cedric are out of the picture.

(On the Divine Knights, I doubt they will be a factor. The only one they could use openly without raising questions was Rean, all the other are supposedly dead or piloting a cursed machine)

[dniv]

Originally Posted by LROlsson

No, nothing indicates something major happened/is happening there and most organizations are right now focused on the crisis in Erebonia.

Most likely is that it would take place after Sen 4.
Calvard will probably be in a bad state post sen 4(as said in yesterday's video, there is a high risk that Erebonia will destroy Calvard), which would likely make the terrorist situation worse.

There is also the non-plot thing that Falcom must start thinking about getting newcomers, thus making Calvard as stand-alone as possible.

But then wouldn't it be weird that the Liberl arc and the Crossbell arc have already told us so many things about Calvard that's happened during this time. Especially Ao ... like hey I don't mind Sheng being a bit grown up when we go to Calvard, but I feel like it'd be weird to not focus or at least put some significance on those Calvard events we've found out about from other games. Even Sen has had a fair amount of Calvard stuff.

[The Green One]

We just need to be patient, Calvard has been played up too much for us not to visit them at some point. I imagine the region has to have at least one Septterion in in so it's got to be inevitable we're going there next.

[dragon1412]

Originally Posted by The Green One

We just need to be patient, Calvard has been played up too much for us not to visit them at some point. I imagine the region has to have at least one Septterion in in so it's got to be inevitable we're going there next.

out of all 7, even with Erebonia arc, we only see 4 of them, and 1 is still in a destroyed state, so i'd say Calvard definitely have at the very least 1/

[LROlsson]

Originally Posted by dniv

But then wouldn't it be weird that the Liberl arc and the Crossbell arc have already told us so many things about Calvard that's happened during this time. Especially Ao ... like hey I don't mind Sheng being a bit grown up when we go to Calvard, but I feel like it'd be weird to not focus or at least put some significance on those Calvard events we've found out about from other games. Even Sen has had a fair amount of Calvard stuff.

Calvard has problems, no doubt about that, but nothing major that needs to be covered during the year 1204-1206.
They have some terrorist problem, but nothing that seems to out of control. Ouroboros is too focused on Phantasmal Blaze too cause anything Calvard. And the biggest thing Calvard was focused on was finding out when X Day will be.

But that will probably be different post Sen IV. Calvard will probably not be in the best of shape politically after a war with Erebonia, which could give the terrorists a better footing. The crisis in the east could accelerate making even a bigger flowing of immigrants which could give the terrorist even more support from the public.
And Ouroboros would be free to do whatever they want there.

So when it's time for Calvard it will likely be post sen IV, whatever happened before could easily be covered in flashbacks.

[dniv]

Originally Posted by LROlsson

Calvard has problems, no doubt about that, but nothing major that needs to be covered during the year 1204-1206.
They have some terrorist problem, but nothing that seems to out of control. Ouroboros is too focused on Phantasmal Blaze too cause anything Calvard. And the biggest thing Calvard was focused on was finding out when X Day will be.

But that will probably be different post Sen IV. Calvard will probably not be in the best of shape politically after a war with Erebonia, which could give the terrorists a better footing. The crisis in the east could accelerate making even a bigger flowing of immigrants which could give the terrorist even more support from the public.
And Ouroboros would be free to do whatever they want there.

So when it's time for Calvard it will likely be post sen IV, whatever happened before could easily be covered in flashbacks.

When I was looking at some of the Kondo Interviews, it seemed like we might not even get Yun Ka-fai in Calvard since he's further East, but I hope he appears for that ... What you're saying about flashbacks is totally fair.

I thought we got info in Third that Ouroboros was doing stuff in Calvard though I don't remember. At the very least, I remember that the ancient technology beneath Liberl Castle in FC was found in Calvard beforehand which may have had to do with Ourboros? I'm pretty sure Ao mentioned that Ouroboros was active all over the continent during the fragment chapter which probably included Calvard. I just find it to believe that a place as big as Calvard didn't have Ouroboros laying the groundwork in motion simultaneously while they were focusing on the phantasmal blaze plan. They always seem to be working on a bajillion plans at the same time. Was Calvard really just that low of a priority/that weak of a threat to them? That's hard to believe.

One focus I'd really like to see in the Calvard Arc is what Grace and Rixia foreshadowed in Ao when she mentioned that the Calvard Republic was built on assassinations and shows of force which forcefully led to that democratic process. It'd be interesting if the people living there had to uncover the past and find out the truth of how the Republic was formed and have to face the dark truths behind the founding of Calvard.

[dragon1412]

Originally Posted by dniv

When I was looking at some of the Kondo Interviews, it seemed like we might not even get Yun Ka-fai in Calvard since he's further East, but I hope he appears for that ... What you're saying about flashbacks is totally fair.

I thought we got info in Third that Ouroboros was doing stuff in Calvard though I don't remember. At the very least, I remember that the ancient technology beneath Liberl Castle in FC was found in Calvard beforehand which may have had to do with Ourboros? I'm pretty sure Ao mentioned that Ouroboros was active all over the continent during the fragment chapter which probably included Calvard. I just find it to believe that a place as big as Calvard didn't have Ouroboros laying the groundwork in motion simultaneously while they were focusing on the phantasmal blaze plan. They always seem to be working on a bajillion plans at the same time. Was Calvard really just that low of a priority/that weak of a threat to them? That's hard to believe.

One focus I'd really like to see in the Calvard Arc is what Grace and Rixia foreshadowed in Ao when she mentioned that the Calvard Republic was built on assassinations and shows of force which forcefully led to that democratic process. It'd be interesting if the people living there had to uncover the past and find out the truth of how the Republic was formed and have to face the dark truths behind the founding of Calvard.

I'm pretty sure that Ouroboros do have point with Calvard, but it's more of a ground work at the time of Sen 3,4, the reason is that, during Sen2, Ao zero time, Ouroboros is focus on Crossbell with the Azure tree, Sen 3,4 is focused on Erebonia consider 2 Sept is involved, It's simply too important and they would likely let Calvard have some small groundwork in order to focus on Erebonia, especially that Erebonia have people who is dangerous enough to outplay and go against them.

Remember, pretty much all the highest battle personnel of Ouroboros are in Erebonia already, McBurn, Arianhood, Campanella, ... they simply don't have more resource to cause trouble in Calvard

[dniv]

Originally Posted by dragon1412

I'm pretty sure that Ouroboros do have point with Calvard, but it's more of a ground work at the time of Sen 3,4, the reason is that, during Sen2, Ao zero time, Ouroboros is focus on Crossbell with the Azure tree, Sen 3,4 is focused on Erebonia consider 2 Sept is involved, It's simply too important and they would likely let Calvard have some small groundwork in order to focus on Erebonia, especially that Erebonia have people who is dangerous enough to outplay and go against them.

Remember, pretty much all the highest battle personnel of Ouroboros are in Erebonia already, McBurn, Arianhood, Campanella, ... they simply don't have more resource to cause trouble in Calvard

Well, isn't the scariest part of Ouroboros not the battle personnel, but rather the shrewd ones behind the scenes? They could easily have another Vita or just enforcers in Calvard instead of Anguis. Clearly they have more enforcers that we haven't seen...

[dragon1412]

Originally Posted by dniv

Well, isn't the scariest part of Ouroboros not the battle personnel, but rather the shrewd ones behind the scenes? They could easily have another Vita or just enforcers in Calvard instead of Anguis. Clearly they have more enforcers that we haven't seen...

yeah they definitely have more that what we see, but it is questionable that the plan is able to go without a hitch and not require powerful combat personnel to combat uncertainty. The plan is 1 thing, but they need people to drive and ensue the plan success, those who is capable of ensuing that is all in incident with erebonia right now, and even then, they are still facing serious odds, Osborne, the divine knights, Crossbell team, the Bright, ... And there is the massive new noble force with Aurelia at the helm and Vita seem to have jump ship. I'd say ouroboros is actually pretty strained with their resources as it is

[Applehell]

Originally Posted by LROlsson

Calvard has problems, no doubt about that, but nothing major that needs to be covered during the year 1204-1206.
They have some terrorist problem, but nothing that seems to out of control. Ouroboros is too focused on Phantasmal Blaze too cause anything Calvard. And the biggest thing Calvard was focused on was finding out when X Day will be.

But that will probably be different post Sen IV. Calvard will probably not be in the best of shape politically after a war with Erebonia, which could give the terrorists a better footing. The crisis in the east could accelerate making even a bigger flowing of immigrants which could give the terrorist even more support from the public.
And Ouroboros would be free to do whatever they want there.

So when it's time for Calvard it will likely be post sen IV, whatever happened before could easily be covered in flashbacks.

Yep. It's a good idea to point out now, that with the Gospel Plan Ouroborous' previous operation pnly just happened 2 years ago and turned Liberl into a mess for quite sometime too. The Phantasmal Blaze Plan is that but on a higher scale to becasue it involves simultaneous activities in two counties one of which is the most powerful in Western Zemuria. Succeeding at the 2nd stage of their overall goals should net them 2-3 Sept-Terions. Anything they have planned for Calvard will come later.

[dniv]

Originally Posted by Applehell

Yep. It's a good idea to point out now, that with the Gospel Plan Ouroborous' previous operation pnly just happened 2 years ago and turned Liberl into a mess for quite sometime too. The Phantasmal Blaze Plan is that but on a higher scale to becasue it involves simultaneous activities in two counties one of which is the most powerful in Western Zemuria. Succeeding at the 2nd stage of their overall goals should net them 2-3 Sept-Terions. Anything they have planned for Calvard will come later.

I find it hard to believe that the seeds for Calvard haven't been properly set in stone though. Look at the secret behind their hand in the Liberl arc. Even the hundred day war was them and they set that up years ago. That's why I think they're probably continuously still setting things up for Calvard, otherwise it won't be as interesting when we get to that arc since Falcom seems to LOVE the elaborate conspiracy thing.

[LROlsson]

Scherazard, Klaudia and Cassius have been added to the official website.

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[Nighty40]

Originally Posted by LROlsson

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Schera and Sara drinking together, yeah we expected that

[Marx-93]

Cassius actually using a sword...

WELP, that's Zemuria's equivalent to DEFCON 1 if I ever saw one. Oh, and there's another image of Cassius working with the republican army, though as we said they probably need the help.