(L) Nanatsu no Taizai (The Seven Deadly Sins) [Manga]

[FlareKnight]

I can certainly understand Matrona's perspective. But at the same time, it's not going to be the lifestyle for everyone. It's the classic warrior race setup, but the issue is that people are different. The girl that died didn't want that lifestyle. One girl that didn't want to fight no matter what, one girl that simply wanted honorable battle, and one girl who was in the middle. Diane is willing and able to fight, but she doesn't simply want to fight unless it's for those she cares about.

I think it's likely that Matrona is dead and probably it ties into Diane's sin. I'm not sure exactly what is going to happen here. Clearly Diane is going to be in the middle of a disaster and in the end join the Sins.

Also nice little touches explaining why Diane got so attached to Meliodas. Part of the blame is the mixed up memories merging with more recent events.

[Wandering Soul]

Matrona's ideals are understandable but I have to agree with Diane that fighting for the sake of it is sorta sad. While I'm predicting that she is still alive I would not be surprised if it turns out that Matrona died.

[Endscape]

Originally Posted by FlareKnight

I can certainly understand Matrona's perspective. But at the same time, it's not going to be the lifestyle for everyone. It's the classic warrior race setup, but the issue is that people are different. The girl that died didn't want that lifestyle. One girl that didn't want to fight no matter what, one girl that simply wanted honorable battle, and one girl who was in the middle. Diane is willing and able to fight, but she doesn't simply want to fight unless it's for those she cares about.

Yeah, Matrona is just a product of her environment. Despite what she says, she's kind in her own way.

Notice how she saved Delores despite scolding Diane for doing the same.

Also nice little touches explaining why Diane got so attached to Meliodas. Part of the blame is the mixed up memories merging with more recent events.

Notice how Meliodas reacted when he heard Diane's name? Judging from that, plus what he said about his 'eclectic companions', I think King told him about Diane.

[Kafriel]

IMO Dolores and Diane were the odd ones out...but Diane is exempted because she spent 500 years with King, so it's natural that her opinion on certain matters is different. Dolores, however, grew up in a tribe that worships battle and lives to die in it, that's why it's just weird for her to be a pacifist...she was too weak for a giant, but that's no excuse, really.

[marvelB]

For the record, I obviously don't agree with Matrona's views, either. But I still like how she sticks to her guns, though.

Originally Posted by Endscape

Yeah, Matrona is just a product of her environment. Despite what she says, she's kind in her own way.

Notice how she saved Delores despite scolding Diane for doing the same.

I wouldn't say she's that compassionate, especially considering that she literally sent that same girl she saved off to her death after Diane left....

[Eisdrache]

Dolores would probably be just as strong as the other giants if she put her mind to it. But her personality wasn't made for fighting which isn't all that surprising given that not every giant has to like fighting just because they're a giant.

[marvelB]

And in the latter half of the Diane gaiden:

Spoiler for Diane gaiden part 2:

Looks like Matrona and Diane were hired as reinforcements for the Liones army to help take down a group of barbarians! However, Meliodas is curiously absent when they arrive there....

During the battle, Matrona gets ambushed by an invisible enemy. It's here that things become clear: The Liones army's true targets were not the barbarians, but the giants! Most of the knights lose their lives in the ensuing skirmish, but in the end, they're able to topple the mighty Matrona through the use of poison.


Now, I'm a bit iffy on this part, but it seems the surviving knights either blame Diane for Matrona's death, or they basically make her bear the weight of Matrona's crimes (most likely the latter I think, though I guess both could work). However, as they throw the death penalty on her for her sins, Meliodas suddenly appears to put a stop to the conflict.....



Oh well, so it looks like Matrona bites it after all.... a shame, really. Though I do wonder who set up that trap to get rid of the giants in the first place? I doubt this was Fraudrin, since I'm pretty sure this takes place well before he possessed Dreyfus. Also, I'm not exactly sure how this incident is tied to Diane's sin of "envy".....

[Starway]

Originally Posted by marvelB

And in the latter half of the Diane gaiden:

Spoiler for Diane gaiden part 2:

Looks like Matrona and Diane were hired as reinforcements for the Liones army to help take down a group of barbarians! However, Meliodas is curiously absent when they arrive there....

During the battle, Matrona gets ambushed by an invisible enemy. It's here that things become clear: The Liones army's true targets were not the barbarians, but the giants! Most of the knights lose their lives in the ensuing skirmish, but in the end, they're able to topple the mighty Matrona through the use of poison.


Now, I'm a bit iffy on this part, but it seems the surviving knights either blame Diane for Matrona's death, or they basically make her bear the weight of Matrona's crimes (most likely the latter I think, though I guess both could work). However, as they throw the death penalty on her for her sins, Meliodas suddenly appears to put a stop to the conflict.....



Oh well, so it looks like Matrona bites it after all.... a shame, really. Though I do wonder who set up that trap to get rid of the giants in the first place? I doubt this was Fraudrin, since I'm pretty sure this takes place well before he possessed Dreyfus. Also, I'm not exactly sure how this incident is tied to Diane's sin of "envy".....

Are these spoilers confirmed they seem lacking in information also when they went to the city of the dead did Diane hint about anyone she knows dieing.

[BladeMancer]

Originally Posted by marvelB

And in the latter half of the Diane gaiden:

Spoiler for Diane gaiden part 2:

Looks like Matrona and Diane were hired as reinforcements for the Liones army to help take down a group of barbarians! However, Meliodas is curiously absent when they arrive there....

During the battle, Matrona gets ambushed by an invisible enemy. It's here that things become clear: The Liones army's true targets were not the barbarians, but the giants! Most of the knights lose their lives in the ensuing skirmish, but in the end, they're able to topple the mighty Matrona through the use of poison.


Now, I'm a bit iffy on this part, but it seems the surviving knights either blame Diane for Matrona's death, or they basically make her bear the weight of Matrona's crimes (most likely the latter I think, though I guess both could work). However, as they throw the death penalty on her for her sins, Meliodas suddenly appears to put a stop to the conflict.....



Oh well, so it looks like Matrona bites it after all.... a shame, really. Though I do wonder who set up that trap to get rid of the giants in the first place? I doubt this was Fraudrin, since I'm pretty sure this takes place well before he possessed Dreyfus. Also, I'm not exactly sure how this incident is tied to Diane's sin of "envy".....

Matrona was the ideal giant, powerful and combat focused. Diane was probably seen as inferior by the people and that her "killing" Matrona is a form of jealousy, hence the serpents sin of envy.

[Starway]

Chapter out spoilers never really tell the full story make more sense now and I really what to kill someone now poor Diane this was a really dark chapter.

[Wandering Soul]

So Diane's sin is envy all because of a fabricated lie.

[watisit]

Diane's sin seems a little underwhelming. Just one giant and one garrison of knights? Ban and King's affected a whole kingdom or involved a very long period of time.

[FlareKnight]

Yeah, somehow Diane's sin does seem a little weak. I guess in comparison to those who chose their sins and took a fall for something based on their own choice, Diane basically being framed feels really weak. Feels more like Diane just fell into her mess rather than made any affirmative action. Most of them seem to be branded criminals due to misinformation or downright lies, but something felt lacking here.

I suppose it's nice that Matrona did actually care deeply about Diane, but just sucked in relating to her. Was a great fighter, but a god awful people person.

[Kafriel]

Sooo, now that Diane headed back to the giant tribe, how do you guys think they will treat her after they heard about her killing Matrona?

[marvelB]

Originally Posted by BladeMancer

Matrona was the ideal giant, powerful and combat focused. Diane was probably seen as inferior by the people and that her "killing" Matrona is a form of jealousy, hence the serpents sin of envy.

Well, you were pretty much on the mark. Though I do agree with the others in feeling that Diane's sin is pretty underwhelming compared to Ban's and King's. I mean, at least the other two's sins actually DO come into play as far as their crimes are concerned. Diane, on the other hand, was just a convenient scapegoat. Well, I guess it is sort of interesting that one of the sins turned out to be a falsely branded one, but..... eh.

Originally Posted by Kafriel

Sooo, now that Diane headed back to the giant tribe, how do you guys think they will treat her after they heard about her killing Matrona?

Considering that she was ALREADY unpopular with her tribe before Matrona's death, I reckon that Diane will be about as warmly welcomed as King was when he returned to his old home (pre-Albion attack, anyway).

[ChuckE]

That was rather...lame.

I mean - Matrona's death was rather underwhelming

[Frailty]

Matrona took an arrow to the knee. Lol

[marvelB]

That time of the week is here:

Spoiler for 127:

We're back to the main story! Mel's group chases after Diane with the help of mama piggy. Merlin isn't using her teleportation because she needs to save energy in case they run into enemies. Back to the Commandments, Fraudrin asks Galan if he truly finished off his opponents. Galan sets back off to make sure he finished the job, but this time he's accompanied by a fellow commandment named something like Monspeet (maybe Monspete?)....


It's not long before Diane encounters Galan! She tries to escape, having a bad premonition, but now she finds Monspeet standing in front of her, as well! Galan catches up with the giantess and strikes her, and Monspeet takes this opportunity to consume Diane's soul! However, before the enemy's plan succeeds, a spear sprouts from the earth and impales the demon! Furthermore, stones rain down on Galan, crushing him! The one who came to Diane's aid is.... a proud warrior chief!?



Yeah, the ending of the summary is a bit vague there. Looks like the most popular speculation is that either Matrona or Dolores is still alive (I'd say the latter is a bit more likely since we never actually SAW her die.... all we had was Matrona's word on it). Though if the latter is true, then that leaves the question of how a peace-loving giant like her became a chief in the first place..... but I guess the circumstances can change quite a bit in over a decade.

[Wandering Soul]

Originally Posted by marvelB

That time of the week is here:

Spoiler for 127:

We're back to the main story! Mel's group chases after Diane with the help of mama piggy. Merlin isn't using her teleportation because she needs to save energy in case they run into enemies. Back to the Commandments, Fraudrin asks Galan if he truly finished off his opponents. Galan sets back off to make sure he finished the job, but this time he's accompanied by a fellow commandment named something like Monspeet (maybe Monspete?)....


It's not long before Diane encounters Galan! She tries to escape, having a bad premonition, but now she finds Monspeet standing in front of her, as well! Galan catches up with the giantess and strikes her, and Monspeet takes this opportunity to consume Diane's soul! However, before the enemy's plan succeeds, a spear sprouts from the earth and impales the demon! Furthermore, stones rain down on Galan, crushing him! The one who came to Diane's aid is.... a proud warrior chief!?



Yeah, the ending of the summary is a bit vague there. Looks like the most popular speculation is that either Matrona or Dolores is still alive (I'd say the latter is a bit more likely since we never actually SAW her die.... all we had was Matrona's word on it). Though if the latter is true, then that leaves the question of how a peace-loving giant like her became a chief in the first place..... but I guess the circumstances can change quite a bit in over a decade.

Spoiler for 127:

I have to say it is most likely Dolores too. We never saw a body of any sort and it would give Diane at least one person she knows back in the village.

[marvelB]

Translated chapter's out, but what the hey, I'll use spoiler tags post-translation just this once:

Spoiler for 127:

MATRONA'S ALIVE!!! Now, I know this is usually the type of situation where one would call BS on the author (and I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if some folks here did just that), but personally I'm real glad to see she's alive. Of course, I guess she could also be a slimmer Dolores, but I think the scars leave pretty much zero doubt as to who Diane's savior is. Of course, the possibility of Dolores' survival is still quite open as well, due to reasons mentioned in the last couple posts.

Oh, and it turns out the one accompanying Galan is the ass-girl's interpreter, lol.