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Kirarakim · 2013-05-03, 10:06

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Originally Posted by Shadow5YA

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Some comedy scenes would help you see Yamato act his age, but since the anime is omitting most of them and replacing them with Daichi being a joke in battle, I guess I'm going to have to echo the studio and Atlus' message to play the game

Well I am not going to play the game for various reasons so I will take your word on it.

kuromitsu · 2013-05-03, 10:19

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Originally Posted by Kirarakim

But IT is a plot point or they wouldn't have brought his age up in the first place. The fact that he is so young is part of his character.

I meant plot point as in "he can only do this because he's 17" or something. The most we got was whatshername being surprised that he was so young.

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Originally Posted by Kirarakim

And sure other anime characters might look and act older but this is extreme for me, especially when compared to the other characters within the same show he is in.

It's not that bad, though? I mean, he looks like this (from ep 2):

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He doesn't look particularly old for his age, he just has the overall impression of being older than he actually is due to his his uptightness, the outfit, his voice (which was the voice director's decision, as Suwabe is perfectly capable of sounding younger), and the bags(?) under his eyes. He's kind of like Vicious from Cowboy Bebop who is the same age as Spike, despite looking older due to his overall haggardness and dourness.

Kanon · 2013-05-03, 10:31

Episode 5 was probably the most interesting yet. Very nice build-up. I'm enjoying Yamato and Ronaldo's characters, who are seemingly complete opposites.

com_gwp · 2013-05-03, 10:32

Well, we're going completely off the rails now, but I like it. They're bringing in the whole 'JP's VS Ronaldo faction' in much punchier fashion.

Kirarakim · 2013-05-03, 11:03

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Originally Posted by kuromitsu

He's kind of like Vicious from Cowboy Bebop who is the same age as Spike, despite looking older due to his overall haggardness and dourness.

Vicious and Spike are in their late 20's which I can totally buy.

This guy being 17 not really! Just a difference of opinion but I think it is silly to make him 17 when he neither acts or looks it to me.

Haiprbim · 2013-05-03, 11:06

I'll put this On-Hold for now, but will certainly watch it.

Libros · 2013-05-03, 11:19

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Originally Posted by Kirarakim

Vicious and Spike are in their late 20's which I can totally buy.

This guy being 17 not really! Just a difference of opinion but I think it is silly to make him 17 when he neither acts or looks it to me.

He maybe should have been 22-24 but imo, it's kind of a really small detail to fuss over.

Polarpew · 2013-05-03, 11:50

so Kiritsugu is the insurgent leader, he sure isn't gonna get a TRAGIC end >.>

Dengar · 2013-05-03, 12:19

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Originally Posted by eiyuu99

So far we know Keita has Berserker, Ronaldo Hagen, Io Kikuri-Hime, Joe Orcus, Otome Sarasvati, Yamato Cerberus and Hibiki both Suzaku and Byakko.
I wonder when Daichi mans up, what demon he gets.

I have no idea, but seeing the type of character he is, I'm assuming some kind of hero. And by that I mean a character who was some kind of hero during their myth, not necessarily a Hero family.

Kirarakim · 2013-05-03, 13:19

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Originally Posted by Libros

He maybe should have been 22-24 but imo, it's kind of a really small detail to fuss over.

To me it is not a small detail because he doesn't look close to 17 at all. Also having your character as a teenager just to be a teenager (when nothing else fits) is pretty bothersome to me personally.

But I am only defending my point on a message board not saying the anime is ruined because of it.

Angelic Cross · 2013-05-03, 15:54

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Originally Posted by kuromitsu

I don't know the game but Byakko, Suzaku & Co. are pretty big names as far as mythological creatures go, so I don't think they're supposed to be common demons...

You've seen how in the previous episodes we've seen armies of Itsumades, Angels, and Jambavans being summoned? Imagine doing that with Byakko and Suzaku.

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Originally Posted by Polarpew

so Kiritsugu is the insurgent leader, he sure isn't gonna get a TRAGIC end >.>

It's Megami Tensei. Unless you're in the Persona or Last Bible sub-franchise, if you're leading a faction with extreme views *cough*likedirtycommunistsandelitistmeritocrats*co ugh* you're gonna get murdered by the MC (if they go middle-of-the-ground, don't-really-solve-the-underlying problems neutral path). It's a tradition in this franchise! I fully expect Hibiki to turn Yamato and Ronaldo into a bloody splatter by the end of this.

com_gwp · 2013-05-03, 17:35

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Originally Posted by Dengar

I have no idea, but seeing the type of character he is, I'm assuming some kind of hero. And by that I mean a character who was some kind of hero during their myth, not necessarily a Hero family.

Imagine if he got Neko Shogun. Oh, the hilarity that will ensue.

kuromitsu · 2013-05-03, 17:51

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Originally Posted by Kirarakim

Vicious and Spike are in their late 20's which I can totally buy.

This guy being 17 not really! Just a difference of opinion but I think it is silly to make him 17 when he neither acts or looks it to me.

I meant the general effect of seeming older than one actually is.

I do agree that he doesn't act like a typical 17 year-old, and he doesn't really come off as a teenager, but I don't think it's very extreme, and his behavior fits his character.

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Originally Posted by Angelic Cross

You've seen how in the previous episodes we've seen armies of Itsumades, Angels, and Jambavans being summoned? Imagine doing that with Byakko and Suzaku.

....an army of giant white tigers? *o*) Come on, Hibiki! Do it!

FlareKnight · 2013-05-03, 20:09

Yeah, things are going to probably go pretty bad next episode. Though the death video kind of made that clear from the first couple of minutes. Sadly while I agree a lot with Ronaldo you just know things are going to go badly. I'd certainly rather throw my lot in with the guy not going to sacrifice me at the drop of the hat, but those guys never seem to win

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Though will also say Nikaea has a very broad definition of friend. I'm not exactly sure that's how Hibiki and Yamato would currently define their relationship...

Angelic Cross · 2013-05-03, 21:59

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Originally Posted by kuromitsu

....an army of giant white tigers? *o*) Come on, Hibiki! Do it!

Dude has like, what was it, 655500 macca on hand? Hibiki could totally afford a few from the Devil Auction. Unless he totally sucks at bidding and that Suzaku was the only thing he managed to win.

Dr. Casey · 2013-05-03, 23:20

I have mixed feelings when it comes to the believability of Yamato. Physically, I think he looks closer to someone 10 years above his actual age; there just doesn't seem to be anything adolescent about him. His personality and mentality, though, I can accept. There's some cases where almost nothing about a person's behavior, mannerisms, or mindset betrays their actual age. They're rare (usually even a mature kid or teenager has things about them that traces them back to their actual age), but a person like Yamato is believable as a truly exceptional, prodigial, one-in-a-million kind of individual - especially given his very screwed up background.

The flashback to when he's five years old, though... yeah... no. I seriously doubt that a preschooler could be that hardened, mature, and poised. Even the greatest of leaders and most hardened of hardened criminals are childlike when they're five. I'll keep a slightly open mind in case his backstory somehow makes his being a forty year old in the body of a toddler justified, but I find it hard to imagine such a thing happening. >_>

At any rate, I enjoyed this episode quite a bit. The brighter and more colorful scenery was a nice change from the dark grittiness of previous episodes (where I found the palette of browns and grays rather boring), and Airi's a pretty fun and charming character.

Kimidori · 2013-05-04, 03:08

I find this describe the ending scene of this episode perfectly.

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That aside am I the only one amused by how fast Yamato went from "what friend you defective machine I don't make friends" to "oh hell no not my hibiki you don't" To think he of all people would go tsundere this early.

Dengar · 2013-05-04, 03:18

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there just doesn't seem to be anything adolescent about him.

He doesn't have a beard.

I know neither does anyone else, just saying.

Kimidori · 2013-05-04, 03:21

ep 6 preview

Dengar · 2013-05-04, 05:21

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2013-05-03, 10:31	Link #663
Kanon Kana Hanazawa ♥ Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: France Age: 37	Episode 5 was probably the most interesting yet. Very nice build-up. I'm enjoying Yamato and Ronaldo's characters, who are seemingly complete opposites. __________________

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Polarpew Bash'a no falor talah Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: New York USA Age: 33	so Kiritsugu is the insurgent leader, he sure isn't gonna get a TRAGIC end >.> __________________ Epicness

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FlareKnight User of the "Fast Draw" Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Canada	Yeah, things are going to probably go pretty bad next episode. Though the death video kind of made that clear from the first couple of minutes. Sadly while I agree a lot with Ronaldo you just know things are going to go badly. I'd certainly rather throw my lot in with the guy not going to sacrifice me at the drop of the hat, but those guys never seem to win . Though will also say Nikaea has a very broad definition of friend. I'm not exactly sure that's how Hibiki and Yamato would currently define their relationship... __________________ Anime-Evo

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Kimidori The Opened Ultimate Gate Join Date: Dec 2011 Age: 29	ep 6 preview <p>No iframe support, please <a href="http://youtu.be/QdrZUa5fQoc">watch on YouTube</a>.</p> __________________

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Dengar Kamen Rider Muppeteer Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Unknown Age: 39	Spoiler for reply to preview: Oh, Cait Sith, apparently. Airi's summon maybe? And also the next Septentrione. Looks like tuesday will end with coming episode.

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com_gwp Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2010	Well, we're going completely off the rails now, but I like it. They're bringing in the whole 'JP's VS Ronaldo faction' in much punchier fashion.

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Haiprbim Banned Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Visual Dream Panire	I'll put this On-Hold for now, but will certainly watch it.

2013-05-03, 23:20	Link #676
Dr. Casey Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Tennessee Age: 36	I have mixed feelings when it comes to the believability of Yamato. Physically, I think he looks closer to someone 10 years above his actual age; there just doesn't seem to be anything adolescent about him. His personality and mentality, though, I can accept. There's some cases where almost nothing about a person's behavior, mannerisms, or mindset betrays their actual age. They're rare (usually even a mature kid or teenager has things about them that traces them back to their actual age), but a person like Yamato is believable as a truly exceptional, prodigial, one-in-a-million kind of individual - especially given his very screwed up background. The flashback to when he's five years old, though... yeah... no. I seriously doubt that a preschooler could be that hardened, mature, and poised. Even the greatest of leaders and most hardened of hardened criminals are childlike when they're five. I'll keep a slightly open mind in case his backstory somehow makes his being a forty year old in the body of a toddler justified, but I find it hard to imagine such a thing happening. >_> At any rate, I enjoyed this episode quite a bit. The brighter and more colorful scenery was a nice change from the dark grittiness of previous episodes (where I found the palette of browns and grays rather boring), and Airi's a pretty fun and charming character.