2013-01-21, 19:04 | Link #3621 |
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I think the issue was something along the lines of "unless you spend time farming for gear in Hell mode or buy stuff off the AH, you cannot play Inferno mode because you will die on the first creature you enounter".
At least that was what I was told by a player. He had to run Hell mode four times through to get enough gear to not be instantly killed in Inferno mode. Mostly because of the random chance on gear stats. You might get a rare item you can use, that has absolutely worthless stats because it was entirely randomly generated. Something like a weapon that increases a stat but does no damage, or does only damage and gives no stat bonuses.
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2013-01-21, 19:09 | Link #3622 | |||||
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The key difference between Diablo 3 and its previous incarnations is that characters are too dependent on gear and even baseline gear is a pain to find. Deal with these two issues and there are no issues. Who the hell cares if people have better. People in D2 ran around in duped Enigmas or whatnot, but I was having fun clearing hardcore in hell mode with about 8-10 characters. My gear was mostly functional... Quote:
The D3 economy works perfectly, although hacks and bots have hurt it. But what major online game doesn't suffer from that? If people recognize the currency, it works. D2 gold was worthless because it had no value or use beyond a few things, and thus nobody used it. So in a sense, D3 gold > D2 gold. In any case, Guild Wars 2 Trading Post is an example of a Diablo similar AH working extremely well. Quote:
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2013-01-29, 01:54 | Link #3623 |
Logician and Romantic
Join Date: Nov 2004
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Funny that, now that I am stuck in limbo with gear good enough to get by, but any upgrade would now cost tens of millions, I am turning into a scrap metal merchant.
Diablo 3 is doing a good job of making me feel poor.
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2013-01-29, 01:56 | Link #3624 |
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Tens of millions? You in some baller gear right now? Quite sure upgrades to mine wouldn't take that much and I am like, totally awesome and shit (Carried Mp6 ubers while forgetting to select the correct passives)
I know what you're talking about but I don't think you'd be at that point yet, though you might want to drop your battle tag or profile or something.
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2013-01-29, 02:05 | Link #3625 | |
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Barbarian Gear is more expensive than other classes because they are more in demand. And anyway I am currently a Throw Barb. Getting half a million gold per act 3 run while with Goldskin. Takes about 45min if I pay attention. Still waiting on getting the set body armour for the Barbarian. Otherwise there really isn't much else I can find that aren't 10 million. So I am looking to gear up my Monk. The Monk's gear is only half finished, I am currently ONLY playing Barb. p.s. Maximus for my Enchantress was the best purchase I ever made. A demon that takes aggro and is invincible for 15 seconds. p.s.s Also, I ended up with 4 pairs of Firewalkers in one night of play. RNG sure is silly. My Barb Amulet was actually a real drop as I couldn't have afforded it on the market, but as you might notice it has no strength stat.
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2013-01-29, 02:39 | Link #3626 |
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Not bad. I'd assume your offhand +skills help a lot. Maximus makes Enchantress a true powerhouse. My Monk has it too with a hellfire ring and it is sorta cool
Still, there are some reasonable upgrades that you can still get. Bracers are okay, but you might do better with Strongarm. Shoulders are a bit weak, so look for a lower vile ward. Pants are fine, but could see a modest upgrade too. Also personally, I'd go with a topaz for more MF in the helm. Though certainly more gold find with an emerald is viable too. Personally, I'd never gold find again, as it is boring and you really need pickup radius to be worth a damn. You can't really gold find effectively if you have to run all over the place with it. Though your complaint is still sound... "Can Collector 3" is what it often feels like.
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2013-01-29, 02:57 | Link #3627 |
Logician and Romantic
Join Date: Nov 2004
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My gear is probably going to be as good as it gets for a casual gamer like me. I couldn't do more than 1 act 3 run in one setting, I get bored.
I tried looking for a vile ward, but every one that isn't a downgrade still costs several million. As for gold find? The good news is that the default pickup radius is increasing slightly from next patch. So that's hurrah on that front for me. The gem in my helm is for the health % increase. I am not that good of a gamer so I needed the extra buffer, or I would still die without responding in time to danger.
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2013-01-29, 03:09 | Link #3628 |
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Oh yea, I was never able to "grind" either.
Depends on what you mean by downgrade. All resist > Life for the most part, since potions don't scale well with more health. Even if they increase it having pickup radius will help a lot. When you farm, you want to blaze through stuff. Aka, not stop for anything that isn't gold and yellow. (And arguably just gold). But in the end, this is why I dropped the goldskin. Farming gold is just too boring and it seems to be better to just aim for the jackpot. (Go kill the keywardens-- they drop well with 5 stacks) As for the helm in the gem, fair enough. Replace it when you have more confidence. I used a purple gem for the longest time and still do for ubers. Though my monk is built like a brick-- yea, hooray for me and the 3 other idiots that still use shields.
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2013-01-29, 06:38 | Link #3630 |
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That's sort of why I still use my old shoulders. I plugged the stats into the search list and everything that was "better" was several million in price more than I was prepared to pay.
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2013-01-29, 14:23 | Link #3632 | ||
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Though they're not usually as well rounded. It would be hard to compete with the life regeneration and mitigation the ward gives especially at the lower price ranges. Life sustain is generally more important than raw EHP, though barbs generally have no issues with sustain I suppose. Quote:
I did take a look and noted things are more expensive now though (It would take 20 million to upgrade my bracers slightly, but it's not too bad considering I've been spending on 7 dight upgrades forever), but I consider these two shoulders to be better, and bracers... well I guess if you really need to gear for survivability. IMO though, not having crit on bracers holds you back... i'd rather compensate on survivability elsewhere. The first one is a slight upgrade, but has MF. The second one is an upgrade, mostly with DPS in mind. Both increase EHP by small amounts but since HP is less and mitigation is more, that potions have a greater effect, making everything that doesn't one shot you infinitely more easy to deal with. My tip to you is to avoid hitting home runs when it comes to anything but godly gear. Certainly, when you reach the 9 digit range, that you should be picky. But us peasants have to pick and choose, and so an upgrade cannot possibly be found just by using the "similar items" feature without compromising a bit. There was a long lull when I was stuck at 35k unbuffed dps because I didn't want to sacrifice any survivability. So I eventually did gear offensively and while my EHP isn't as high as before, I am a lot more well rounded. Still going down from world 4500 to world #11000 in EHP on Diabloprogress (which doesn't factor in One with Everything) and not using a purple gem isn't too bad considering my stuff isn't worth billions and also most high EHP toons don't seem to be able to kill anything anyways. I will have to admit that I am extremely reckless with tossing away gold for incremental upgrades. Might have been godly if I were patient but at the same time, I've never been too worried about making the enemies pop out stuff I want, post 1.04 that is. Anyhow, to put things in perspective, very few people have picked up 100 million gold in all their time of playing. This is even factoring gold find, so I just think it's really not the way to go if one wants to really go far. When you're struggling with repair bills and need to buy cheap upgrades from the AH, then gold find is a boon. Basically, I think you've outgrown it, and whether or not this is a flaw in the game is up to debate. It most likely is though. You can blame Blizzard for failing to stop botting in which those bots drive up gold prices. Gold find makes you slave to the AH. Magic Find does too, but not only does it give a better chance to quickly boost earnings, it also lets you find your own things.
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2013-01-29, 16:17 | Link #3633 |
大巧不工
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For barb shoulders I usually look for
>230str >60vit >60 Resist all >40 Physical resist AND/OR %life (most magic spells don't outright kill you once you have the DPS and %life, reflect damage does and its physical) Optionals: Armor (10 armor = 1 resists all, 1 str = 1 armor, 10 int = 1 resist all, thus: 10 armor = 1 RA = 1 str = 1 int) Pickup radius MF (important at lower PLs) |
2013-01-29, 19:52 | Link #3634 |
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Well 10:1 res:armor is the theory though in practice resistance comes in much larger quantities. You're not going to see much armor with 600 armor bonus.
Furthermore since barbs have naturally higher strength and armor, it's generally more beneficial to get resists, it's much easier to increase whatever is lower by w/e % then it is for whatever is bigger. Also, I understand it's under testing, but no player pvp dmg penalty? lol
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2013-02-21, 09:46 | Link #3637 | |
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It isn't about "PC master race", it is that we have a game that has its controls cut down in order to make sure the Console can handle it. The same way Skyrim's interface was messed up without the mods.
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2013-02-21, 15:15 | Link #3638 |
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Yep, instead of coming up with a good interface and figuring a way to port to consoles, they just decided to give us the stripped down interface. I love console gameplay, but really, you can't fit two things with the same thing. The fact that certain things are REGRESSIONS (No weapon swap) from d2 makes matters worse.
Thanks for reminding me why I won't be buying on of their products any time soon.
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2013-02-21, 19:45 | Link #3639 | |
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2013-02-21, 23:36 | Link #3640 |
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The console port may have something to do with D3's simplistic control.
Simplistic control = limited gameplay options such as on-demand gearswap and more complicated spells. Spamming the same few buttons over and over is not exactly fun. There is D3's brainless buttonmashing, then there is reactive skill usage (cooldowns). Mobs in D3 are also very plain which discourage certain CC skills or single target oriented skills to be part of the standard toolkit. WoW might be an "old" game and a boring one for many which is not worth the subs, but its combat system is sophisticated enough to leave other RPGs feel very dumb. What if, say, wizard can lay down firewalls/seas of fire and have a skill that makes enemies standing in fire/is ignited explode? "Synergy from between skills" was shifted to synergy with gear. Die hard D2 fans wonder why we do not have a system similar to D2: but in this day and age spamming a single skill over and over (blessed hammer!) isn't going to cut it. Another issue: When SC2 came out bnet 2.0 received a lot of complaints. D3 managed to one up them by having a shittier interface and social options and they had a good year to learn from the sc2 bnet experience. |
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