Mahouka Koukou no Rettousei LN - Anime Comparison & Speculation

[niffum]

Originally Posted by mike211

Are you saying they might be covering 8 volumes. If that the case, I hope they do a good job with 26 eps.

It's probably do-able since volume 5 is mostly short stories, most of which can probably be skipped over. And large swathes of volume 7 are action scenes that won't exactly take up huge amounts of time. I am still a bit dubious about them being able to do the novels justice if they do decide cram in volume 8, but given episode 1's first scene, it would be really jarring if they didn't cover the Reminiscence arc.

[@GEMC]

Madhouse is always good in composing music background in their anime production especially in the important scenes

[Nightengale]

Originally Posted by Gundamx

as long as it didn't become 1 episode per volume I am happy

Let's not set standards too low.

Of course it differs from book to book, and the kind of content inside, but I've always thought that 4 episodes minimum to adapt a single average length volume seems like the right mix.

There's adaptions that push the scope of their adaption further than even the source material as done by KyoAni several times ( Haruhi stretched their single volume adaption through timeline shifting and mini-stories, FMP and Chuunibyou added content to pad and add, etc ), but I don't see many stories that can do it in less than 4 episodes well.

Granted, Mahouka's story approach is one-arc told in 2 volumes, so there's a lot more window to stretch here and there.

[Ultragunner]

the 1st episode covers up to the later half of chapter 2 vol 1, so I expect vol 1 will take up to 3-4 episodes.

Episode 2 would probably end with the fight against Hattori, then episode 3 would stop at Tatsuya owning Kirihara and his club . At this rate, the Enrolment Arc would climax at episode 6 (or 7, or 8), not really bad considering the first arc is nowhere exciting and convoluted as the others. Madhouse can leave some room and focus on the Nine School Competition and the Yokohama, this I have no problem at all

[BW95]

Originally Posted by HandofFate

Only thing that really felt weird to me was when Tatsuya encountered Mizuki and learned about her sensitive eyesight. In the LN, he kind of tried to misdirect attention from it to her being self-conscious of her eyesight.

But in the anime, they made it seem much more sinister, like he was planning to kill her right there or something. Threw me for a loop.

The manga made him seem sinister too. Remember the part where Morisaki claimed he didn't show him his true strength and Tatsuya thought there wouldn't be a next time? I think one of the shortcomings with the LN is that it sometimes fail to properly convey the tone when Tatsuya's serious.

Spoiler for Manga:

Originally Posted by questmas

After reading this thread, I had to go back and watch the OP 5 times just find everything everyone was talking about. I can't believe how many spoilers are in the OP....

Anyway, how much of the story do you think the anime will cover? I can see it covering up to yokohama with reminiscence as flashbacks. In fact, i feel like reminiscence won't make much sense without yokohama.

Of course there are going to be spoilers in the OP. Don't they always show antagonists and future characters there?

Originally Posted by Galacticichi

Everyone is a weed!

OMFG! MADHOUSE get your head out of your ass! But this wasn't there first mistake. Look at the world map in the beginning and notice East EU and West EU.

Originally Posted by mike211

I just watch the 1st eps of Mahouka and I think it was a great eps.
Only a minor stuff was left out and it seem to follow the LN quite well and hopefully it wouls continue doing so.

By the look of the end credit, the anime would do the first 2 arc (Enrollment and Nine Schools Competition) which is 4 volumes in 26 eps. Let hope that is enough and they don't screw it up.

Well, since the anime hype me up I guess I have to re-read the LN.

They're probably going to do another opening or at least change the visuals. From what I can tell from the first episode, We should wrap up the enrollment arc in 6-8 episodes.

Originally Posted by Verisimilitude

You know guys, it's only taken 1 episode for some people in the anime thread to say Gary Stu. What the heck was in the 1st episode that even made Tatsuya seem like a Gary Stu anway?

You can't really blame them. To anime-only viewers, Tatsuya's aloof, indifferent, but confident demeanor would strike others as sort of Gary Stu, but every series demands a leap of faith on the viewers' part.

Originally Posted by IceHism

Some people i come across have already started to drop to the anime after seeing that the first episode was slow....

oh my...., usually i would say "don't judge a book by its cover"
but..... that's pretty sad.


also, they think this is gonna be full of harem, and incest... oh little do they know.

Well, that is their God-given right to remain stupid.

[Echizen777]

Originally Posted by BW95

You can't really blame them. To anime-only viewers, Tatsuya's aloof, indifferent, but confident demeanor would strike others as sort of Gary Stu, but every series demands a leap of faith on the viewers' part.
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That's impossible to consider him as a Stu for an anime-only viewer who knows absolutely nothing of the LN. They are people who read some LN posts and are trying to annoy the fandom. What did he do who puts him in GS department?

[Verisimilitude]

Originally Posted by Echizen777

That's impossible to consider him as a Stu for an anime-only viewer who knows absolutely nothing of the LN. They are people who read some LN posts and are trying to annoy the fandom. What did he do who puts him in GS department?

Exactly. There's nothing in this episode to even suggest that Tatsuya is a Gary Stu (even the term is retarded.)

[BW95]

Originally Posted by Echizen777

That's impossible to consider him as a Stu for an anime-only viewer who knows absolutely nothing of the LN. They are people who read some LN posts and are trying to annoy the fandom. What did he do who puts him in GS department?

Is it? It's clear even to an anime-only viewer that Tatsuya is hiding something. He's good at martial arts, he super smart as Miyuki testified, and he's got some sort of hidden power if his blowing up that ship was anything to go by.

[Lucarion]

Originally Posted by Verisimilitude

Exactly. There's nothing in this episode to even suggest that Tatsuya is a Gary Stu (even the term is retarded.)

I agree 100% with this statement. "Gary Stu" needs to die.

[Lazy cat]

Originally Posted by Echizen777

That's impossible to consider him as a Stu for an anime-only viewer who knows absolutely nothing of the LN. They are people who read some LN posts and are trying to annoy the fandom. What did he do who puts him in GS department?

material burst ? is the only posibility i can think, but even so calling him a gary stu with 20 seonds of anime is totaly overkill and prejudgement, it only shows that they have a formed opinion even before giving the anime a chance

for the people who said the pace of the anime is slow... well i can't realy blame then, the first arc is slow

[Ultraviolet X]

Just watched the first ep of Mahouka, it was nice, but then again I had low expectations because of what was done to Mahou Sensou. I am a bit put off by the voices of Miyuki and Mayumi though they seem abit off to me. It was slow paced, but thats fine, and they seem to have put in the right amount of information in without it seeming to much, just all the relevant parts.

Originally Posted by Lucarion

I agree 100% with this statement. "Gary Stu" needs to die.

The definition is fine, the problem is that people have been misunderstanding the definition.

Originally Posted by Verisimilitude

Exactly. There's nothing in this episode to even suggest that Tatsuya is a Gary Stu (even the term is retarded.)

Theres everything to suggest that he is, all the little things dropped in the first ep do hint at this. Its only the first ep though, as the anime progresses it might become more clear that hes not.

[Regen]

Hello everyone. I am just someone passing by. Just want to point out in OP when tatsuya facing ichijou, tatsuya still wearing second course uniform. In LN he wear course one uniform (with emblem) because Nine School Competition is nation wide event.

[Ultraviolet X]

Originally Posted by Lazy cat

material burst ? is the only posibility i can think, but even so calling him a gary stu with 20 seonds of anime is totaly overkill and prejudgement, it only shows that they have a formed opinion even before giving the anime a chance

Its not just material burst. He's picked up some friends fast, and as BW95 has pointed out, he's good at martial arts, he is super smart, and he's got some hidden powers. If I was an anime only viewer, judging from the ep I would think Tatsuya might be a Gary stu. As the anime progresses, it should become clear that he isn't. It's not like being a stu is actually a bad thing anyways, I can think of a few popular shows/animes where the lead is a stu/sue.

On a side note, im really interested in how Madhouse portrays Miyuki later on. Depending on how they do her, she might be seen as a Mary sue or whatever there called these days.

Originally Posted by Regen

Hello everyone. I am just someone passing by. Just want to point out in OP when tatsuya facing ichijou, tatsuya still wearing second course uniform. In LN he wear course one uniform (with emblem) because Nine School Competition is nation wide event.

Thanks for pointing that out, didn't even notice till you mentioned it. Well, its not like this is the first mistake they have done.

[Rasen]

Originally Posted by Ultraviolet X

On a side note, im really interested in how Madhouse portrays Miyuki later on. Depending on how they do her, she might be seen as a mary stu or whatever the female equivalent of stu is called these days.

....

Mary Sue.

The term started with a female character. Then the "male equivalent" came out later.

[Lazy cat]

Originally Posted by Regen

Hello everyone. I am just someone passing by. Just want to point out in OP when tatsuya facing ichijou, tatsuya still wearing second course uniform. In LN he wear course one uniform (with emblem) because Nine School Competition is nation wide event.

they migth have done so to not cause further confusion on the anime only viewers, wich is very prudent considering the many persons who seem to be confused with the ep1.

[Ultraviolet X]

Originally Posted by Rasen

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Mary Sue.

The term started with a female character. Then the "male equivalent" came out later.

Im aware. But the first male equivilent was called "Marty-Stu" and now it seems to have changed to Gary stu. Likewise, at first the term was meant to describe an impossibly perfect character in the fictional setting, but now carries a second generalized meaning of an inserted wish fullfilment character.

[Galacticichi]

Originally Posted by Ultraviolet X

Its not just material burst. He's picked up some friends fast, and as BW95 has pointed out, he's good at martial arts, he is super smart, and he's got some hidden powers. If I was an anime only viewer, judging from the ep I would think Tatsuya might be a Gary stu. As the anime progresses, it should become clear that he isn't. It's not like being a stu is actually a bad thing anyways, I can think of a few popular shows/animes where the lead is a stu/sue.

If anyone thinks that he is a stu right now, then they will firmly believe so later on as the whole 9SC is seniors and classmates remarking about how amazing Tatsuya is. I just don't believe that later events won't support that thinking, but enough about stus!

In regards to episodes, I think they will be uneven. It won't be clean cut 3 episodes each or even 4 episodes each since they will try and show the most important things. We can all agree there's a disparity between important events throughout 7 volumes

[babbo3d]

they ruined it that was awful.

[anonfr]

Originally Posted by mike211

Are you saying they might be covering 8 volumes. If that the case, I hope they do a good job with 26 eps.

No I'm saying episodes 1-12 will probably cover 3 volumes at the very least. Probably like 3 1/2 though. I can see the 9SC ending at episode 14-15. hmm.

@ultraviolet you actually had a typo error when you said Mary Stu instead of Marty Stu I think.

[IceHism]

I don't believe that it will be too hard to incorporate volume 8 into the series. It could just be a bunch of flashbacks scattered throughout all the episodes, maybe preferably at the beginning like they did with the okinawa attack and material burst. and then after the material burst at yokohama, they could end the 1st season with them visiting their aunt. To anime only viewers, this is really probably really good because the Yotsuba family is pretty much hinted to be the final boss and it will raise a lot of questions

I don't know how much side stories will be put in from volume 5 but i am certain that at least summer break and the student council election will be in.

I feel that the priority placed on different arcs will be different for each. They will try to minimalize the amount of episodes put into enrollment arc and put more into 9 schools and Yokohama.