2020 US Presidential Election Discussion (primary & general)

[The Green One]

Well they do kind of do this for a living. Years of public speaking shows.

[Johnny Dy]

Be that as it may, I feel more comfortable with Trump's performance of looking at the piece of paper in front of him every 20 seconds and speaking something else as he doesn't remember exactly what he just read. Feels more real to me.

[cyberdemon]

Originally Posted by The Green One

Makes you wonder if they're going to let people mail in vote like this from now on.

There is a good chance. They just need to set up reasonable rules and regulations. Like allowing states to count the votes a week before the election. Not defunding the usps so it can’t delivery on time. This would allow them to set hard limits on late arriving votes. Sad fact is that we could’ve had the fastest call in presidential history but they refused to set proper regulations.

The one thing that sucks about this announcement today is that I live roughly 30 minutes from Wilmington Delaware. But because my job had me work till 8, I wasn’t able to go see Bidens speech.

[Sheba]

Over 70 millions of people looked at those past 4 years and decided they were fine with 4 more years of that. This is one of the mindboggling things about this election.

[Galaxian]

Now I wonder, what will Republican candidates do in two years during the the midterms. Seek Trump's endorsement or distant themselves. I fear the former.

[GDB]

His base, as of now, still loves him. They will court his endorsement as long as he isn't in jail.

[Guardian Enzo]

Originally Posted by The Green One

Makes you wonder if they're going to let people mail in vote like this from now on.

Many states have been doing so for years with excellent results. The problem is the GOP is fundamentally against any change which results in more people voting. If the Ds do somehow manage to scrape two wins in GA, you could conceivably see some sort of national election reform bill. If not, zero chance.

[The Green One]

Originally Posted by Sheba

Over 70 millions of people looked at those past 4 years and decided they were fine with 4 more years of that. This is one of the mindboggling things about this election.

Not necessarily, I mean sure his base loves him and will happily eat out of his hand on command, but there are plenty of others who just deeply disagree with Democrat views on a fundamental level. They may not necessarily like Trump or even agree with him but simply cannot and will not view Democrat on certain issues and this is not something they're willing to compromise on. They may just simply decide that they want the Republican way of doing things and if Trump is the only way to get it for the next four years then that is a price they're willing to accept. Of course there are still others who are extremists who may not care about Trump in any real capacity but like his behavior as they feel it allows them to express their own different vies. For better or for worse.

Not all of those 70 million are Trump's more passionate followers. What the actual number is, your guess is as good as mine, but lets not all tar them with the same brush.

[Key Board]

Don’t throw Trump in jail yet. Let him make a third party, which I think, he will do if he thinks Fox and the GOP betrayed him

Than we we will see how much votes he takes away from the GOP

[GDB]

Originally Posted by Key Board

Don’t throw Trump in jail yet. Let him make a third party, which I think, he will do if he thinks Fox and the GOP betrayed him

Than we we will see how much votes he takes away from the GOP

**** that. Don't play political games at the expense of justice. That's how the GOP operates and if the DNC ignores everything Trump and the GOP did then there's no hope for anything.

[n0m@n]

Well, there was atleast one incident where there was a fraud vote.
https://twitter.com/fleccas/status/1324216584219623424

[OH&S]

Originally Posted by n0m@n

Well, there was atleast one incident where there was a fraud vote.
https://twitter.com/fleccas/status/1324216584219623424

Take this from someone guilty of pedaling bullshit in this thread: Stop pedaling bullshit.

Here is the ultimate source for debunking every claim of electoral fraud thrown around during this prolonged election count.

Your example is the second claim debunked. [source]

[Jaden]

So technically he's not wrong. The dead person did vote. But according to the state, it doesn't count when dead people vote.

My suspicion is that dead people vote in just about every US election. It's one of those things that cuts both ways and can't make that much of a difference though.

From back when the media was relatively honest:
https://www.politico.com/story/2012/...r-rolls-076443
https://www.npr.org/2012/02/14/14682...stered-to-vote
https://www.phillymag.com/news/2012/...-philadelphia/

[cyberdemon]

Originally Posted by n0m@n

Well, there was atleast one incident where there was a fraud vote.
https://twitter.com/fleccas/status/1324216584219623424

That isn’t the case. The vote was by a William Bradley jr. The one listed is his father and only the son voted. They already verified this fact

[AC-Phoenix]

Have Georgia and Arizona still not called their results, or did the NYT just stop their counter after biden reached 279?

[mangamuscle]

As a sad side comment, want to know who are Trump allies? This is a list of the heads of state that have yet to call Biden to congratulate him for his win:

Vladimir Putin (Russia)
AMLO (Mexico)
Jair Bolsonaro (Brasil)
Daniel Ortega (Nicaragua)
Miguel Díaz-Canel (Cuba)

... even Boris Johnson (UK), the other half of the dumb and dumber comedy duo has already called Biden.

[Guardian Enzo]

Originally Posted by AC-Phoenix

Have Georgia and Arizona still not called their results, or did the NYT just stop their counter after biden reached 279?

Georgia is close enough to go to a recount and won't be called until after. Fox and AP have already called AZ and have not retracted it, though the others have chosen not to follow suit.

[Sheba]

I hope Kamala Harris can endure what will come to her and be as tough as Thatcher. Our only female French PM, Edith Cresson, only held less than 1 year. I know for sure that Fox, Breitbart and conservative medias will be ruthless.

[mangamuscle]

Originally Posted by Sheba

I hope Kamala Harris can endure what will come to her and be as tough as Thatcher. Our only female French PM, Edith Cresson, only held less than 1 year. I know for sure that Fox, Breitbart and conservative medias will be ruthless.

There is a reason, Kamala Harria aka a woman of color, is atm the gop natural enemy for 2024:

https://www.reddit.com/r/neoliberal/...if_only_voted/

[The Green One]

Originally Posted by AC-Phoenix

Have Georgia and Arizona still not called their results, or did the NYT just stop their counter after biden reached 279?

All votes are being counted, it just takes time to finish and they're just not giving it round the clock coverage now that the election has been called. They will finish. They're legally required to.