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View Poll Results: Code Geass R2 - Episode 23 Rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 138 | 36.22% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 84 | 22.05% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 50 | 13.12% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 38 | 9.97% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 27 | 7.09% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 14 | 3.67% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 4 | 1.05% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 4 | 1.05% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 2 | 0.52% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 20 | 5.25% | |
Voters: 381. You may not vote on this poll |
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2008-09-15, 16:36 | Link #961 | ||
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It's not about Pendragon itself. It's about what it reveals about Schneizel. If they truly think Lelouch is their biggest problem, then they're thinking short term. As world leaders, they should think ahead a little bit and realize they're next. Heck, didn't they see that pattern with Lelouch already? Britania, and then, the world! They should also remember that, while Lelouch is the evil bastard who uses Geass, Schneizel is the evil bastard who uses Fleia on civilian population centers.
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Also, I read in your blog you think Schneizel wants everlasting world peace, and that's why all the sacrifices are justified. Maybe you're right, but if so, he's deluded. If, despite the Britanian conquests, he hasn't heard of asymmetric warfare yet, he will. And then what? Destroy the world to save it? |
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2008-09-15, 16:49 | Link #962 |
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Well this was quite the interesting episode…Lulu and Schniezel finally got a chance to REALLY play chess…Good for them (Lots of illegal moves it seemed too^^)For the most part it wasn’t that bad…I mean it obviously could have been better, but unfortunately the pace of this series since the mid-way point has been such that it doesn’t allow for one great climax, just a lot of mini-orgasms if one at all…
To think at about episode 14 my biggest complaint about this series was that it was telling the story at too slow and arbitrary a pace…I mean I thought the showdown with V.V. or Charles could have been the endgame of this series and I would have been fine with that, but they both seem like that neighborhood dog that ran outta your backyard that 1 time never to be seen again…This might be the first series I ever watched where I got TOO MUCH of what I wanted to the point of straight-up bewilderment….This series seems like it ended already and all that’s left is the technicality of wrapping it up while figuring out what plot-points and character progressions to scrap…Expect heavy flashback, foreshadow, character clean-up scenes like the one with Ougi in the next 2 episodes… Now I don’t know if the creator’s goal was a 3rd season or not, but I wish they could have just focused on Charles in the end and saved the rest for a new manga or something because we’re gonna end-up having yet another rushed last 2 episodes of a Sunrise show and that’s a damn shame this time around when the story could have easily been fleshed out if they had started the beginning of the season seriously instead of playing around… I mean you can’t even enjoy Lulu as emperor for a few eps cause it’s already the next next stage every 5 mins…As for this episode it just feels like they played every climax card in the book, which made something like Cornelia’s death (?) just seem like someone flipping thru pages…The death of Xing Ke’s moe or the rest of those nation-heads? Did anyone honestly care? Because the focus is on so much $hit and little to no time to work with the ability to create one really good scene vs. the millions of other scenes... It just isn’t prudent anymore… Schniezel’s Mask wound up being very cliché and the fact that we now officially see this makes the depth of Schniezel’s character even more in question...As I watch him face off with Lulu I couldn’t help but thinking who the hell is this guy? Does he truly deserve to be the endboss of this series over Charles, V.V., C.C., or Suzaku? Is his relationship to Lulu superseded all others in a great awaited showdown? And in the end my answer is, “no”…And that’s why in the end this show will fail a bit…It’s unfortunate, but the climax came in ep 21…Who here is ready to say Schniezel is the best antagonist to end this epic story? Damn Sunrise you were so close for once, but now you end up having something very comparable to GSD in the end (Obviously better along the way and without a perfect victory, but with the sense that the series won't accomplish what you could easily see it could have or intended too--Plus rushed again)… Finally I could have sworn there was an ep that said the double-eye Geass gives you some more l33t skills...So why does Lulu's Geass still seem basic? Anyways 7 outta 10 for this episode, because I did really enjoy the whole set-up for the battle, but probably being too generous with that score… Sidebar: I find it shocking and awesome that Suzaku has now become GSD’s Kira and Shinn combined to create one character^^…Understaded Nobility and Headstrong Stupidity all rolled into one…
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2008-09-15, 16:52 | Link #963 | |
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Think about this. Schneizel told the Order nothing but the truth prior to the battle with Lelouch, while Lelouch had admitted to the Order that he was using them as pawns, that all of this is simply a game for him, and is holding ransom all of the leaders of their nation. In their eye's, Lelouch is the most dangerous enemy they must face now.
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2008-09-15, 16:56 | Link #964 | |
TRUE! Lelouch is dead! XD
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I also think he has some infatuation with crushing Lelouch for some unknown reason at the moment. His talk with Cornelia in 23 seems to show that he can't STAND Lelouch and how he does things and he really thinks his way is better (when it really isn't.) We know his goal, but now we need a motivation to go with it. I expect a freaking Flashback next episode explaining this. We got one from Lelouch, C.C., Charles, and Suzaku. So I think it should be nice to see what is motivating Schneizel.... Sunrise better not give us nothing though... Or I will be really underwhelmed. |
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2008-09-15, 16:58 | Link #965 | |||
I disagree with you all.
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Well, I haven't excluded the possibility that Schneizel is, in fact, deluded. |
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2008-09-15, 17:02 | Link #966 | ||
TRUE! Lelouch is dead! XD
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2008-09-15, 17:08 | Link #967 | ||
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Lelouch never thought to use his Geass as a slave-maker before this because of plot purposes. Lelouch wasn;t worried about getting emotionally close to them; he was worried about them bugging him on his cell phone and potentially making it easier for Britannia to find him. And that other group was used with Cornelia simply because they were already in the ghetto. And as a general statement since everyone else is repating the same thing or just putting words in my mouth: I'm not saying that Lelouch is in the wrong for wanting to crush the order. I am saying they weren't in the wrong for wanting to toss him. He would do the same to them at the drop of a hat, and in fact did at the end of S1. He's lucky the plot had them take him back with no questions addressed after he basically abandoned them at the most important of times and only had the explanation of "lol so wut?" This is why there's no reason to hate the Order for what they've done unless you're just that blind of a Lelouch fanatic. It was a long time coming, and Lelouch created the situation himself. On Schneizel: Quote:
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2008-09-15, 17:08 | Link #968 | ||
I disagree with you all.
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2008-09-15, 17:15 | Link #971 |
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I didn't care for him much at first but now I just hate him. He makes a terrible villian in my opinion and almost seems like his his current character demenor is different than before. Kind of like his character was suddenly changed to fit a stereotypical villian role.
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2008-09-15, 17:20 | Link #973 | |
TRUE! Lelouch is dead! XD
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Besides, he isn't stereotypical... at least not yet. We still don't know his motivation for all this. Something must have pushed him to such extreme measures, and we will hopefully learn them next episode (in what better be flashback scenes... if we can get that with Charles, Lelouch, C.C., and Suzaku, then it would be fair for the final antagonist too...) And his demeanor hasn't changed either. He is still... well, Schneizel. He just knows how to spin people to work for him because, really, he is good with words. Like his brother. That rally the troops speech right before the battle is proof of that. |
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2008-09-15, 17:21 | Link #974 |
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LOL...I'm still waiting for The DESTINY PLAN sign-up sheet to arrive at my house...That's like so much more acceptable than say a Genesis or a FEJITA, I mean FLEJIA^^...Wow the Desinty Plan pwns Schinzel, Charles, and Lulu's prospect of changing the world...Dully's plan actually gave society somewhat of a choice over just sheer arrogance to remake the world...
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2008-09-15, 18:04 | Link #976 | |
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2008-09-15, 18:06 | Link #977 |
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I think that Schnizel and Lelouch are like the exact opposites
Schnizel is much more deranged than Lelouch, but he seems rational and everybody trusts him Lelouch however, is probably normal but he just pushes everybody who actually care for him away |
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2008-09-15, 18:17 | Link #979 | |
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Still trust me, it's more complex then that with him. He has an obvious agenda in being a villainous character, but he also seems to have hidden ones. He's not wearing his emotions and feelings on his sleeve like most of the other characters, but it slips out every now and then. He's pretty much always been like this. |
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2008-09-15, 18:25 | Link #980 | ||
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Anyway, i'd should get over all of those Rolo issues that i was upset about last time (yeah, He's already dead. We've not gonna need him anymore.) But Where's Milly & Rivalz Gone too now? Quote:
To me, that makes me kinda gay to me when i look on his cute face between suzaku. Last edited by Jeffry2009; 2008-09-15 at 18:30. Reason: This is all about sheizel. |
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