Sword Art Online - Episode 10 Discussion / Poll

[jcdietz03]

Maybe they are rushing. But as long as they rush, it's guaranteed something interesting is going to happen during the episode. Probably more than one interesting thing.

In this ep you have:
1) The duel. So the player whose HP reaches "yellow" level (49% of MHP or less) first loses? Pretty cool anyway. Around 5 min. spent on this.
2) Then you have the training session with Kuradeel and Godfrey. 10 minutes spent on this, the meat of the episode.
3) The fanservice scenes at the end.

All really good stuff! Can't wait for next week.

[grylsyjaeger]

I'm pretty sure the rule for the duel was First Strike.

I imagine the first player to score an actual hit, not a glancing blow would win.

[Karakuri]

Originally Posted by grylsyjaeger

I'm pretty sure the rule for the duel was First Strike.

I imagine the first player to score an actual hit, not a glancing blow would win.

Yes, it was First Strike.
And if it weren't, the duel wouldn't have ended to fast. One single blow wouldn't take Kirito's HP to half. Unless he had some god-like powers, because even a Boss couldn't do that to him - Because of his high HP, etc.

[Dengar]

Guys guys, why are people making such a big deal out of it anyways. Does it even matter whether sex happened or not? I mean seriously what changes based on the knowledge that they did or didn't do it? Do they love eachother more? Do they love eachother less? Does the marriage proposal change its meaning? I mean seriously what's the big difference?

[willx]

Originally Posted by Dengar

Guys guys, why are people making such a big deal out of it anyways. Does it even matter whether sex happened or not? I mean seriously what changes based on the knowledge that they did or didn't do it? Do they love eachother more? Do they love eachother less? Does the marriage proposal change its meaning? I mean seriously what's the big difference?

[sarcasm] Yes, it matters. Everything changes based on the one fact of whether they had intercourse in that single moment. All the meanings of everything they do change.[/sarcasm]

Now, in all seriousness, there have been much bigger arguments over much more minor curiosities but I understand your point. Ultimately, I think it was intentionally left vague (although hinted at) to make it tasteful, accessible to all ages and showcase precisely your point -- IT'S NOT IMPORTANT AND THEY LOVE EACH OTHER.

[Witch of Uncertainty]

Up until now, I've been thinking that this is a really average show, and didn't understand at all why people liked it so much.
This episode, I loved. Fantastic!Can't wait for next episode.

[Julio C]

I never thought that there would be so much greatness in a single episode. I can't believe Kirito and Asuna finally did it.

[Dessiato]

Originally Posted by Karakuri

Yes, it was First Strike.
And if it weren't, the duel wouldn't have ended to fast. One single blow wouldn't take Kirito's HP to half. Unless he had some god-like powers, because even a Boss couldn't do that to him - Because of his high HP, etc.

No it wasn't first strike, a few cheek shots were landed.

LN comparison and what actually happened with the rules:

Spoiler:

They decided to do a match where the first person to reach 50% loses (yellow zone), Kirito agreed to this even though he knew heathcliffs hp has never gone below 50%.

[Karakuri]

Originally Posted by Dessiato

No it wasn't first strike, a few cheek shots were landed.

LN comparison and what actually happened with the rules:

Spoiler:

They decided to do a match where the first person to reach 50% loses (yellow zone), Kirito agreed to this even though he knew heathcliffs hp has never gone below 50%.

I'm sorry, but I think you're wrong.
Atleast in the subbed version, I see it like this:
1 - Normal Mode
2 - Time-Limite Mode
3 - One Strike Mode

They had chosen the last choice, which means, One Strike Mode.
They landed a few cheek shots, but that doesn't matter, because it must be a clear hit.
If you want, I can take a print-screen.
Edit : And after the fight, Kirito had about 90-80% of HP. - And as I said, it would've been impossible to let Kirito under 50% HP with only 1 or 2 hits.

[Clarste]

Rather than the cheek scratches, I have to wonder how a shield to the gut doesn't count as a clean hit.

[Karakuri]

Originally Posted by Clarste

Rather than the cheek scratches, I have to wonder how a shield to the gut doesn't count as a clean hit.

Maybe Kayaba made it so shields wouldn't do damage? Not to mention, a shield would never do as much damage as a sword, probably even if the shield did damage Kirito, the damage needs to be " real " and not only...1 or 3% HP, maybe?
Dunno...But I think it's fair this way.

[Starlightz]

Originally Posted by Clarste

Rather than the cheek scratches, I have to wonder how a shield to the gut doesn't count as a clean hit.

Spoiler for Comparison to the Light Novels:

That was adaption mistake.

Originally Posted by Karakuri

Edit : And after the fight, Kirito had about 90-80% of HP. - And as I said, it would've been impossible to let Kirito under 50% HP with only 1 or 2 hits.

Spoiler for Comparison to the Light Novels:

In both LN and Anime, Kirito's hp in the end was in yellow zone, which means he dropped to at least 50%.
One-Strike Mode is the one in which whoever drop to 50% hp OR getting hit by a clean-hit first, loses. In this case, Kirito got both.

[Karakuri]

Originally Posted by Starlightz

Spoiler for Comparison to the Light Novels:

That was adaption mistake.

Spoiler for Comparison to the Light Novels:

In both LN and Anime, Kirito's hp in the end was in yellow zone, which means he dropped to at least 50%.
One-Strike Mode is the one in which whoever drop to 50% hp OR getting hit by a clean-hit first, loses. In this case, Kirito got both.

Spoiler for Reply to comparison:

His HP did go to the yellow zone, however, if you re-watch the anime, it only shows his HP in its 90/80% HP...not everything that goes in the LN must be 100% accurate in the anime...they may have changed it. Either that, or my pc is really bad and I can't see it going lower than 80% lol...
Edit: I re-watched...hmmm..it was a mistake in that one, because in Kuradeel's scene, his HP only goes into the yellow zone after he reaches 50%...yeah...my bad. - But one hit = 50% of Kirito's HP? Damn...

[Starlightz]

Originally Posted by Karakuri

Spoiler for Reply to comparison:

His HP did go to the yellow zone, however, if you re-watch the anime, it only shows his HP in its 90/80% HP...not everything that goes in the LN must be 100% accurate in the anime...they may have changed it. Either that, or my pc is really bad and I can't see it going lower than 80% lol...

Spoiler for Reply to comparison:

No, it's not. The hp bar was decreasing from right to left (on our screen), not left to right. (There are small gray parts on the left edge of hp bars, I don't know what those are, but they aren't missing hp indicators)

[Karakuri]

Originally Posted by Starlightz

Spoiler for Reply to comparison:

No, it's not. The hp bar was decreasing from right to left (on our screen), not left to right. (There are small gray parts on the left edge of hp bars, I don't know what those are, but they aren't missing hp indicators)

Spoiler for Reply to comparison:

Oh right...I forgot about that one, my bad...Now that I looked for a few seconds, I saw his HP behind his back...xD
Man, I don't pay attention to those litle details ._.
Edit: I was thinking...why would it be 90/80% of HP yellow zone...when normally it was 50%, but..I didn't think too much about it...I kind of feel stressed by how I miss those litle details lol - But even then, how was it possible to take about let's say, 45% of his HP, in only 1 hit? Not even a Boss could do that...( Atleast not the one from the last episode ) Or...was it from the " Unique Skill " ? It seems more understandable this way I guess...since they said his Attack and Defence would go up with his skill..
- But now no one can say he is OP anymore lol, Heathcliff deals like...10k of Damage in 1 hit? That's insane

[Archon_Wing]

Originally Posted by relentlessflame

Yes, this is what I was thinking too. I swear, half of this thread was the equivalent of people giggling "hehehe they had sex!" We're apparently all 12 again...

It would be great if the tone of the discussion could be raised a bit (apparently it took a nosedive overnight), but why am I not getting my hopes up...

Well, 1/2 of it was mostly immature giggling, however I feel another half may be that actual sex seems to get avoided so much in anime. People just get teased so much by many a show only to get disappointed until the very end, if not at all. Unless you're talking about hentai, but that's hardly "sex" either. In any case, I feel that anime tends to do the suggestive parts better, but then I often have certain agendas while watching.

Also, having a romance cemented in by the midway point has its own appeal, and the story's not afraid to show that they are affectionate for one another, so that tends to stand out in the grand scheme of things. This kind of physical affection, one of love, and not of the pervi/comedy kind is quite rare. It's difficult to portray really; like Clannad's romance and love ran deep, but one of the complaints was the lack of physical affection shown.

Then again, I live in the US, which has a rather unhealthy view of sex (graphic violence is totally okay while sex is not while it's clear violence is way more harmful in any given situation and a failure to realize not all sex is pornographic), so these immature reactions may be unavoidable. I've consistently noted people and posters from elsewhere such as Europe over the years to not make such a big deal over these things.

[outlaw97]

The author for SAO tweeted during the episode's broadcast, anyone want to take a stab at translating them for maybe some...insight?

http://yaraon.blog109.fc2.com/blog-entry-11742.html

[tomstrife]

Originally Posted by outlaw97

The author for SAO tweeted during the episode's broadcast, anyone want to take a stab at translating them for maybe some...insight?

http://yaraon.blog109.fc2.com/blog-entry-11742.html

http://translate.google.com/translat...2.html&act=url

The translations aren't perfect, but you can get the gist of things.

The Japanese fans are also obsessed with the erotic portion of the episode, like us.

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[relentlessflame]

Originally Posted by tomstrife

The Japanese fans are also obsessed with the erotic portion of the episode, like us.

One comment:

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I don't know how you can come to any conclusion whatsoever with such a horrible translation... But regardless, it doesn't seem safe for this forum... (To be clear to everyone else, that was not a comment by the original author, but just some random blog comment.)


Anyway, the one point that was interesting is that the author addressed the issue of the shield bash that was discussed earlier in this thread.

Spoiler for Author's reply to question about why the shield bash doesn't count as a strike:

Sword Shield Bash is a knockdown ability with low offense, so does not count as a "strike", which has to be an offensive attack.

[M1sFyr3]

Originally Posted by relentlessflame

Spoiler for Author's reply to question about why the shield bash doesn't count as a strike:

Sword Bash is a knockdown ability with low offense, so does not count as a "strike", which has to be an offensive attack.

Spoiler for Question to a spoiler:

Do you mean shield bash inside the spoiler? Or did I miss something?

I think the shield bash damage was not specifically shown because the damage done didn't merit a showing of his health bar. Considering that both players are top notch, Kirito may have not taken much damage. However, I do believe it might be an issue on the part of the anime makers.