2018-04-13, 19:30 | Link #1921 | |
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2018-04-13, 19:54 | Link #1922 | |
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Like you say, they're not mutually exclusive. I'm just pointing out, there's more than one perspective you can take on her actions. Quote:
I took that into account, but I don't think it was the transformation causing her temper to flare, but rather than her own feelings in regards to the change. It'd be one thing if the transformation itself caused her mental state to deteriorate, which would be beyond her control, but as far as I can tell it was because she was becoming less human than she wanted she became more agitated and reckless. In which case, rational or not, it's still a decision she consciously made that could have resulted in a death other consequences. What if one of the kids died because of her recklessness? There would really be no coming back from that. It'd be Valvrave and Shouko all over again for me.
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2018-04-13, 20:15 | Link #1923 | |
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The point is which currently she is not in her "normal" states as long she keep acting like that and she need something to bring her back to her sense.
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2018-04-13, 20:37 | Link #1924 |
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But that's still a decision she was actively making and one she didn't talk to anyone about it. She had a willing partner who was opened to listening to her and she didn't bother telling him about her problems. She didn't even make the effort to, even when what she was doing clearly wasn't working leading to two people to get hurt.
And technically, if TPM is something like PMS, that causes a chemical imbalance and hormonal imbalance which accounts for the shifts in emotions and everything else. That would fall into something beyond her control, but unless they state that's the case then its not due to her physiology but her perception of it.
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2018-04-13, 20:49 | Link #1925 | |
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2018-04-13, 21:35 | Link #1927 |
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and how exactly her currently state is not a "hard evidence"??? i already saw a lot of tpm from friends womans and family and i really can see it on 02 behaviour too(ven being very agressive) if the adults speaking is a "evidence" then they made clear which her turning in a monster was turning her unstable and it could start to affect hiro too.
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2018-04-13, 21:37 | Link #1928 |
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Because her mental state isn't the question. We've covered that. The cause of it is. There are plenty of reasons that people can act desperate and irrational and aggressive, you're relating it to something that's actively causes changes in her body beyond her control, whereas I'm working under the assumption that she's acting because she doesn't like what's happening to her body. Because its a fictional work, we have to rely on what the show tells us, and just like you see it and relate it to something you've personally experienced, I'm going off things I've seen and her behavior from my perspective. It's not clear-cut, which is why I'm asking for evidence that I have to have the show itself provide because I can't just ask the creators or Zero Two.
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2018-04-13, 21:54 | Link #1930 |
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That might be how you see it because, as you stated, you've seen it in your own life several times. But, again, its not how I see it so I'm asking for some in-show evidence to prove it. A screen shot of them talking or some data flashing on the screen. I'm willing to accept it if you can show me proof that her acting irrationally is due to some change in her physiology forcing it upon her (i.e. her brain is devolving) and not the fact that she doesn't like what's happening to her (i.e. she doesn't like being different because she believes it means she can't be with her Darling).
To me, one makes her a victim of the change, rather than the other being her own decision because she wants to hold onto her visage of being human. If you can't find something, then that's fine too. Everyone is entitled to their own perception of how the scene is being displayed and you've given a reason for it. It just won't change mine.
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2018-04-13, 22:10 | Link #1931 | |
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So far this anime is being about "what means to grow and be a adult and a human not really about "mechas battle monsters" as normally this sort of serie is. So far for me 02 situation is direct related to her trauma+transformation which is a paralel to a girl having her "first" TPM
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2018-04-13, 22:13 | Link #1932 |
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Redeeming Qualities for 02 (someone was asking):
-She does not slander- She does not engage gossip spreading rumors and half-truths about others, and nearly every other Franxx pilot who has speaking lines in this series does gossip -She is Honest-She hasn't lied to the best of my knowledge -She is long suffering- She suffers through and enduring all the rejection, isolation, combat and torture to keep on living in the hope of meeting the one single person with whom which she believes she can live accepted for who and what she is, her true Darling.
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I wouldn't be surprised if Dr. Franxx had that fairy tale made as a way to control his humanoid klaxasaurs.
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