2013-01-26, 13:59 | Link #761 |
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I agree, the author hinting that he could go a full dragon transformation, could be related that he has to fight more dragons, maybe later on he would have to fight in a place where actual dragons can move, I know that his BB is there for that reason, but maybe he is going to let ddraig control him , and that way draig will remember more about his past, and this way the author could solve one of the biggest mysteries. Why draig and Albion got in a fight.
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2013-01-26, 14:23 | Link #762 | ||
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Not to mention, I don't think that the author wants to turn Ise into an overpowered killing machine, which is why he introduced this whole Rating Game subplot, where team work is something that is needed... I mean, you seemed to forget that, in most cases Ise probably won't be alone on the battlefield... if there is something that he can't defeat on his own, his comrades can always help him in that regard - for example, why do you think Kiba received a Demonic Dragon Slayer sword, in volume 12, if he won't be using it, against some of the enemies, that the current arc is going to have. I know that teamwork hasn't been used much, in the previous parts of the novel, but in the future arc's and the current one, in my opinion, it's going to become more apparent... Quote:
So, while I could see him transforming his arm, into a dragons to block against a magical attack or go through some heavy magic resistance defense, I don't think that it's going to evolve into some kind of complete dragon form... since having a complete / high magic resistance and probably an increased physical defense, over his entire body, and at the same time having some pretty high attack stats, even if it would be for a really short period of time, would seem like plain cheating to me... After all, like I said above, in my response to GundamFan's post, I doubt that the author wants to turn Ise into some kind of overpowered killing machine that would be capable of solving everything on his own... I mean, I doubt he would introduce this whole concept of Rating Games, where teamwork is important, if most of the things, the "King" would be capable of doing on his own... In other words, while Ise is going to be pretty powerful ... I doubt it's going to go into the overpowered territory, there are still going to be situations where his comrades are going to be necessary to achieve a victory... and while it wasn't present much, in the novel's previous part's, I think that teamwork is going to become important in this arc's battle's ... and probably the future ones as well, after all, why else, do you think this part of the novel would be titled: The Legend of Oppai Dragon and his Lively Companions , if it wouldn't mean that someone else then Ise is going to have a heavy role in it ? |
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2013-01-26, 15:03 | Link #763 | |
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2013-01-26, 15:15 | Link #764 |
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Now that you mention it, I agree that a full dragon transformation may indeed be something of an end game thing. But I think you would agree that the dragon transformation wouldn't be introduced if it didn't have any importance in the future. I think something along the lines of half dragon transformation, meaning Dragonic arms and legs, horns and wings maybe a tail, while overall still looking human.
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2013-01-26, 15:23 | Link #765 |
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i also don't think he would turn into a complete dragon like a western flying dragon like Ddraig , but humanoid dragon with scaly body , tail , dragon arms, legs etc.... that alone with BB giving him a form similar to that of JD just to the armor but not with the trouble.
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2013-01-26, 15:47 | Link #766 |
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I agree that a partial dragon transformation is possible, but it won't be without any limitations .... in other words, it will have advantages - like for example increased magic resistance and defense + maybe some new types of attacks, but it will also have some disadvantages, that a skilled opponent might use to be able to defeat Ise in that form... for example an increased vulnerability to dragon slaying techniques compared to Ise's "normal" mode + some limitations on the amount of time, in which Ise can stay in that state (related to his current stamina)
In other words, I don't think that it will be a sure kill move, since that would make Ise's fights a little too predictable and ... boring... |
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It's kinda obvious that the more "Dragon" Ise becomes the more danger comes from dragon slaying techniques. It's like this, basic Ise has for example -50% resistance against light and dragon slayer, in a more dragon like form his resistance to light goes to say 25-50% while his resistance to dragon slayer drops to -125-150%. While light based powers are only half effective on Ise, the threat from dragon slayer triples. Besides there can also be another issue with Ise fully transforming into a dragon. Like Saji he may experience control difficulties. And if Ise goes berserk, there will no one who could stop him(maybe Ophis).
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2013-01-26, 16:39 | Link #768 | |
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But ... since a development like that, would be kind of similar to Juggernaut Drive, I think the possibility of it happening is pretty low... Will, just have to wait and see, how things are going to develop - after all, at this point there isn't much more to say about Ise's potential, half dragon transformation ability... |
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2013-01-26, 16:58 | Link #769 | |
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I do hope I'm wrong about Ise getting a dragon transformation like that only Saji can transform into powerful dragon. |
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2013-01-26, 17:15 | Link #771 |
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Just read up to Volume 5, chapter 5. And the first thing thats happened in this manga has pissed me off. What the hell is with that retarted spell, it wouldnt even be possible. Made him self look like a true moron as well. One of the most stupidest things ever, all time low. Anyway moving on.
Sona just sprouted a bunch of words to Ise about Saji has finally suppased him and will defeat him right. But guess what!! Asia just took the kill!. Friendly fire style. Sure Saji *may* of weaken him. But Asias come to the rescue and Sona can now eat her words. Sorry Saji, better luck next time. I have to admit tho, he gave it best. I can give him credit for that, tho he did try to win cheaply so maybe he can loose some credit for that. Issie did the most stupidest thing ever, but it ended it Asia doing something awesome even if unintentionally. Well what happened normally wouldnt be consided good, but she denied Sona humiliating Issie and took an enemy kill while at it (Asias debute kill!). <3 Asia, shes so innocently cute. The battles been bad from a spectical point of view, so many people have come to watch as well as VIP's. But I guess Sonas in the position she has to use these tactics. I've not read up to the results yet, Rais should win from here, but who noes what other instant trap cards Sona has ready. I think its *more* bad that two friends have been forced to play off each other which is described that it will affect there career for the person who looses. I get the feeling if Sona looses, shes going to resent Rais for crushing her dream. Last edited by Velsy; 2013-01-26 at 17:26. |
2013-01-26, 17:18 | Link #772 |
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Well, I think we should wait for the translation to get a better grasp on the transformation that Ise did. Right now we know only that he transformed his arm and that he was dizzy afterwards.
Reading the actual thing may give us some clues. Also having a Dragon Transformation similar to Saji's Vitra promotion as one of Illegal Triana move sounds like a good idea, I mean it seems that for each of such abilities there is mutated evil piece which means Ise still has 4 more new abilities to gain. Divine Dividing is probably also be possible thanks to this.
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That's my reason to always believe when Crimson Queen reach limits he will transform in Ultimate Shape as Dragon... |
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2013-01-26, 19:46 | Link #777 |
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Could someone explain to me why at the ending of the battle in Volume 5, Rias and Sona had to Battle ?
Acording to the rules of chess, To win all you have to do is put the king in checkmate, you dont need to kill the king. Sona with her peices gone, The Rias's 4 peices just had to corner Sona on the roof or surrounder her and it's C-h-e-c-k-m-a-t-e. A king can checkmate a king. It just felt a little odd they had to fight. Say Rias got 1-shotted, the victory had already been awarded to Rias right ? On that note, man of the match performance from Kiba. Ah I just remember, if Raiser had lost all of his peices and Rais had at least 2 (inlcuding herself) would a checkmate been forced ? and why are they saying Saji killed Isse, Asia did it! She killed him in friendly fire. You could call Asia killing stealing sure, but Saji was denied his kill. Last edited by Velsy; 2013-01-26 at 19:57. |
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-Rias and Sona have match coz it's rating game for young promising devil and it's turn out they meet in first match. just think it like football league, your team will eventually meet all other team it's just matter of time. -Check mean The king KOed, Surrender, or Killed. in this case Sona KOed by Kiba since as a knight he can't let his king defeated since king defeat mean end of match. -Rias want a 1 on 1 battle with Sona and almost ended lost if not for Kiba interferences. -in battle with Raiser she is surrendered since her side is already has no battle power. -in Ise vs Saji battle, it's true that Ise KOed Saji in 1 on 1 battle but unknown to him Saji has drained his blood[imagine his HP got drained bit by bit] and this factor lead to Ise defeat after Asia healing got reversed[if heal reversed it's become damage] |
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