(L) Mushoku Tensei -Isekai Ittara Honki Dasu- [WN]

[bludvein]

Originally Posted by HasNoLove

does his experiment from combine magic in his poor swordmanship has result?
does he able make sword aura like Id from manga/novel Id, or to extend like MC of Sword Emperor whose able make countless sword out of nothing?

or he finally able mix all of 3 kind swordmanship and make his own one with added magic on it, so became supreme one?

or he still poor at it?

Spoiler for ...:

From what I gather, he can't boost his body's ability with magic like other swordsman. There is an explanation, which I think is something along the lines of that he has too much magic power for his body to handle. You'd have to ask amatsunagi if you want a better description, as the GT isn't that great there.

So he is stuck at intermediate Sword-God style, and beginner in the Water God style. There is some indication that he would be better with the Northern God style, but nothing has come of it yet, as he hasn't had a teacher for it.

He can "cheat" with his foreseeing eye though, which lets him beat people much better than he is with the sword.

[Jirachier]

Originally Posted by amatsunagi

Wow, a few days and Blud already covers a lot

Spoiler:

About Elis and Rudy, I agree that Elis is to blame, though that doesn't mean Rudy is with not fault. Remember when I said that he thinks too much? this is one of those moment, he unsconciously relates to his experience back in his previous life. If a girl left the guy after just their first night (and moreover after the guy just "graduates") the first thing he will think is that the girl is unsatisfied with him, and ends with conclusion that he is dumped. With Elis didn't explains clearly her feelings, this traumatizes Rudy and hurts him mentally, which affect his man "problem"

Now about Rudy and maou, I think I'll correct a little bit of what Blud had explain: The maou come to visit Rudy in his school, because he feels a little bit jealous, when his fiancee (the one who gives Rudy magic eye) praises him and talks a lot about him. He is also interested to see what kind of guy Rudy is. when Maou come, a queue of students who wants to challenge Rudy are formed in front of the library. Maou wants to challenge Rudy right away but the students, unaware of his identity told him to also queue. This Maou then told them to come at him and they did. The fights ended with 20 (or 40 was it) students knocked out unsconcious. When Rudy came out, he surprised to see students falling down and there, the maou introduce himself as ___ (I forgot his name, so I left it blank) and challenge him. At first, the school which in uproar of maou invasion asked Rudy to stall Maou by speaking with him. Maou is even more fired up when he heard Rudy mention "The Dragon God" and that "he hurts him (the Dragon God) a bit, even if it's just a scratch)". Maou then propose that he will receive one of Rudy attack to see the extent of his strength, he will not counter or attack back. Rudy decided to accept the proposal and use the most accustomed magic, Rock Cannon. He add a little bit touch and the result is unexpected: he blow the maou upper body with one hit, this feat is unbeliveable since the maou is know for having an almost impenetrable defense. Maou is surprised and tell Rudy that his advanced magic is firepower is the same as that of Emperor-Class. Maou feels a little bit embarassed and to save his face, he knocked Rudy unsconcious with one hit. Rudy is angry because maou didn't keep his promise of not hitting back, but they became good friend though. Ever since then, Rudy is feared by almost every students of the school.

His other amazing feats are:
before entering school, he Defeat a Red Dragon, He also spreads his name wide in the world as "Rudeus the Bog" (for his expertise in using earth-based magic). Red Dragon is a monster that can only be defeated by at least 4-5 groups of S class adventurer (thats around 25-30+ people of S-class), Rudy did this by himself alone.

Another story of him using Frost Nova and accidentally freezes a large part of a forest, this happen on the way back to Central Continent before he reunites with Paulo.

He survives and even manages to hurt "The Dragon God" even if it's just a little scratch, this happen just before he return to "what-was-once Elis home". The Dragon God is "the strongest of the strongest", this is admitted by everyone who knows about him.

Well, I guess that's some parts I wanted to add and fix. Blud you did a great job there, cheers for you! ^^

About the image, I'll reupload it, dunno why it turn blank... =_=a

Spoiler for Question:

Wait, so one shots the Maou but then he gets OHKO'd too ? Does this mean he's weaker than the Maou(how powerful is this Maou considered in this world, is he like the final boss like in other series ?)

[HasNoLove]

Originally Posted by bludvein

Spoiler for ...:

From what I gather, he can't boost his body's ability with magic like other swordsman. There is an explanation, which I think is something along the lines of that he has too much magic power for his body to handle. You'd have to ask amatsunagi if you want a better description, as the GT isn't that great there.

So he is stuck at intermediate Sword-God style, and beginner in the Water God style. There is some indication that he would be better with the Northern God style, but nothing has come of it yet, as he hasn't had a teacher for it.

He can "cheat" with his foreseeing eye though, which lets him beat people much better than he is with the sword.

too bad for rudy for lackin' from OP in swordmanship like he does at magic...
but it's make him like tatsuya shiba from MKnR right? Almost alike, dat's it...

[amatsunagi]

Originally Posted by Jirachier

Spoiler for Question:

Wait, so one shots the Maou but then he gets OHKO'd too ? Does this mean he's weaker than the Maou(how powerful is this Maou considered in this world, is he like the final boss like in other series ?)

Spoiler:

I'm guessing that the maou, Badigardy is above emperor class (Rudeus at most, should be around King class, but he has potential to go over Emperor class as well). He is known by his nickname: The Undying, for his great recovery ability and great defense. If you ask how strong he is, he is one of several few people who survived after the great war against Laplace, the Devil God. Anyway, Rudy foreseeing eyes did not have any effect against him, just like when Rudy is fighting against the Dragon God. Hmm assuming that you have read Negima, I think you can imagine that Rudy is like Negi Springfield at the start of attaining Magia Erebea and Badigardy as Jacobus Rakan. However, The Dragon God is like Nagi Springfield, he towers over the other gods. It is stated that the chance of defeating him, is next to impossible.

[Libros]

Originally Posted by amatsunagi

Spoiler:

I'm guessing that the maou, Badigardy is above emperor class (Rudeus at most, should be around King class, but he has potential to go over Emperor class as well). He is known by his nickname: The Undying, for his great recovery ability and great defense. If you ask how strong he is, he is one of several few people who survived after the great war against Laplace, the Devil God. Anyway, Rudy foreseeing eyes did not have any effect against him, just like when Rudy is fighting against the Dragon God. Hmm assuming that you have read Negima, I think you can imagine that Rudy is like Negi Springfield at the start of attaining Magia Erebea and Badigardy as Jacobus Rakan. However, The Dragon God is like Nagi Springfield, he towers over the other gods. It is stated that the chance of defeating him, is next to impossible.

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Holy sh*t. Dem power levels..so if Rudy is lv. 1 Magia Erebea and the Maou is Jack Rakan(OP as all holy f*ck) then are there any characters that are like Negi when he finished magica erebia and became immortal?

[Jirachier]

Originally Posted by amatsunagi

Spoiler:

I'm guessing that the maou, Badigardy is above emperor class (Rudeus at most, should be around King class, but he has potential to go over Emperor class as well). He is known by his nickname: The Undying, for his great recovery ability and great defense. If you ask how strong he is, he is one of several few people who survived after the great war against Laplace, the Devil God. Anyway, Rudy foreseeing eyes did not have any effect against him, just like when Rudy is fighting against the Dragon God. Hmm assuming that you have read Negima, I think you can imagine that Rudy is like Negi Springfield at the start of attaining Magia Erebea and Badigardy as Jacobus Rakan. However, The Dragon God is like Nagi Springfield, he towers over the other gods. It is stated that the chance of defeating him, is next to impossible.

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Oh thanks, I get what you mean.
I just want to say this though lol, Nagi doesn't actually tower over everybody, in fact the only reason he won over Evangeline was because he tricked her with the water pit thingy and by the time Negi mastered MErebia and got ressurected(after he went berserk and got crystalized) he was way better than his dad, If I understood things correctly I would guess that the dragon god is more like the Mage of the beginning, right ?

Also I thought Rudy was already beyond king-class in term of true power but just doesn't care to get the official title, Ellis is also king-class swordswoman, ugh please please i hope this doesn't turn into yet another power of feeling/love and her being just as good as him and watching his back, that is just annoying

[dragon1412]

translation is complete, however i need a few finishing touch and i have school right now, so i will post in about 6-7 hours later, but keep in mind that this is a 30 minutes translation so don't get your hope up too high.
P/S: someone tell me what did ブリッヂオ○ニー mean, this is the 1st time i met this slang.

[amatsunagi]

Originally Posted by Libros

Spoiler for Response:

Holy sh*t. Dem power levels..so if Rudy is lv. 1 Magia Erebea and the Maou is Jack Rakan(OP as all holy f*ck) then are there any characters that are like Negi when he finished magica erebia and became immortal?

Spoiler:

Not immortal but some people attained longevity when they had reached the God Class, for example the God of Sword.

Originally Posted by Jirachier

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Oh thanks, I get what you mean.
I just want to say this though lol, Nagi doesn't actually tower over everybody, in fact the only reason he won over Evangeline was because he tricked her with the water pit thingy and by the time Negi mastered MErebia and got ressurected(after he went berserk and got crystalized) he was way better than his dad, If I understood things correctly I would guess that the dragon god is more like the Mage of the beginning, right ?

Also I thought Rudy was already beyond king-class in term of true power but just doesn't care to get the official title, Ellis is also king-class swordswoman, ugh please please i hope this doesn't turn into yet another power of feeling/love and her being just as good as him and watching his back, that is just annoying

Spoiler:

Well, I thought that Nagi is the strongest there ^^; anyway, I think, yeah, the same as Mage of Beginning although he not seems to be a schemer, more like a lone wolf. The Dragon God is the strongest of the strongest, he seemed to hate the Human God.

The reason Rudy didn't improve much is because he didn't find a good instructor to guide him. I want to point out that He is smart but not a genius. As for Elis, she didn't care for the title and carried the possibility to became the strongest swordsman due to her determination. I think she is strong enough, like Rudy, except that she treads on a different path.

@Dragon1412:
hauu~ sorry, I don't know that one... it looks like to be a meme of something though... =_=

[Ougon]

That slang was first for me, too. So, I went ahead and tried searing google, and I got few nico pages, which were blank with no content in them, as my only useful hits.

[Jirachier]

Originally Posted by amatsunagi

Spoiler:

Not immortal but some people attained longevity when they had reached the God Class, for example the God of Sword.

Spoiler:

Well, I thought that Nagi is the strongest there ^^; anyway, I think, yeah, the same as Mage of Beginning although he not seems to be a schemer, more like a lone wolf. The Dragon God is the strongest of the strongest, he seemed to hate the Human God.

The reason Rudy didn't improve much is because he didn't find a good instructor to guide him. I want to point out that He is smart but not a genius. As for Elis, she didn't care for the title and carried the possibility to became the strongest swordsman due to her determination. I think she is strong enough, like Rudy, except that she treads on a different path.

@Dragon1412:
hauu~ sorry, I don't know that one... it looks like to be a meme of something though... =_=

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What I want to know isn't whether she's strong, but if she's as strong as he is, I tend to try and avoid series where the author tries to make the main cast all the same level as the protagonist be it a guy or a girl, it's annoying and takes all the fun out of him/her being strong.

[bludvein]

Originally Posted by Jirachier

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What I want to know isn't whether she's strong, but if she's as strong as he is, I tend to try and avoid series where the author tries to make the main cast all the same level as the protagonist be it a guy or a girl, it's annoying and takes all the fun out of him/her being strong.

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I think Rudy would still win, but she is definitely no pushover even for him. Sword King isn't just for show. She worked hard single-mindedly for over 5 years so she wouldn't be a burden. She earned her strength every step of the way.

Despite her problems, she is still my favorite heroine in this story.

Can't picture why you would want your protagonist surrounded by human baggage, as if that somehow makes him/her more impressive or something.

[Jirachier]

Originally Posted by bludvein

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I think Rudy would still win, but she is definitely no pushover even for him. Sword King isn't just for show. She worked hard single-mindedly for over 5 years so she wouldn't be a burden. She earned her strength every step of the way.

Despite her problems, she is still my favorite heroine in this story.

Can't picture why you would want your protagonist surrounded by human baggage, as if that somehow makes him/her more impressive or something.

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lol, I don't want human baggage, the kind of chars I like is for example Luffy in OP, although everyone in his team is strong he is clearly THE strongest, what makes even more sense is Id the greatest fusion fantasy, where Id actually meets strong fighters along his way, not childhood friends who all magically become the strongest fighters of a series. There is Negi too, I just don't like characters of the EXACT level as a protagonist, it diminishes his/her accomplishments no matter what you say

[BW95]

Originally Posted by Jirachier

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lol, I don't want human baggage, the kind of chars I like is for example Luffy in OP, although everyone in his team is strong he is clearly THE strongest, what makes even more sense is Id the greatest fusion fantasy, where Id actually meets strong fighters along his way, not childhood friends who all magically become the strongest fighters of a series. There is Negi too, I just don't like characters of the EXACT level as a protagonist, it diminishes his/her accomplishments no matter what you say

Amen to that.

[bludvein]

Originally Posted by Jirachier

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lol, I don't want human baggage, the kind of chars I like is for example Luffy in OP, although everyone in his team is strong he is clearly THE strongest, what makes even more sense is Id the greatest fusion fantasy, where Id actually meets strong fighters along his way, not childhood friends who all magically become the strongest fighters of a series. There is Negi too, I just don't like characters of the EXACT level as a protagonist, it diminishes his/her accomplishments no matter what you say

Well then there is no problem.

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The girls are pretty competent, with Ellis being the strongest of the bunch(imo), but clearly a step below Rudy. They aren't massively overshadowed like Negi's group though. They also aren't "childhood friends who all magically become the strongest fighters of a series" either, as it makes perfect sense for them to be that strong. Roxy was fairly strong to begin with, and has gotten only better. Sylph was taught by Rudy, so she has the expanded magic reserves and no-chant skill(plus she is a better healer). Ellis was supposedly much more talented than Paul, and worked her ass off for years for her skill. They aren't the strongest, but any adventurer group would sign them on in a heartbeat for their skill.

They are solid backup. Or maybe Rudy is the backup, considering he does his best work when the enemy isn't right in his face. He can work that way, but his best stuff is done at range. Ellis would be the tank if they formed a group(and actually was, for a while).

[Jirachier]

Originally Posted by bludvein

Well then there is no problem.

Spoiler for ...:

The girls are pretty competent, with Ellis being the strongest of the bunch(imo), but clearly a step below Rudy. They aren't massively overshadowed like Negi's group though. They also aren't "childhood friends who all magically become the strongest fighters of a series" either, as it makes perfect sense for them to be that strong. Roxy was fairly strong to begin with, and has gotten only better. Sylph was taught by Rudy, so she has the expanded magic reserves and no-chant skill(plus she is a better healer). Ellis was supposedly much more talented than Paul, and worked her ass off for years for her skill. They aren't the strongest, but any adventurer group would sign them on in a heartbeat for their skill.

They are solid backup. Or maybe Rudy is the backup, considering he does his best work when the enemy isn't right in his face. He can work that way, but his best stuff is done at range. Ellis would be the tank if they formed a group(and actually was, for a while).

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Ok cool, but as for her being the tank, I really hope that's only happening when they're fighting multiple opponents because power of love combo against ONE opponent ruins the action.(Yeah I know I can be very picky, but I love action ;_

[kazzuya13]

Originally Posted by Jirachier

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Ok cool, but as for her being the tank, I really hope that's only happening when they're fighting multiple opponents because power of love combo against ONE opponent ruins the action.(Yeah I know I can be very picky, but I love action ;_

Not really if the opponent is too overwhelming like those on God-class.

[Jirachier]

Originally Posted by kazzuya13

Not really if the opponent is too overwhelming like those on God-class.

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except those god class are the ones we're waiting for the MC to defeat, if he ends up winning because he was helped, it will hold absolutely no meaning except that power of friendship trumps everything which we already know thanks to 90% of shounens being already about it, make him lose against them the first time and win at the absolute end of the series BY HIMSELF

[BW95]

Originally Posted by Jirachier

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except those god class are the ones we're waiting for the MC to defeat, if he ends up winning because he was helped, it will hold absolutely no meaning except that power of friendship trumps everything which we already know thanks to 90% of shounens being already about it, make him lose against them the first time and win at the absolute end of the series BY HIMSELF

Well, there are those 1 on 1 battles where the allies of the protagonist face the villains.

[kazzuya13]

Originally Posted by Jirachier

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except those god class are the ones we're waiting for the MC to defeat, if he ends up winning because he was helped, it will hold absolutely no meaning except that power of friendship trumps everything which we already know thanks to 90% of shounens being already about it, make him lose against them the first time and win at the absolute end of the series BY HIMSELF

Didn't it say in the spoiler that his future self died after all of his wives dies battling against a GOd-class.

[bludvein]

Originally Posted by Jirachier

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except those god class are the ones we're waiting for the MC to defeat, if he ends up winning because he was helped, it will hold absolutely no meaning except that power of friendship trumps everything which we already know thanks to 90% of shounens being already about it, make him lose against them the first time and win at the absolute end of the series BY HIMSELF

Spoiler for ...:

It's not really power of friendship if its done right. Friendship power is an asspull, teamwork isn't. Fairy Tail is a horrible offender, but teamwork can be interesting if its done right. Plus, I'm really not sure how he can beat the dragon god or human god on his own. Future badass version saw it as hopeless, despite his rage at the human god. That's with at least 50 years more training. Even the immortals wouldn't tangle with them.