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And it's never too late to experiment! Our sexuality can change through time and experience just like our opinions and views. Quote:
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2009-09-03, 11:09 | Link #142 | |||
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Anyway, something can be important even if it doesn't happen daily. That's the point. It's like saying "given the number of citizen in comparison to the nuber of rapes/murders, it's not even 25%, therefore it's not important!". Doesn't work like that, thanksfully. @Jazzrat: How dare you, let's finish the fight on your profile. |
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2009-09-03, 11:21 | Link #143 | |
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You said, that "you hope society will fix the discrimination" while you claim that the majority of the society is supporting this discrimination. That is oxymoron. I just pointed out, that society as a whole, should focus on other things, cause the above "problems" can only be solved on a personal level. Do not make it seem, like i do not care about the problems those people that get labeled, get. I do but i will admit that this is not a wide problem as you make it seem. |
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2009-09-03, 12:00 | Link #144 | |
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Furthermore, I would argue that labeling is wide spread issue. That is unless you feel that every person that has ever made contact with another person isn't wide spread. I'm not saying all of these labels are damaging, but "normal" and "abnormal" are both labels. It's part of human nature to label another person. You can't identify yourself without doing so. Are you funny, unfunny, thin, fat, smart, or stupid? If you lived on a deserted island by yourself, would you know if you're normal? Not all labels are harmful and for the most part they're good since they help us identify ourselves, but they can be used as such. Anyway, my argument was that labels are prevalent and I think I've thoroughly illustrated my point. |
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2009-09-03, 12:04 | Link #145 | |
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I do agree with you, while society could reject certain behaviors, when it comes to these kind of subjects, it is mostly up to the individual. |
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2009-09-03, 16:39 | Link #146 | |
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Who would comment on that? Obviously someone is watching too close or is jealous. |
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Ah wait the topic... yes: Sexualtiy is very intimate and private. For many it is a very important part of their own personality. Pleasent sexual fantasies for person A might absolutely disgusting sexual fantasies for person B. Since sexuality is so deep enrouted in the personality of most people they will treat it as very fundamental. This can cause severe tensions when people with "incompatible" sexual fantasies have to deal with each other and they know of each others sexual fantasies. Now there are some people who did not learn to tolerate differences on such a fundamental level. They will not only be biased towards their own sexuality, but openly hostile towards other sexualities. Now to be honest... Personally I am straight. I think I am very tolerant. However, I feel a little bit uneasy with gay males around me in contrast to gay females. While it is very easy to accept that a gay female cannot be sexually interested in me, I cannot really deal with the idea that a male gay might be sexually interested in me. Its like a feeling of being stalked. I know it is stupid but I cannot get completely rid of that feeling. Therefore I usually do not want to know if a male is gay or not. That makes it easier for me to interact just normal/unbiased with them. (for lack of a better term... sexual fantasy = sexual fantasy + sexual practice + sexuality) Quote:
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2009-09-09, 07:26 | Link #148 |
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Maybe I should share some experiences with you from a all-boys' high school.
I'm perfectly straight. And I don't really care about YOUR sexuality, because it is YOURS not mine. But. Go all around and say "my side is better than yours", whether you're straight, gay, or bi, is unacceptable either way. And, that's what I experienced in high school. I had been in Singapore between S1 to S3, before moving back to Kobe, Japan for High school. I enrolled in a VERY prestigious Christian boys high school. And horrors. In a "Christian" school, only 45% of the cohort were Christian. There were a multitude of faiths, but not having any (atheist) was the most common. And the gay population? VERY HIGH. And they were the "in-your-face" kind. In a school where you should either be gay or a player, I stuck out like a sore thumb for my conservative, one-track policy (in other words, at any one time, one gf, not keeping a harem). [Didn't help that my whole lineage was either Ryukyuan or Sankokujin.] As you might know, Japan society isn't kind to deviants. (Even if you match general Japanese society, if you aren't in the immediate crowd, woe to you.) So, just a snippet. Of course, I graduated unharmed.
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2009-10-08, 21:19 | Link #150 |
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I've always felt the concept of sexuality as a continuum is quite valid, and accounts better for the array of preferential sets I've observed in the people around me. I'd also go farther and say that where a person falls in this spectrum is a moving target, constantly changing in subtle ways, though often these changes will not be simple progressions but oscillations back and forth about one center point.
In my case, I am quite plainly asexual--not in the sense of biological deficiency, but in the sense of lacking any preference. While I experience some measure of strong emotional attachment to people of either gender that you could deem romantic, and I've had sexual relationships in the past, I as an individual see sexual activity through a distant, academic lens and have absolutely no physical inclination towards it. Sexual relationships I have been involved in have been, for me, a matter of pleasing the other person as a show of affection while my body is entirely unstimulated by the whole process. Seeing as I have a variety of neurological quirks that have left me with strangely wired senses, I think it's likely this has something to do with it. That being said, I think sexuality is very important, whereas sexual orientation doesn't really have to define a person in any way whatsoever. Your sexuality, that is to say, the nature of your sexual behavior and desires, generally draws on elements of your broader personality. Because of this, sexual honesty becomes very important in achieving higher levels of emotional intimacy. It is another way to learn a person. Bullied for my sexuality? Well, yes, growing up asexual is a bizarre situation. In general social situations, people will be confused by their inability to get a clear and quick read on you, usually they make the assumption you're bisexual or closeted homosexual. While not bullying, per se, this often lead to situations where a homosexual or bisexual male would directly express interest, leading to one of two situations: either considerable embarrassment when I explained the reality to them, or anger and accusations of 'hiding who I am' and being cowardly. Conversely, females who expressed their interest only for me to explain my asexuality assumed I was trying to hide homosexuality, and males looking for a target for their abuse did the same. Even if you're fortunate enough to find a group of friends for whom sexuality isn't the hot topic, being 0% sexual versus say 30% sexual still means there will be times you'll be completely apart from the group, conversations people feel they can't have with you even though you desperately want to lend them your ears. Additionally, my best friend is similarly asexual, the only other person I know who is, and as a result of all of this confusion and nonexistent subtext people read into that, eyebrows get raised when people find out that he and I have recently been discussing living together in the long term and perhaps adopting a child to raise. Last edited by Ricky Controversy; 2009-10-08 at 21:33. |
2009-10-09, 08:18 | Link #151 | |
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O.o!!!!? Gonna be blunt, just so you can break this down in simple, laymans terms to begin with before I start building info on it. Lacking any preference is one thing. Loving all kinds of humans regardless of gender, race or sexual orientation I've heard gathers towards being pansexual perhaps. However... As you described it, you have no physical inclination towards it meaning... you don't have a sex drive? Or is it more a case in a similar situation to when guys masturbate that it just becomes ritual to lose morning wood as natural as breathing or eating, but it's not because you're actually driven per se. It's just part of daily life to take care of yourself. *re reads* Unstimulated, so basically, (I assume you're a guy), you remain soft, heart doesn't race, temp doesn't rise, mind doesn't go blank with arousal; none of the biological setups occur with you while having sex with another... Just curious to see what parts are triggered and what isn't to define yourself as asexual...
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2009-10-09, 09:13 | Link #152 | |
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Lacking in preference means that he is just disinterested, not just asexual. Hermaphrodites are asexual. For his situation, finding a term might be tougher than cuddling up a nekomimi because 1. Bisexual / Polysexual means he is interested in both sexes. 2. Homosexual means he is interested in a similar sex. 3. Heterosexual means he is perfectly normal (likes girls). 4. Pansexual means that he is only interested in romantic love (could in the form of 1-3). I think the best word to use is apathetic rather than asexual. The former may make one sound worthless because of that "pathetic" (you know that it isn't a layman term so retards don't understand it), but at least is is better than claiming that you can execute binary fission or unassisted self-reproduction.
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2009-10-09, 09:26 | Link #153 | |
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Oh dearie me, I twitched a bit... Since when was heterosexuality "perfectly normal"? Who's to say what is normal for anyone? Also, I have never heard the term polysexual; generally "poly" used in terms of sexuality/relationships refers to polyamourism, since poly means "many" and let's face it there aren't many genders Also, not to be pedantic, but pansexual means "exhibiting or implying many forms of sexual expression" so that could have everything, or nothing to do with romanticism. I'm also fairly sure Mystique is snickering right now, as she KNOWS good and well I'd respond to this :P I'm supposed to be doing research, not trolling boards LOL!
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Sexuality is a tricky/sensitive topic (well there are quite a few of those floating about on the GC forums anyways) But to keep things semi civil, to label one sexual orientation as 'perfectly normal', with the unspoken implication that the others are abnormal, despite your personal opinion is potentially asking for backlash, lol. Quote:
Prob a 'don't miss what I've never experienced' situation but still... pretty surreal
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I feel like asexual is the appropriate term, as it matches the general description of asexuality given by Wikipedia here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asexual Perhaps that will help clarify. Any questions you still have after reading that, I will, however, be glad to try and explain. |
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2009-10-09, 11:09 | Link #156 |
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Not to imply there is anything wrong with your inclinations (in fact it would probably make life simpler in many ways), but I'm curious if you've ever looked into a medical reason for your asexuality (or if you have further information regarding your biological abnormalities). I know low testosterone from zinc deficiencies (or other mineral imbalances) can disrupt or eradicate sex drive. Though your comment about a body temperature of 101 is leading me to believe it isn't a nutritional matter. Don't want to come off as nosy or weird, but you've piqued my curiosity .
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2009-10-09, 11:18 | Link #157 | |
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While I've made it a point to consult with doctors and research most of my other biologically anomalous features, that's just one I suppose I haven't had the interest to look into? Often when it comes up with medical or psychological professionals, the first question is if I underwent any sexual abuse while young that perhaps 'turned me off', but this is not the case. Also: Represent, Massachusetts. |
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2009-10-09, 13:17 | Link #159 | |
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I don't think that's physically possible, even if you had both male and female reproductive systems. It takes two people to make a baby, even in cases of artificial insemination. Plus, why would you want to have a kid by yourself? That child would be, technically, half of you and... half of you. That could cause a lot of genetic mutations and defects and make life harder for the baby.
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2009-10-09, 13:39 | Link #160 | |
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