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2007-10-24, 21:21 | Link #582 |
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Aye, this appears to be really tough for some USians to wrap their brains around but sex simply *doesn't* have the same connotations and baggage in other cultures that the US does. For that matter, Europe and Canada have different perspectives that weight concepts in different ways (visit a Scandinavian park in the summertime...).
Hopefully this doesn't sound off-topic but this series trods specifically into areas that *usually* end up on late-night drama in the USA (though portrayed in some hyper-anxious angsty situation that manages to depress and yet not illuminate at the same time).
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2007-10-25, 05:34 | Link #584 | |
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well of course he could be ( anyone remember lucky star? ) ALSO a lolicon, but not exclusively (like me) , because he loved rin's mom but i personally think he isn't one because his behaviour towards rin (and I don't mean any sexual things ) would be different if he was (this is also true for aoki) |
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2007-10-25, 08:55 | Link #585 | |
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If where talking realistically just jail him. >.<"""" Let him in there to think long enough to think trough what he did wrong tbh. I think he already did enough to get jailed in Japan. Spoiler for chap 31:
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2007-10-25, 09:40 | Link #586 |
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Actually it kind of is...You see in Japan bathing is a like daily ritual and also becomes a family affair so it really isn't that uncommon for a child to sit close his or her Parent/Siblings while they wash each other...
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2007-10-25, 10:53 | Link #587 |
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@2H-Dragon: Google is your friend... bathing and "skinship" are long established communal activities in Japan and with japanese .... I'll say it plainly: nudity has different cultural meanings in different countries and context. In Japan, family bathing is completely normal and even public mixed bathing is routine in a few areas.
Even my japanese-american wife's and her parents routinely bathed together until she was 9. Pragmatically, it is an efficient use of heated water to soak in and helps to ensure the children are supervised in a potentially dangerous situation (tubs, slips, drowning). If you're ever in a public bath in Japan, don't be surprised if someone offers to scrub your back while at the shower before getting into the soaking tub. It doesn't mean they're making a pass and they're going to assume you'll return the favor. ------------------ It was not tooo long ago (a few decades) that bathing together wasn't unusual for American and European families --- but the witchburning-like nature of the "pedo under every corner" crowd (wow, they must have some serious personal demons) has coerced western society into different 'standards' recently. Most of what Reiji has done in caring for and being around Rin - up to the current chapter was not that unusual until 20 years ago in the West. What Reiji is doing (subconsciously->consciously) that might be considered wrong is growing himself a replacement for his departed beloved (six more years, eh?) ... problem is that Rin is a human being with her own goals and objectives. The result is going to be a lot of drama (which is what makes a story tick) and trauma for both of them.
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2007-10-25, 20:06 | Link #590 |
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Yea next one comes out on 11/22/08...*waits for chapter*...Anyway it's hard to say exactly where this is going, but it looks like Rin is reaching out to Aoki for love and affection in the only way she knows how. The irony here is the person she wants to be like a father thinks of her as his future girlfriend, while the person she wants as her boyfriend thinks of her like a daughter.
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2007-10-26, 10:40 | Link #592 | |
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Talking about the next release, do you know when is the next ep coming? |
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2007-10-28, 15:36 | Link #593 |
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Been following this thread for a while now and just wanted to add my two cents...
I'll admit to being extremely annoyed by the negative comments about this series, so much so that I edited the Wikipedia article to remove an unsubstantiated statement about Rin being sexually abused by Reiji in his character profile and added an entire section deconstructing the "rampant child molestation and pedophilia" claims by citing numerous sources from the manga itself as well as one online essay: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kodomo_no_Jikan Kind of wordy and excessive, but I figure the only way to beat the Wikipedia censors and their incessant demands for citations as well as the witchhunters is to back it up with a much evidence as possible. If I've made any horrendously incorrect statements, feel free to tell me and I'll edit it. The Lunar Archivist |
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2007-10-29, 23:19 | Link #597 |
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Honestly, when I first heard of the title and some of the controversy surrounding it, I thought badly of it as well. Shame on me. Since then, I've actually sat down and read the thing, and I'm glad I was wrong. This is actually a pretty good story, and the fact that people won't keep an open mind long enough to see what it's about before they slander it saddens me. It also pains me to see that America's so paranoid about conveying the proper message to people that they kill something like this from being licensed based on image alone. So on that note, thanks, Lunar Archivist, for taking time out to edit the Wiki article on it to try and help alleviate some of that false information.
I suppose I'll be keeping up on this manga as well and checking back on this thread from now on. So for now, I'll just toss in an obligatory "Reiji and his agenda are creepy" and be on my way. |
2007-10-30, 00:25 | Link #598 |
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And since we're viewing much of this from Aoki's point-of-view, Reiji is *supposed* to be 'worrisome' (or creepy . We'll have to keep watching to see if he rises to the challenge or follows one of several paths into darkness.
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2007-11-18, 17:40 | Link #600 |
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seen as i had some free time, i thought about catching up ^^
chap 29 hmm i guess this is where the story gets deeper? aoki is still questioning how he really feels about rin, and it seems he is still having "fantasies" or rather, he is thinking too much about rin...that plum scene where he thinks that she is on her cycle is just weird...normal people just wouldnt think something like that if they didnt have "feelings" of one sort or another. rin is sick...but kuro thinks that aoki isnt the cure - we know that kuro is probably the girl who knows most about rin she is only trying to be protective...but what if aoki is the cure? this is getting really complex. what is love to aoki? he really doesnt have a clue either. (btw didnt kuro's mask look like the one rika had in the OP of S1? ) chap 30 haha! funny start to the chapter with mimi getting messed around XD the news being filled with a recent case of pedophilia doesnt help but looking at aoki's point of view i begin to wonder...while cases are more uncommon irl teachers can actually end up in the same position as aoki...scary anyway here we see more aoki protection at work. he really is a kind (but blundersome) man. she wants to keep mimi "pure" but is that really fair to the others? rin feels like she is soo much more than just a 4th grader but aoki just cant understand that...to him she is still a kid but this in turn causes her to want to prove herself. her line on herself being "dark" is interesting...on one hand i get the feeling that she wants attention but on the other it feels like it means much more. she needs someone to "love" properly (apparently reiji is strictly a father figure). but the irony here is that it seems that aoki has made up his mind as to what position he is going to take. he will act and feel like a father figure which rin needs soo much. things can only get better from here on a side note...just what are 4th graders reading nowadays talk about taking an extreme case where kids have access to porn books lying around...i blame the adults for leaving such things lying around >.> chap 31 WTFBBQZOMGBURN! that better be a mosquito bite mark otherwise im calling the cops ~~~ now this is the chapter which sets the whole scene...any doubts on reiji being remotely sane is crushed rin's birthday, great! and aoki is dragged along though im surprised that it was kuro's idea. the story just continues to be deeper as we see how both mimi and kuro understand rin's "forced" condition. she is hiding a much darker and truamatised side to her personality. i just get the feeling that the loss of her mother has just been too great for this little hear to bare. kuro wants to save rin and perhaps aoki is really the cure (and now i sense a hidden message...rin better not get the same cancer that knocked off her mother later on otherwise there will be HELL! >.<) anyway aoki still thinks that he is being a "father" - his blushing is obviously betraying him ^^ the flashback is a huge hint on her condition but what was with that last panel with the smoking chimmley and huge "aki san!" scream...hmm... then there was the end with reiji's inner thoughts showing... "just 6 more years" "i cant wait" he is seriously off his block...but im sure there must be something in his defense...we will just have to wait and see...
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