The Translation of Haruhi Suzumiya (Novel Translation Thread)

[Onizuka-GTO]

*on the look out for new translators & Editors*

[Jellyfish Marine]

^-^ili It seems like there's still a bunch of problems await you. Please keep up, but don't torture yourselves, ok? (Well, I know all of you gonna be more-than-glad to be tortured by Haruhi anyway OwO)

FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT!

[The Crappinometer]

good job guys! thank you very much for working on this!

[Kinny Riddle]

http://www.baka-tsuki.net/project/in...lume1_Chapter5

Translation for Chapter 5 is done. Such a headache translating all the SF terms, editors, your time to shine now.

For this chapter, all I can say is......

Spoiler for Chapter 5:

Yuki pwnage woot! I'm looking forward to seeing Yuki in action get animated.

[Onizuka-GTO]

yep. i've got feeling, though that yuki's special would appaer in episode 05 (chronologically) so episode 05/03 will introduce Itsuki.

*sigh*

So far away from Yuki special

[dannyz]

Spoiler:

"SELECT - continuity code, FROM - databank, WHERE - code information, ORDER BY - attacking-type data battle, HAVING - end mode. PERSONAL NAME - confirmation of hostility of Asakura Ryouko. Disconnecting target's Living Interface."

LOL, Nagato knows SQL!!!

Oh and thanks for the translations.

[Onizuka-GTO]

whats SQL?

Super-dimensional Quantum-string Lingo? O_o

[valentin]

Originally Posted by Onizuka-GTO

whats SQL?

Super-dimensional Quantum-string Lingo? O_o

Originally Posted by Answer

SQL stands for "Structured Query Language". This language allows us to pose complex questions of a database. It also provides a means of creating databases. SQL very widely used. Many database products support SQL, this means that if learn how to use SQL you can apply this knowledge to MS Access or SQL Server or to Oracle or Ingres and countless other databases.

This is usually use when maintaining either a on-site or off-site server.

[Onizuka-GTO]

wow. yuki must have access to a reality-changing server.

[Julius Firefocht]

Good job on all the translations so far! Keep up the good work, in the name of Haruhi!

[Adigard]

SQL > Structured Query Language

Uses a command structure with the same base commands as Yuki's dataspeak. Here's an example of a SQL Query from wikipedia.

SELECT bk.title, count(*) AS Authors
FROM books AS bk, book_authors AS ba
WHERE bk.book_number = ba.book_number
GROUP BY bk.title

Other than the "PERSONAL NAME", the rest of Yuki's statements are all similar to SQL commands, or maybe that's just translator preference, hard to say in a Japanese > Chinese, Chinese > English translation. Lots of possibilities for error in there ^^;;

reality-changing server?

Rather, I think she is allowed to add data to the existing world ^_^

[Thelastguardian]

Originally Posted by Onizuka-GTO

whats SQL?

Super-dimensional Quantum-string Lingo? O_o

The thing I am running Baka-Tsuki on .

But that's not exactly a SQL query...

Anyway. That is how I would translate it if I was translating it from Japanese to English.

My theory- To Yuki(and her gang) the whole univese is one giant relational database that is made up of properties of all atoms. Therefore she can just "log in", access the proper table, and change the attribute of a particular set, no matter if it is the property of a metalic baseball bat or....

Which would sort of make sense, because Yuki commented on how her race was born in the "sea" of data litter throughout the universe. That means they are born inside that database (that seems to be SQL compatible?! ).

Think string theory, and how "supposingly" you can change the property of an object by changing its "string"...

[Onizuka-GTO]

Originally Posted by Thelastguardian

The thing I am running Baka-Tsuki on .

But that's not exactly a SQL query...

Anyway. That is how I would translate it if I was translating it from Japanese to English.

My theory- To Yuki(and her gang) the whole univese is one giant relational database that is made up of properties of all atoms. Therefore she can just "log in", access the proper table, and change the attribute of a particular set, no matter if it is the property of a metalic baseball bat or....

Which would sort of make sense, because Yuki commented on how her race was born in the "sea" of data litter throughout the universe. That means they are born inside that database (that seems to be SQL compatible?! ).

Think string theory, and how "supposingly" you can change the property of an object by changing its "string"...

Like i said,

Yuki knows Super-dimensional Quantum-string Lingo

[panzerfan]

Originally Posted by Thelastguardian

The thing I am running Baka-Tsuki on .

But that's not exactly a SQL query...

Anyway. That is how I would translate it if I was translating it from Japanese to English.

My theory- To Yuki(and her gang) the whole univese is one giant relational database that is made up of properties of all atoms. Therefore she can just "log in", access the proper table, and change the attribute of a particular set, no matter if it is the property of a metalic baseball bat or....

Which would sort of make sense, because Yuki commented on how her race was born in the "sea" of data litter throughout the universe. That means they are born inside that database (that seems to be SQL compatible?! ).

Think string theory, and how "supposingly" you can change the property of an object by changing its "string"...

Well is is possible based on something that I dug out from ontology thread.

Spoiler:

* Wigner's friend resolves the inconsistency by asserting that human consciousness not only measures the physical world, but physically changes it from an indeterminate state to an absolute environment. This is known as the Consciousness causes collapse theory. <- Esse est Percipi, to be is to be perceived!
* The Bohm interpretation avoids catastrophe and allows for determinism without splitting the universe into many worlds by asserting that the positions of particles are fixed by latent variables that are definite in cause and effect, but which can only be calculated in terms of probability by humans. (Like how that we don't know the exact formula for drop rate in MMORPG but we do know of the probability for drops)

It can well be that the query table serves to isolate specific wave pattern and allow the the higher consciousness to collapse the waveform function (seperate from the query) and do what we cannot. Seeing as our notion of position and its derivatives might be wrong funamentally, we can't explain this other than claiming it be magic.

I do not think that the entity need to use SQL since why would they have a need to serialize when they do not operate with time as a dimensional constraint... maybe Kyon is doing the serialization as part of his own 'waveform collapse' to comprehend what is actually going on. (instantaneous transmission of data between 2 particles as demonstrated by Einstein's thought experiment leads to my assumption)

(of course, it seems that the data entities can conduct expansion instead of waveform collapse and return the original state, which is no easy feat)

[fulle]

Hey, I would just like to say that I (and a lot of other people I'm sure) very much appreciate the work you guys are doing in translating the novels. I think the translation is great, and for a big fan of this series I would really like to read all of the series.

Anyways, just wanted to drop in and offer my bit of support for you guys = )

much love <3

[Psieye]

Now now, shouldn't we have some spoiler tags for such discussions in this thread? ^^

Despite what I told myself I did end up reading Ch 3~5 when I got depressed before my exam on Monday afternoon (I needed to take a break) convincing myself that "I'd already been spoiled a little accidnetally, so why not a bit more".

Ah~ I don't think I should read the rest of Vol 1 as it gets translated until the anime covers all 6 Yuutsu episodes as I don't want to be spoiled (I watch this with my friends and being the only one spoiled is frustrating in our talks) - nor do I want to be spoiled while keeping up with this thread. Seems we'll all be a lot busier once exams are over and once the anime has finished Vol 1 and 3 chapters - come Summer!

[Freak Of Nature]

Umm... Psieye, reading the novels before watching the anime is not the same as having your anime experience spoiled. The anime is the derivative work, and the books are the original work. It's analogous to having read a manga before watching an anime derived from it -- it doesn't constitute a spoiler.

[Psieye]

Originally Posted by Freak Of Nature

Umm... Psieye, reading the novels before watching the anime is not the same as having your anime experience spoiled. The anime is the derivative work, and the books are the original work. It's analogous to having read a manga before watching an anime derived from it -- it doesn't constitute a spoiler.

That's your definition of Spoiler. I'm going by the definition of "I know what these characters can do and what their objectives are" before my anime-only friends know - it means I can't talk freely with them.

Spoiler for though we've all figured out from the anime that...:

...we indeed to have an alien, time traveller and esper with us, my friends don't know why they're there and exactly how far Haruhi's power extends. Of course, then there's the Yuutsu ending to which I've been vaguely spoiled but...

...I want to retain what there is of my 'virginity' towards that ending until the anime does that (and other) scene(s) and I'm there with my friends ot share my first reactions to it.


Yes, the contents of words are a (often subjective) variable, not a constant ^^

[Onizuka-GTO]

lol.

yeah. reading the manga/novel is not spoiling the anime, because what goes on in your head is different from what you see on the anime

My mental picture of Haruhi, is a brunette, D-cup caucasian vixen

As for Asahina.....muwahaha....

anyway...it'sa different experience.

[Psieye]

Originally Posted by Onizuka-GTO

lol.

yeah. reading the manga/novel is not spoiling the anime, because what goes on in your head is different from what you see on the anime

My mental picture of Haruhi, is a brunette, D-cup caucasian vixen

As for Asahina.....muwahaha....

anyway...it'sa different experience.

Different but related. Or put it this way: I'm being spoiled not of the anime, but of the story - and I want to capture my reaction to the character/plot twists and developments when I'm watching the anime in synchrony with my friends (as well as be free to discuss the story without foreknowledge).