2012-10-21, 08:45 | Link #1 | |
Audiophile
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Age: 32
|
iPhone 5 and 10-bit MKVs
Quote:
I have owned many devices, and even with flagship Android devices such as the SGS3 and the Nexus 7, I still occasionally see a hiccup or colour defects when it comes to 10-bit files. No such thing on the iPhone 5. And Windows Phone...don't even start talking about it. Files tested: [UTWoots]_Sword_Art_Online_-_09_[720p][0B30EF7C].mkv [Commie] Psycho-Pass - 01 [F4BCFB1E].mkv [gg]_Chuunibyou_Demo_Koi_ga_Shitai!_-_03_[F0F2EAFB].mkv [gg]_Code_Geass_Akito_the_Exiled_-_01_[B785F404].mkv [UTW-Mazui]_Little_Busters!_-_03_[720p][D04E264A].mkv |
|
2012-10-21, 08:56 | Link #2 |
Operation sneaky sneaks
IT Support
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Hic et ubique
|
This post is a bit dated, but for those who can't readily play 10-bit mkv files on their mobile iOS devices, Handbrake does offer the capacity to convert them into mp4 and m4v formats. I say the post is outdated because the current stable build of Handbrake can do the conversion without any issues, but the link is supplied for any party who wishes for a brief tutorial on how the process is carried out.
The iPad is NOT 'a small plastic toy'. Deal with it
__________________
Last edited by Infinite Zenith; 2013-04-20 at 12:27. |
2012-10-21, 09:25 | Link #3 | |
Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2010
|
Quote:
__________________
|
|
2012-10-21, 09:59 | Link #4 | |
Audiophile
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Age: 32
|
Quote:
HD Player Pro. |
|
2012-10-21, 11:49 | Link #6 | |
Also a Lolicon
Join Date: Apr 2010
|
Nice. Might have to upgrade from my 4S...
1. I don't think any of the episodes you tested have particularly heavy subtitles. 720p 10bit works on just about any modern hardware nowadays, even netbook class stuff, but subtitles can bog any system down if heavy enough. The only heavy subtitle in recent memory would be UTW Shinsekai Yori 3 prologue -> part a transition. Can you try that? 2. All of the episodes you tested are 720p I think (airing stuff usually isn't 1080p). Try some 1080p? Anyways, in Fluff's defense, it would be a good idea to note that the iPhone 5 is about twice as fast as any iOS device preceding it. Things change quickly in tech, saying that TheFluff was spreading a rumor would be like saying all the people saying that the iPhone can't copy paste when it still couldn't copy paste were spreading rumors. It's not a rumor, it was something that was true then, but isn't now. Quote:
|
|
2012-10-21, 12:31 | Link #7 |
Operation sneaky sneaks
IT Support
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Hic et ubique
|
I don't think the iPad 3 would handle 1080p flawlessly, but trials show it can take on moderately subtitled files at 720p. From a personal standpoint, I do conversions on the grounds of space economy rather than anything motivated by performance.
That said, I don't think the iOS devices should be considered as 'small plastic toys'. They are reasonable forms of technologies used for a specific purpose, and older models simply lack the hardware to run processes that are now more common, such as playing back the latest and greatest videos
__________________
|
2012-10-21, 19:39 | Link #8 | ||||||
Audiophile
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Age: 32
|
Quote:
However, it's true I should have put more comlex typesetting in. I just wasn't focused on that in the first video. So, I made a video just for you. If anyone else wants something to throw at the iPhone 5 before wanting to upgrade, feel free to ask me. I will be happy to test them for you. File Tested: [UTW]_Shinsekai_Yori_-_03_[h264-720p][FCD25C53] Quote:
It will do 8-bit 1080p no problem though, that I can tell you. Quote:
Quote:
Naturally, the iPad is able to render subtitles now. Quote:
I still use a MacBook Pro to actually get work done. Quote:
For more and more casual users, a tablet will very likely be all they ever need. |
||||||
2012-10-22, 01:38 | Link #9 | |
Excessively jovial fellow
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: ISDB-T
Age: 38
|
Quote:
(there is no fucking way that you can decode 720p 10-bit video in realtime on a 1.3ghz dualcore armv7 and still have enough cycles left to render animated subtitles on top of it. it's not even remotely plausible.)
__________________
|
|
2012-10-22, 02:09 | Link #10 |
ゴリゴリ!
Graphic Designer
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Vancouver, British Columbia
Age: 33
|
I get rather close with my Samsung Galaxy SIII with MX Player, but do get the slightly laggy video; just laggy enough for me to get bothered by it.
It's a shame too, because the Galaxy's screen looks so vastly superior to my factory-made Sony VAIO's screen that it was starting to make me consider putting a few anime series on it to just carry around (not my usual thing, watching stuff on the go without my lappy). Looks like it works nicely, but you haven't touched the files in any way? My friend tried this on his iPhone 5 and it had held off even worse than my Galaxy did. And yes, he did try different codecs and players to no avail.
__________________
|
2012-10-22, 03:43 | Link #11 | ||
Audiophile
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Age: 32
|
Quote:
As a side note, the iPhone 5 actually uses a ARMv7s SoC. It's a bit different from the standard ARMv7 architecture, and has VFPv4 support. Just felt like adding that in. Quote:
I didn't touch the files in any way. There's not much point for me to lie here...of course, did he try HD Player Pro? That is the app I used in all of my videos. I see no reason why it shouldn't work. I can't stress the importance of choosing the right player. Most players in the App Store are rubbish. |
||
2012-10-22, 04:04 | Link #12 | |
ゴリゴリ!
Graphic Designer
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Vancouver, British Columbia
Age: 33
|
Quote:
As for the iPhone, didn't want to imply you weren't telling the truth, sorry. I'm just curious because my friend tried for ages to get it to work with no results. He actually did try HD Player Pro, which is the interesting bit. Don't exactly know why it didn't work for him, but he's moved on anyways, so it's not really too important.
__________________
|
|
2012-10-22, 05:19 | Link #13 | |
Audiophile
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Age: 32
|
Quote:
|
|
2012-10-22, 07:42 | Link #14 | |
ゴリゴリ!
Graphic Designer
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Vancouver, British Columbia
Age: 33
|
Quote:
__________________
|
|
2012-12-23, 22:20 | Link #15 | |
Junior Member
Join Date: Apr 2010
|
Quote:
Hi10p decoding on the iPad mini is a bit jerky (really wish they had put an A6 processor in there... oh well, maybe next year) but on the iPhone 5 it works beautifully.
__________________
|
|
2012-12-29, 07:43 | Link #17 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: france
|
hi, this thread is for iphone5 but i'll ask my question here :
i have a iphone 4s and have trouble getting anime to work on it. it either lag, have artifact problem, or simply dont work at all. is hd player pro the best solution for me ? i watch 720p 8/10-bit stuff mostly and dont want to go through the trouble of re-encoding all my animes... tried quite a few free video player app but neither done the trick, and i dont want to buy an app that turn out to be as bad as the others
__________________
|
2013-01-07, 18:11 | Link #18 |
What?
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: The house besides yours
Age: 40
|
Anyone else vouching for HD Player Pro? It does seem to have bad reviews, and most video apps are worth almost the same price. Reviewers are also saying that the app no longer supports AC3 audio (?)
I'm guessing that since the 4th Generation iPad has superior horsepower than the iPhone 5, it should run even smoother? |
2013-01-11, 06:03 | Link #19 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: New Zealand
|
trying out HD player pro atm, seems to work pretty well for most 720p 10-bit anime
However for some graphically intensive(?) scenes i find it lags a bit (Tried UTW subs Fate Zero episode 15 on 720p, the anime lags a bit during the charging up of Excalibur when all the golden particles were flying out of the ground.)
__________________
|
2013-01-14, 15:18 | Link #20 | |
Junior Member
Join Date: May 2007
|
Quote:
You can almost assume all players don't support AC3 anymore (due to patent issues). For the meantime, HD Player Pro team made a really nice workaround: http://atk-inc.com.vn/support.php?pr...logue_name=iOS I've tested a lot of mkv apps so if you want another opinion and alternatives I recommend the following, most of the time they will all handle 720p (10bit) and 1080p (8bit) mkvs really well: 1. HD Player Pro: + Correctly render stylised softsubs (might be the only app). - No forward/rewind gesture yet, which is a letdown to me. 2. yaPlayer: + Chapters support (might be the only app). 3. AV Player: + Supports AC3 natively. Hope that helped. |
|
Tags |
10-bit, apple, ios, ipad |
|
|