2006-12-08, 11:02 | Link #41 | |
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Episode 83 [Kisame talking to Itachi about the Demon Fox] Kisame:Perhaps you can fight him evenly...but i cannot, he's too strong. Itachi:Yes, If we both fought him, we would both be killed...or in a good case, we might kill him, but we'd die along with him.Even if we had more men that, that result would not change. Kisame: HIS CARETAKE IS A LEGENDARY SANNIN Konoha's Uchiha Clan and the Mist's Seven Shinobi-gatana seem petty before his name. Itachi: Yes,but...All strong opponents have a weakness. Episode 85 [After leaving Jaraiya's weird frogs stomach Tech by using Amaterasu] Kisame: Why must we retreat?...You could've... Itachi: There is no need to hurry with Naruto at his current level.Also, i must rest myself somewhere for a while....I had to use the Tsukuyomi and was even forced to use Amaterasu. He didn't even acknowledge Jaraiya! He used the Tsukuyomi X2 and the Amaterasu which seems to use alot more Chakra! |
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2006-12-08, 13:37 | Link #43 | |
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Personally I find the fact that someone touching you can disrupt genjutsus particularly useful. In theory if you have a kage bunshin or two around, if you get hit with genjutsu, one can fight off the attacker and the second can touch you and pull you out of it. That would neutralize the genjutu. With that you could look at him in the eye all you want (provided he doesn't do the MS) since as soon a clone sees you're hit, it can touch you and pull you out. (THIS IS ALSO WHY I THINK NARUTO WILL KICK ITACHI'S MONKEY ASS. ITACHI IS NOT ALLOWED TO KILL HIM WHICH MEANS NO MS AT ALL). As for the suggestive effects of the sharingan that he used on zabuza, I'm not really sure how thats countered. To tell the truth, it seems it only works on weak ninja since Kakashi certainly doesn't do it on any of the Akatsuki members. But zabuza's not weak though...so that area is a little confusing. Countering the MS is more difficult as those attacks are near instant and cause knockout type damage. Tsunade would be fine since she can heal from near death and so would Hidan since pain doesn't really do anything to his mental state of mind. A normal ninja however would not be so lucky. Still itachi has to convert his eye to the MS and then use the technique. We know that while he can sustain an activated sharingan eye, he can't do so with the MS eye. Rather he turns it on specifically to do the techniques and then turns it off. That takes time, a couple seconds which is enough for a skilled ninja to respond. My response would be kage bunshin (about 10) and spread them out coupled with taijutsu. The idea is as long as he can't find the real one, the cost of amaterasu and tsukuyomi are too high and so he can't use it since he may hit a clone. Tsukuyomi genjutu isn't an area affecting jutsu and amaterasu covers only about the size of 2 doorways (if 2 doorways tired him out so much, you really think he can cover a wider area? that may kill him! 2 doorways is about the size for amaterasu). The point is he'll have targeting issues and that will keep him from using the MS. Its not sure fire, but its a start. |
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2006-12-08, 15:00 | Link #44 | |
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2006-12-08, 15:14 | Link #45 |
Akatsuki Bart is Tobi
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Itachi cannot kill naruto under any circumstances or the AL and the rest of akatsuki will make him pay for it. That mean amaterasu is out of the question. Tsukuyomi is also out of the question as it has been said to be able to kill a person because of the mental stress. If you see the fight that itachi and naruto had, itachi tried to have naruto go to sleep with genjutsu and also tried to use genjutsu to in a way hypnotize naruto into coming with him. Neither worked since one genjutsu was to weak to work on naruto and the other was broken by chiyo and sakura touching him.
I say naruto has the best chance of beating itachi in battle because 1)itachi cannot kill him, 2)itachi cannot use his best jutsus (not just because the reasons stated about. there are also problems that occur when naruto goes into a kyubi state that would seriously make itachi think twice about using tsukuyomi and amaterasu), 3) naruto's bunshins can break whatever genjutsu itachi uses through contact and chakra release to a genjutsu trapped naruto. We've seen that itachi and kakashi's level of taijutsu are about equal. So far itachi is a trickster like naruto and thats where the battle will really be fought. But in truth, it should be clear that of all the people around, naruto is the person who starts off on the best ground against itachi simply because naruto can fight to kill, while itachi can only fight to incapicitate. |
2006-12-08, 19:31 | Link #46 | |
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2006-12-09, 18:10 | Link #47 |
Akatsuki Bart is Tobi
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Tsukuyomi to me, if not used to torture as in kakashi's case, is no different from other genjutsu then. After all, it'd simple achieve the same effect that Itachi's finger genjutsu did. In my reference to it, I meant the form that kakashi was exposed to. Tsukuyomi used to show disturbing images and cause mental stress is somewhat stupid on itachi's part, as other less chakra consuming genjutsu. Personally thinking, i don't see a tsukuyomi other than one that causes kakashi type damage bringing down naruto, with his high recovery and strong mind. Genjutsu may put him to sleep though...
Still its one thing to kill someone and another thing to beat him up badly. If I give you a gun and say don't kill the target, you might have a little difficulty especially if he's running around trying to kill you. Itachi's gun is his wide variety of killing techniques. He may have trouble using those in a non killing fashion. Its a little different for Hidan and Kakuzu as basically they could do whatever they wanted to the biju. Do enough damage and simply, the host reverts. I don't think you can kill a biju thats sealed in a jinchuuriki... |
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2006-12-10, 00:51 | Link #49 |
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A good low-tech way to counter the Sharingan is lots and lots of smoke bombs. The Sharingan isn't the Byakugan, it can't see through things. It could probably see through a darkness Genjutsu, but not regular smoke. The smoke then puts the two people on a more level playing field.
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2006-12-10, 01:11 | Link #50 | |
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2006-12-10, 02:02 | Link #52 |
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Naruto vs. Itachi? Come on...Itachi doesn't even need his ultimates to put Naruto down...he snapped Sasuke's wrist quickly enough and I'm sure he could turn naruto into a pretzel in short order too on regular jutsus and fighting skills alone. He's not a one-trick pony, mind you, and it isn't like everything he has drops off after the MS...just look at Kakashi...he has MS but also has a whole slew of techniques...you think Itachi hasn't picked up on his fair share of uber jutsus over the years? Come on, don't be silly...
What we've seen so far of Itachi is that he's not one to aggravate a situation and go and kill people. He has his mission, and he is out to complete it. Heck, he had several opportunities to kill Asuma and Kakashi and Kurenai and the whole gang...he didn't. Frankly, I don't think Itachi would lose to anyone alive 1v1 at the current moment, and if need be, he can obliterate them as well with Amaterasu.
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2006-12-10, 09:26 | Link #53 |
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Lol remeber the name of the series is naruto..
So one of the 3 cases can happen.. 1) Naruto doesnt face Itachi (real) and he get killed by sum1 else.. 2) Naruto doesnt face Itachi (real) .. because for some miracle they become allies.. 3) Naruto faces Itachi (real) and for some miracle he wins... |
2006-12-10, 12:12 | Link #54 |
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Well in the end Sasuke faces itashi and naruto helps or naruto faces itashi and sasuke helps killing itashi.
Eithher way I think their both going to fight him together because alone neither as a chance and for the sake of the revenge thing Sasuke has got to be the one to kill him |
2006-12-10, 12:14 | Link #55 | |
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2006-12-10, 12:22 | Link #56 |
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A possible way to couter and even turn to your favor the Amaterasu, since it burs every thing reflecetd in the eye, is to creat a mirror of ice/water kinda like Haku. Kisame could develop/know such a jutso...
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2006-12-10, 12:23 | Link #57 | |
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2006-12-10, 12:27 | Link #58 |
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I think that the lesson "Sasuke's way of gaining power is wrong" will be when Naruto becomes the greatest shinobi or Hokage or something like that... but Sasuke has got to kill Itashi. Itashi said himself the only one how can kill me is you!
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