(CR) Sousou no Frieren (Frieren: Beyond Journey's End)

[AC-Phoenix]

The spell Fern picked is ironic justice for letting Frieren fail out of pettiness

[Nachtwandler]

I thought it is more due to getting Frierens penchant for studing odd mundane spells. Like pupil, like teacher.

[Kazu-kun]

There's also the fact that Fern seems to take care of the chores in the party, so this spell is actually super useful to her. I think that's the main reason she asked for it.

[Twi]

You could ask a being likely nearly as old as magic itself for any spell and you ask for Prestidigitation.

It's practical, but still.

[AC-Phoenix]

Originally Posted by Nachtwandler

I thought it is more due to getting Frierens penchant for studing odd mundane spells. Like pupil, like teacher.

It's still ironic, given that Serie failed Frieren for liking a flower bed spell, and was clearly disappointed when Fern picked that spell. Which is also why Frieren said" serves her right"

[magnuskn]

Originally Posted by Twi

You could ask a being likely nearly as old as magic itself for any spell and you ask for Prestidigitation.

It's practical, but still.

Dang, if I could ask for any spell... well, it would be Greater Teleport (Pathfinder 1E version), but Prestidigitation would be a close second.

[Kanon]

I remember my jaw dropping when it was revealed that Land had never even left his hometown. He also has some pretty big balls saying to Serie's face (albeit remotely) that HE is impressed SHE figured it out, considering Serie is the greatest mage alive.

Serie is a really great character. She's arrogant but willing to admit when she's wrong, she apologized to Sense for assuming her test wasn't good enough. She also seemingly keeps people at a distance but although she never told any of them, she holds all of her pupils dear and still remember those who passed away vividly. I thought it was very touching she admitted that, as well as the fact she never regretted taking in students even if they never left their mark on history. This of course completely contradicts what she told Lernen, but that's a several thousand year old tsundere elf for you!

I've already said it a few episodes back, but I love how Wirbel completely subverted expectations. He came across as kind of battle hungry psycho at first, but he's actually the sweetest guy. And of course he was inspired by Himmel.

The ending revealed Ehre's grandfather was Lernen all along, so when she said fighting Fern felt like fighting against her grandfather, it was quite the compliment. I know it's mostly due to Fern's style being old fashioned, but still.

The little montage at the end wasn't in the manga. We never saw Kraft and Sein in it. I didn't expect the anime to give us news about Sein first.

Even though the ending line seemed like it was specifically tailored for the end of the season, it was actually the same in the manga. Truly the perfect ending point.

Originally Posted by Nachtwandler

Thats literarly what closing credits, I won't be surprised if they announce a movie fior the next story arc soon (it is more logical than a new season as I heard).

You heard wrong. Not only does the next story arc not start for a while, it's also even longer than the exam arc. There is zero way it would work as a movie.

They can take as long as they need making S2, I just want the staff to remain. They took a wonderful manga and enhanced it in every way possible. It would be a tragedy if Frieren ended up in JC staff's hands, too...

[Decel]

Originally Posted by Kanon

The ending revealed Ehre's grandfather was Lernen all along, so when she said fighting Fern felt like fighting against her grandfather, it was quite the compliment. I know it's mostly due to Fern's style being old fashioned, but still.

Ooh, totally missed that! Thanks for the head's up!

Felt surprising that Series passed the whole second half, as her comments in the previous episode now seem like a sleight of hand, story-wise.

I just noticed that Land wasn't part of the ED's cast, somewhat fitting given the reveal

Awesome series, definitely one of the rare 10/10 in my books. Not that there weren't any weak episodes (the one after the first test comes to mind), but frankly I can't fathom how one could have improved the work made.

I don't recall the last series in which I was so interested in the side-characters. Denken, Wirbel, Ubel, they could all have spinoffs and I'd be vested from the onset.

[deadite]

I think the irony is that despite Stark's little screentime in the show, he is what people this era will remember in history, just like how Himmel is the one remembered over everyone else in the party.

[FlareKnight]

That was a solid last episode. Very comfortable and fitting for the show. Finished up the pass/fail session pretty smoothly. I was pleasantly surprised that Serie was the type to give Sense an apology and acknowledged that this was a good group.

Best reveal was probably Land not being there in the slightest . I just love it. The man was chilling at home this whole time. No wonder he could be chill in every situation. He was never in any danger. Even with Ubel having his "original" in a vulnerable position it didn't matter since...he wasn't there . I respect Serie giving him the pass for the pure guts to pull a stunt like this.

Good stuff. Lot of solid moments from Frieren getting attacked to a dozen people saying goodbye to Stark. For all the criticism he took after the first test he was clearly doing his thing and being generally helpful to the people of that city.

Just a really good quality episode that even fit in some good Himmel flashbacks. The world is built up nicely here.

Overall I'll give it a 9/10. It's a really good show. It manages to handle the cast nicely, develops the side characters extremely well, has good emotional moments, and still gets some nice action scenes when it fits. I tend to save a 10/10 for a show that I just absolutely love. And it's not quite there for me. But definitely a great show.

[Ragashingo]

I want a spinoff for Land.

Episodes 1-3: Land defends a village from bandits.
Episodes 4-6: Land fights demons alongside Ubel.
Episodes 7-9: Land goes shopping for supplies and stops a thieves guild.
Episodes 10-11: Land delves into a dungeon and is killed in a dramatic battle on the 1st floor.
Episode 12: Land gets up, eats breakfast. Does some gardening. Eats lunch. Studies magic. Eats dinner. Goes to bed. And we realize each arc was a separate clone.

[Frontier]

Originally Posted by Kanon

The ending revealed Ehre's grandfather was Lernen all along, so when she said fighting Fern felt like fighting against her grandfather, it was quite the compliment. I know it's mostly due to Fern's style being old fashioned, but still.

I was wondering why they were in a scene together .

The little montage at the end wasn't in the manga. We never saw Kraft and Sein in it. I didn't expect the anime to give us news about Sein first.

Not to mention the woman in a parasol near Sein .

[scififan]

Originally Posted by AC-Phoenix

It's still ironic, given that Serie failed Frieren for liking a flower bed spell, and was clearly disappointed when Fern picked that spell. Which is also why Frieren said" serves her right"

Otherwise, it is still tusndere. Serie won't admit it. After Frieren enters the interview room, Serie says harsh word about her disciple Flamme, on wasting her lifetime on inventing flower magic. Frieren argues that it is not waste of time for inventing it and learning it. Yet, Frieren and Serie are surrounded by flowers. Perhaps, Serie casts Flamme's flower magic as a way to remember Flamme.

Serie also says harsh word to her disciple Lernen. Lernen is at his last stage of his life. Serie encourages him to challenge Frieren. Lernen declines by saying Frieren is at the same level as Serie. Serie criticizes Lernen as a coward for not living up to his potential. Also, he fails to see the power gap between Serie and Frieren.

While Lernen disappoints Serie, Fern is the pleasant surprise for Serie. Fern is able to catch the glimpse of Serie's hidden power level. Serie is willing to make the exception to pass Fern. Serie teaches Fern magic, to give Fern chance to become Serie's future disciple. When Serie met Frieren one thousand years ago, Serie also offers Frieren to learn magic from her. Frieren declines. Serie is upset about Frieren lacks passionate. Serie is looking for people who have guts.

Too bad, Lawine fails the second exam. If Lawine survives the second exam, Serie will pass her for her ambition and guts. To Serie, having guts is like having potential.

Overall, Serie's decision is rather whimsical. Serie thought Denken is useless due to his age, but Denken still has guts to think how to defeat her. He quickly gives up after access their difference. So is Wirbel. Ubel doesn't speak anything. Serie figures Ubel is think about how to scissor her, so Serie passes Ubel for having the fighting spirit. Methode has guts to tell Serie is chibi and kawaii, so Serie passes Methode.

Originally Posted by Frontier

I was wondering why they were in a scene together .

Not to mention the woman in a parasol near Sein .

It looks more like the mangaka introduced Sein as a new party member, but found out there is no chemistry and dynamic for his role. So, Sein volunteered to exile himself from the party.

[~Yami~]

It has been a while since I enjoyed watching an anime very much. Thank you for the wonderful adaptation for Frieren.

Very sweet to remember that Heiter is basically the one that found Fern's talent. Asking Frieren to nurture her and Fern manage to win Frieren's attention. And now Fern caught Serie's interest.
While Frieren's character development might be in form of how she reconnect all her experiences in her new journey, Fern is walking on the road to be greatest mage in peaceful era.

I'll miss this series and hopefully I can still catch up to the 2nd season years later.

[Huh...?]

YouTube

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[serenade_beta]

Spoiler for final thoughts:

8/10

It definitely wasn't a bad anime. I mean, haha, you have more budget than every other anime in the same season. How can it be "bad"?
But it wasn't really that good. At first, I thought it was gonna time-skip a lot using Frieren's longevity and had some hopes, but by the second half, we went into some stupid Hunter x Hunter tournament arc thing even with its own Hisoka girl and it all went down the drain like that. We get that stupid My Magic Beats Your Magic Because BLAH BLAH BLAH. Do you know why ToAru Index is less popular than its spinoff?
It doesn't help that all of the characters are so knowing that they always talk like
"----------------------------"
Geez, this isn't Darker Than Black. Is the only male character that was sidelined the only character in this anime who has more than a couple of emotions? Even the fighting yuri couple just starts physically fighting quietly

However, yes, the animation was great. So it deserves at least 8/10


...That said

HAH! The anime industry has this whole "I'm gonna throw a lot of money at it and make this sell" ideaology and unfortunately, it sometimes work and bad anime sell
So seeing this thing lose to Jujutsu Kaisen and set to lose greatly to MahoAko, which has such a lower budget that the characters' faces change every episode, is just such a beautiful sight
Imagine? Regardless if they fit or not, you get the most popular staff out there and singers and advertise like there is no tomorrow, and some fanservice anime that is better than you in story and characters and creativity with less advertisement and budget sends you flying out the park.
Mwah, tasty. It doesn't happen often, since normies just watch what is served in their face, but when it does, it makes your next meal so tasty.

[Huh...?]

Originally Posted by serenade_beta

At first, I thought it was gonna time-skip a lot using Frieren's longevity and had some hopes

For that read "Enough with This Slow Life! I Was Reincarnated as a High Elf and Now I’m Bored (I Was Reborn and Became a High Elf, but I Got Tired of My Slow Life after 120 Years)", or watch it when/if it gets an Anime adaptation.

[Shadow5YA]

Originally Posted by serenade_beta

Spoiler for final thoughts:

8/10

It definitely wasn't a bad anime. I mean, haha, you have more budget than every other anime in the same season. How can it be "bad"?
But it wasn't really that good. At first, I thought it was gonna time-skip a lot using Frieren's longevity and had some hopes, but by the second half, we went into some stupid Hunter x Hunter tournament arc thing even with its own Hisoka girl and it all went down the drain like that. We get that stupid My Magic Beats Your Magic Because BLAH BLAH BLAH. Do you know why ToAru Index is less popular than its spinoff?
It doesn't help that all of the characters are so knowing that they always talk like
"----------------------------"
Geez, this isn't Darker Than Black. Is the only male character that was sidelined the only character in this anime who has more than a couple of emotions? Even the fighting yuri couple just starts physically fighting quietly

However, yes, the animation was great. So it deserves at least 8/10


...That said

HAH! The anime industry has this whole "I'm gonna throw a lot of money at it and make this sell" ideaology and unfortunately, it sometimes work and bad anime sell
So seeing this thing lose to Jujutsu Kaisen and set to lose greatly to MahoAko, which has such a lower budget that the characters' faces change every episode, is just such a beautiful sight
Imagine? Regardless if they fit or not, you get the most popular staff out there and singers and advertise like there is no tomorrow, and some fanservice anime that is better than you in story and characters and creativity with less advertisement and budget sends you flying out the park.
Mwah, tasty. It doesn't happen often, since normies just watch what is served in their face, but when it does, it makes your next meal so tasty.

That's generally not how anime productions work.

Most of them have around the same budget while the staff and time management varies.
One-Punch Man season 2 didn't get worse than season 1 because they magically decided to give it less money for no reason.

Placing all of the credit on the "budget" invalidates the work of the animators and gives it all to the executives.

[scififan]

Originally Posted by serenade_beta

Spoiler for final thoughts:

8/10

But it wasn't really that good. At first, I thought it was gonna time-skip a lot using Frieren's longevity and had some hopes, but by the second half, we went into some stupid Hunter x Hunter tournament arc thing even with its own Hisoka girl and it all went down the drain like that. We get that stupid My Magic Beats Your Magic Because BLAH BLAH BLAH. Do you know why ToAru Index is less popular than its spinoff?

I also think Yuyu Hakushu and Hunter x Hunter are boring, but they have a large crowd of loyal supporters. Even the manga artist became a slacker, the readers continue to buy books, so the Jump publisher would not cancel the series. Hunter x Hunter got remade, and there are always peole online make the culture reference to Yuyu Hakushu.

ToAru Index has been top 10 best selling light novels for years. ToAru and spinsoff are usually counted as one series on the sales ranking and number of publication, so there is no sign saying which is less popular. Someone's post showing it as number one accumulated sales ranking.

[Cloudedmind]

Originally Posted by scififan

I also think Yuyu Hakushu and Hunter x Hunter are boring, but they have a large crowd of loyal supporters. Even the manga artist became a slacker, the readers continue to buy books, so the Jump publisher would not cancel the series. Hunter x Hunter got remade, and there are always peole online make the culture reference to Yuyu Hakushu.

Yoshihiro Togashi didn't "become a slacker" he's been dealing with progressive health issues, specifically lower back and hip pain.