GATE - Light Novel Discussion

[Teorenz]

So does Yao end up falling for Itami in the later chapters or does it stay as a one-sided master servant relationship on her end?

[Vallen Chaos Valiant]

Originally Posted by Teorenz

So does Yao end up falling for Itami in the later chapters or does it stay as a one-sided master servant relationship on her end?

You are mistaken. This isn't about "falling madly in love", especially not for Yao. She is lonely, all her past lovers died, her friends killed, her own village think she is jinxed and want her to leave. She is throwing herself into the mission to hunt the dragon because she has nothing to live for anymore, and selling herself into slavery is just the final act of a desperate individual.

Itami gave her life purpose. At least, it was suppose to. The Minotaur arc explores what Yao felt about all this, and in particular how deep down she knows she isn't legitimately a slave but had nothing else to hold on to.

[jasper222]

Originally Posted by Calca

I too would like to know something as a manga reader which has stalled for now.

Spoiler:

Does USA/China/Russia get involved again? I think bringing in other nations would kind of ruin the simplicity that I enjoy of just one nation confronting a new world, but I also understand that it's more realistic to involve other nations on Earth. The thing is, realistically if Russia/China were to get involved, Japan would be forced to turn to the US which would throw a huge wrench into the whole system that Gate has built up.

I'm glad Russia and China aren't as stupid as you think they are.

[Brother Coa]

I do wonder how will they...

Spoiler for important plot spoiler:

... do Zorzal in anime giving all the controversy tied with his character.

[aohige]

Gate total copies have reached 3.1 million copies.
A lot of people seems to think the novel doesn't sell as much as say, Overlord or Log Horizon from just looking at the novel sale figure, but those people forget that Gate sells well in all three formats, novel, light novel, and the manga.
Its sales number is often split between them, and the total series sales is higher than those two.

Gate manga is a very rare case of web novel comicalization selling so well.

[James wallfod]

I want to know something does Itami's harem grow do more girls get added or does it remain the 5 that we know and does his relationship with them deepen or does it remain the status quo ?
thanks

[aohige]

Just the five, and they get closer in the gaidens (each book assigned to each heroine)

Although I'm wondering if Kuri will be the 6th in the 2nd season.
(she was originally a heroine in the web version, but the finalized published version added princess and took out Kuri)

[quigonkenny]

Just introduced myself to this series and just finished reading the manga up to the latest translation, and I've got to go back a few chapters to say that the final fight against the flame dragon just might be the most thrilling action scene I've ever read in manga. So much gar. So much awesome. So much Murphy's Law.

Haven't read the novels, seeing as they haven't exactly been translated, so I don't know how much is the author and how much is the artist, but between the two of them, they've got a fine hand for subtle detail and believable storytelling...at least as believable as a story in this setting could be...

And that's not even mentioning the gorgeous (in several ways) character designs...

Originally Posted by aohige

Just the five, and they get closer in the gaidens (each book assigned to each heroine)

Although I'm wondering if Kuri will be the 6th in the 2nd season.
(she was originally a heroine in the web version, but the finalized published version added princess and took out Kuri)

I can see that. Some of her actions early on mesh with that. In particular, her reaction to the reveal of Itami being a ranger was a fairly tropish "eventual love interest" reaction. Similarly there could be remnants of an "ask the MC to hook you up with someone, only to later fall for him" storyline left over from the web version, going back to when Kuri got drunk at Risa's.

[RDNexus]

The Manga only goes through part of the story, for a more complete experience check the Anime alongside it. That is... If you hadn't done so already, of course.
I don't quite like the Manga artstyle but, in the end, it was worth the effort.

[Hata]

Originally Posted by quigonkenny

Just introduced myself to this series and just finished reading the manga up to the latest translation, and I've got to go back a few chapters to say that the final fight against the flame dragon just might be the most thrilling action scene I've ever read in manga. So much gar. So much awesome. So much Murphy's Law.

umm, welcome, now you know where I hang after cooling off on UQ

Haven't read the novels, seeing as they haven't exactly been translated, so I don't know how much is the author and how much is the artist, but between the two of them, they've got a fine hand for subtle detail and believable storytelling...at least as believable as a story in this setting could be...

the author is a former JSDF member, the mangaka is a specialist on military manga, you can see the little touch the mangaka add in if you had read the novel, which is very neat. easter eggs in many places, most of the mangaka add on is about military hardwares, procedures, etc. did not deviated/change much story wise from novel, example, when the helicopter drop the dragon head on the castle gate, that is a manga add on not in the novel. in the novel the dragon head just mysterious appears one day in front of the citizens of the city.

And that's not even mentioning the gorgeous (in several ways) character designs...

you can go to the official site
http://www.gate-alphapolis.com
to compare the 4 characters design.
hard bound, paperback, manga, anime.

in late December they will release the latest bunko and manga to hype the anime second season.

I can see that. Some of her actions early on mesh with that. In particular, her reaction to the reveal of Itami being a ranger was a fairly tropish "eventual love interest" reaction. Similarly there could be remnants of an "ask the MC to hook you up with someone, only to later fall for him" storyline left over from the web version, going back to when Kuri got drunk at Risa's.

umm, consider how many sub harem members Itami has? take a number and get in line, beside, once the author wrote KuriXTomita there is no way he would give up on that until that story thread is milked dry, consider the latest Gaiden+ when they show how Itami and Kuri first met? chance of this to get going I would say is low, very low.

Originally Posted by xrick

The Manga only goes through part of the story, for a more complete experience check the Anime alongside it. That is... If you hadn't done so already, of course.
I don't quite like the manga artstyle but, in the end, it was worth the effort.

funny because for me.
"The anime only goes through part of the story, for a more complete experience check the manga alongside it. That is... If you hadn't done so already, of course.
I don't quite like the anime artstyle but, in the end, it was worth the effort."

the main difference, I think, if you are a general/causal anime watcher, you would prefer the bunko/anime moe character design and story telling, if you are a military otaku, I think manga hard cored style is the prefer setup. most people who had read the manga first is disappointed with the anime design, just like most people who saw anime first is disappointed with the manga, it is for two different crowds I think,

[quigonkenny]

I've seen the first few episodes of the anime. Much prefer the more realistic manga character designs over the less detailed moe anime designs. Particularly dislike the "cat ear" Rory design in the anime, for some reason, but still plan to watch all of the anime when I get the time (probably over the weekend). I understand the necessity of a simpler anime character design. Not everyone has One Punch Man's budget.

Not as much problem as some with the lesser amount of service and violence in the anime. The anime is the "larger audience" gateway to the manga and (light) novels, so it's understandable that it be more mainstream.

Originally Posted by Hata

umm, consider how many sub harem members Itami has? take a number and get in line, beside, once the author wrote KuriXTomita there is no way he would give up on that until that story thread is milked dry, consider the latest Gaiden+ when they show how Itami and Kuri first met? chance of this to get going I would say is low, very low.

Oh, I understand that the likelihood of Itami x Kuri is low now, but if it was present in the web version before Piña's character basically took over that position, as has been suggested, then I can see lingering evidence of it.

Originally Posted by Hata

funny because for me.
"The anime only goes through part of the story, for a more complete experience check the manga alongside it. That is... If you hadn't done so already, of course.
I don't quite like the anime artstyle but, in the end, it was worth the effort."

the main difference, I think, if you are a general/causal anime watcher, you would prefer the bunko/anime moe character design and story telling, if you are a military otaku, I think manga hard cored style is the prefer setup. most people who had read the manga first is disappointed with the anime design, just like most people who saw anime first is disappointed with the manga, it is for two different crowds I think,

Agreed, though I'm pretty sure I'd prefer the manga designs whatever order I'd seen it in. I had seen the anime designs first in various places when it was airing, and wasn't all that interested. It wasn't until I ran across a description of the premise that I became interested, and decided to read the manga first, since the novel translations are going nowhere and I could tell by the number of translated chapters that the anime wouldn't cover as much storyline. How far into the storyline does the anime get, actually? I'm guessing up to the introduction of Yao?

[aohige]

Yes, and the second cour airing in January should cover all the way through the fire dragon arc, ending close to where the manga is right now.

If they ever make a season 2 anime, it's very likely to surpass the manga pace and finish all of novel Season One.

[quigonkenny]

Originally Posted by aohige

Yes, and the second cour airing in January should cover all the way through the fire dragon arc, ending close to where the manga is right now.

If they ever make a season 2 anime, it's very likely to surpass the manga pace and finish all of novel Season One.

So the story progresses faster in books 3-5, or do you think they'll have more cours in a prospective anime season 2?

[aohige]

For one, a lot of stuff can be condensed in book 3-5, and since I doubt they would do 3 cours.
And you can't really end in book four, there isn't a good stopping point.

The most logical thing to do would be covering three books in 24 episodes which is entirely doable.

[jasper222]

I personally think the author will include Kuribayashi in the harem for the second season.

I still think a marine adventure will be good for the next batch of books.

[NAJ P. Jackson]

huh I was interested to read this LN but never got round to it. Now I just finished watching the anime and was slightly disappointed with the ending. They built the foundations for a new arc. Introduce a new dark Elf character and all but the show didn't even resolve the issue with the fire dragon. Very anticlimactic.

It did made me interested on what is gonna happen to Yao and her situation that I might read the LN just to find out.

Quick question: How many translated volumes does the LN have right now?

[quigonkenny]

Originally Posted by NAJ P. Jackson

Quick question: How many translated volumes does the LN have right now?

Not enough to even bother looking into it, unfortunately. Read the manga. It has covered the first two out of the five main ("Season One") novels, and has started into a portion of one of the five gaiden novels, namely the one that happens chronologically after S1 novel two. Might have covered a bit of S1 novel three, as well.

The anime covers the first S1 novel so far, and should cover the second when it returns next year, so the manga already covers more than what is planned so far for the anime.

This is what I have gathered from this thread, as I have not seen anything but the manga and the first few episodes of the anime. If anyone who knows more can correct me, please do.

[jasper222]

The anime covers Novel 1 and quarter of Novel 2 at least. It continues next year on the foot we left on last season.

[NAJ P. Jackson]

What I don't understand is how did they manage to bring those helicopters and jet pass the gate. At first glance that gate did not look that big. Did they take it apart and reassemble them on the other side?

[HashiriyaR32]

That's exactly what they did.