Nanoha - StrikerS - Episode 21 Discussion / Poll

[arkhangelsk]

Not from Vivio's viewpoint. If you are a Vivio fan, and you care about Vivio, you should hope she gets no appearances until Nanoha mama cuts her free from that "command throne".

[Chaos2Frozen]

Originally Posted by arkhangelsk

Not from Vivio's viewpoint. If you are a Vivio fan, and you care about Vivio, you should hope she gets no appearances until Nanoha mama cuts her free from that "command throne".

Are you a Vivio fan?

Also, maybe yanking her out of the chair is the trigger for "400% Synchronization rate"


(I think that's the right term... If not, the 400% would still give it away...)

[Nightengale]

Or maybe the shackles with the slight electric-bzzz~ are actually memory suppression devices.

I mean, Vivio's amnesia has got to come in to play one way or another, especially since she's apparently 'complete' as the Saint King now...

And since the Cradle was apparently used before to destroy an ancient world, and the only person who can use it is the Saint King... alongside the fact that Cradle was probably made solely for the sake of this...King... well, that tells you something on the King's 'true' personality in some regards.

Or it could turn out to be unsubstantial, or even turn out to be another Fate =! Alicia. Who knows?

[Fabien]

Originally Posted by Nightengale

I mean, Vivio's amnesia has got to come in to play one way or another, especially since she's apparently 'complete' as the Saint King now...

Or it could turn out to be unsubstantial, or even turn out to be another Fate =! Alicia. Who knows?

Well, according to Erio, Vivio might be yet another creation from Project Fate.
If so, she has no true memories (She was just created); but she can have only part of the original's memories, which would explain her "amnesia".

[Chaos2Frozen]

Originally Posted by Nightengale

And since the Cradle was apparently used before to destroy an ancient world, and the only person who can use it is the Saint King... alongside the fact that Cradle was probably made solely for the sake of this...King... well, that tells you something on the King's 'true' personality in some regards.

That he or she really can't build a super galactic highway around the planet?

Originally Posted by Nightengale

Or it could turn out to be unsubstantial, or even turn out to be another Fate =! Alicia. Who knows?

There has to be more than one type of 'villain' girls....

[Nightengale]

Originally Posted by Fabien

Well, according to Erio, Vivio might be yet another creation from Project Fate.
If so, she has no true memories (She was just created); but she can have only part of the original's memories, which would explain her "amnesia".

Well, she seems to have a degree of coherent language and stuff alongside mama-ism even before Nanoha and Fate, so she's no way blank.

And the question begs how much of the original's memories stay. Because if her memory is really those of an ancient King, unless there's errors during the Project F-ing, she seems to have almost none at all as opposed to Fate and Elio who have a reasonable degree of their fake memories.

Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

There has to be more than one type of 'villain' girls....

How about the real Vivio =! NF-mama Vivio?

One of my favorite anime plot devices is when foreshadowing implied hopes, (( Nanoha hoping Vivio gets her memories back soon and remembers her real mama for example )) only to be bitchslapped back by harsh reality. (( When let's say, Vivio's original memories turn her into a evil King for example. ))

[Chaos2Frozen]

Originally Posted by Nightengale

How about the real Vivio =! NF-mama Vivio?

One of my favorite anime plot devices is when foreshadowing implied hopes, (( Nanoha hoping Vivio gets her memories back soon and remembers her real mama for example )) only to be bitchslapped back by harsh reality. (( When let's say, Vivio's original memories turn her into a evil King for example. ))

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Who do we have to pay to make that happen?

[raidou]

Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

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Who do we have to pay to make that happen?

fanfic/dojin would have to suffice for that....

[Chaos2Frozen]

Originally Posted by raidou

fanfic/dojin would have to suffice for that....

Maybe...

But it's a dangerous world out there... Accidences can happen...

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[Fabien]

Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

Who do we have to pay to make that happen?

It won't.
But anyway, that wouldn't be really interesting unless Vivio at least wipes out mankind from the universe.

[Chaos2Frozen]

Originally Posted by Fabien

It won't.

Do you want it to happen?

Originally Posted by Fabien

But anyway, that wouldn't be really interesting unless Vivio at least wipes out mankind from the universe.

You mean 'attempts to wipe out', cause then it wouldn't be interesting if she did.

[Fabien]

Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

Do you want it to happen?

Nope. I don't like bad ends à la Saikano.
In fact, I like it the best when everything's happy from the beginning of an anime to its end.

Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

You mean 'attempts to wipe out'

No, I mean succeed at wiping out. If you want a non-happy end, let's not get a half-assed one.

[EDIT] Besides, there might be survivors, so season 4 will be a classic post-apocalyptic anime.

[Chaos2Frozen]

Originally Posted by Fabien

No, I mean succeed at wiping out. If you want a non-happy end, let's not get a half-assed one.

[EDIT] Besides, there might be survivors, so season 4 will be a classic post-apocalyptic anime.

I wouldn't call bittersweet a 'half-assed' ending.

[Mirificus]

Does anyone have any idea who this is? I mistook her for Nanoha and then Shario.



She was the one who relayed where the throne and engine compartments were to Nanoha and Vita I'm guessing she's some kind of fleet liaison officer. It's just kind of weird how much she looks like Nanoha and Shario.

Edit: I guess I'll chalk it up to sloppy animation. She looks more like Nanoha than Nanoha.

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[Nightengale]

Originally Posted by Mirificus

Does anyone have any idea who this is? I mistook her for Nanoha and then Shario.



She was the one who relayed where the throne and engine compartments were to Nanoha and Vita so she's probably some kind of fleet liaison officer. It's just kind of weird how much she looks like Nanoha and Shario. I guess I'll chalk it up to sloppy animation.

Edit: she looks more like Nanoha then Nanoha.

Random Navy officer #7.

After all, information of the Cradle are probably being transmitted by Yuuno to Chrono to whoever's in charge in CIC, and since Amy's retired, everyone else are nameless.

[Fabien]

Originally Posted by Mirificus

Edit: I guess I'll chalk it up to sloppy animation. She looks more like Nanoha than Nanoha.

With a bit of luck, this will be repaired in the DVD version...

[Mirificus]

Originally Posted by Fabien

With a bit of luck, this will be repaired in the DVD version...

Thankfully, it looks like they've been touching up pretty much everything so far.

[arkhangelsk]

Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

Are you a Vivio fan?

I'm more of the faction that thinks of her as a mere device for NxF, causing NxF to consume all the available space to the detriment of overall show quality. But I understand there are indeed Vivio fans.

[Fabien]

Originally Posted by arkhangelsk

I'm more of the faction that thinks of [Vivio] as a mere device for NxF,

Don't forget Zafira. It's thanks to Vivio that he got a little bit of screen time...

[Nightengale]

Originally Posted by Fabien

Don't forget Zafira. It's thanks to Vivio that he got a little bit of screen time...

I think Aina benefited more from Vivio's existence (( was there a need for her to begin with? )) than Zafira, but whatever.