Mondai-Ji-tachi ga Isekai Kara Kuru Sō Desu yo? (Light Novel)

[XFire]

Originally Posted by Fones

are you really asking me this?

Probably. If there is no egg, there is no chicken to incubate so there is no egg to hatch the chicken to incubate the egg to hatch the chicken and AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH.

That's where you're headed now. Don't go down that path.

[Ghiest Cid]

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Note to self.: add "which come first, chicken or the egg" on "not to be discussed list" right under "global warming".

[Fones]

Why did the discussion turn from the light novel to Chicken & eggs

[Zefyris]

Originally Posted by Fones

The egg can never come first because if there is no chicken there will be no incubation.

... The ancestor of chicken who gave birth to the first chicken was already an animal giving birth with eggs. As such, the "chicken or egg, which was first?" problem is a false problem, indeed, but the correct answer is that it depends on the definition on the "egg" part.
You have ancestor of a chicken-> egg with the first chicken inside worldwide(Egg A)->first chicken worldwide-> first egg given by a chicken worldwide (Egg B)
Do we count an egg made by an animal who isn't a chicken if there is a chicken inside(egg A), or do we count the first chicken egg as being made by a chicken(egg B). Depending on that, the answer is different. That problem is, as I wrote above, a false problem, as the impossibility to give a definite answer doesn't come from the cycling part (as such, it's a really poor example of an eternal cycle with no end nor beginning imo), but comes from how vague is the question, leaving the two answers as correct depending on how you interpret this. Worse, you could also argue that the chicken is already inside the egg right from the start, too. It's too vague, really.


Anyway, leaving that false problem aside, just read the volume 11. Wow, I really got the feeling during that volume that the MC wasn't Izayoi anymore, if you know what I mean. That moment where Azi really starts to act, holly cow. I'm a bit sad for the character we lost though.

[ImperialFlameGod8190]

Thats enough back to problem children so lets do something more interesting.
Now that Azi is defeated whats the next step for the problem children

[Ghiest Cid]

Originally Posted by ImperialFlameGod8190

Thats enough back to problem children so lets do something more interesting.
Now that Azi is defeated whats the next step for the problem children

World domination? Seriously though, the upper echelon will now notice them. They would probably observe first and test them.

[Alyxis]

The next step would be to get back their name from the demon lord in possession of it and find out the true mastermind behind Ouroboros. Although i do wonder if they can use their flag independent of their name for the time being .

[Zefyris]

yes they can use their flag. And if the alliance is finally formed, they'll be able to use the alliance flag as well as the alliance name as well.
Don't forget that there will probably be quite a huge political change as well.

Spoiler for spoiler azi arc:

The south's floor master is out, the eastern floor master changed during this arc, and one of the north's floor master is abducted; and her guild is in complete shambles, with no one to succeed her.
As for the alliance, Jack was their main interlocutor and his skill as creating item was one of the key point of the alliance. His loss will hurt like hell for the whole alliance's future.

I would say that the next step is to resolve those problems and stabilize what has already been partially resolved. In particular, there is a need to rescue that girl from the abduction. The power balance and political stability of the Northern region is at stake, especially with the main body of the Rapko still "away". Also, there's a need to know what will happen of the project formed in the upper echelon to migrate everything but the lower levels. Will this be put to an halt with the result of the fight, or not? And what will happen of Shiroyasha now?
There is also

Spoiler for azi arc again:

Coppelia's change to consider. What will happen of her now? This should be quite important as the third perpetual movement was a very important thing for Ouroboros, so if it's as Jin thought, they won't stay silent on this. We can add the problem of Rin and Denka, who are in a delicate position with Grimm around.

[Dragoon Luna]

Originally Posted by Zefyris

Anyway, leaving that false problem aside, just read the volume 11. Wow, I really got the feeling during that volume that the MC wasn't Izayoi anymore, if you know what I mean. That moment where Azi really starts to act, holly cow. I'm a bit sad for the character we lost though.

Any info or a volume summary that you can share with us?

[Zefyris]

Wait, didn't you already got something like that? I mean, everyone here is talking about stuff who happens in the 11th volume after all...

[Dragoon Luna]

Well I was thinking more like the summaries that were done for volumes 3-6 earlier in the forums. Also on some explanation on the pictures. I get the last one but several are still making me wonder what was going on. I can make an assumption about the pic with black rabbit and her spear but what about the one pic with Azi Dahaka?

Sorry I am kinda wanting more details and clarification about stuff released, like when Baron spoke with Izayoi regarding his true heritage? Was it You's father who restored the genome tree or was it just a security thing with the gift. How did Izayoi sound when speaking about fear and courage.

How exactly did you get the car earphones back!?

How did jack die?

I can go on....

[Xellos-_^]

Originally Posted by Dragoon Luna

Any info or a volume summary that you can share with us?

Originally Posted by Zefyris

Wait, didn't you already got something like that? I mean, everyone here is talking about stuff who happens in the 11th volume after all...

Summaries and Spoliers were done a few months when vol11 was rls. Instead of asking try searching.

[RED IV]

I just can't fathom the thought of there being demon lords stronger than dahaka

[Dragoon Luna]

Originally Posted by Xellos-_^

Summaries and Spoliers were done a few months when vol11 was rls. Instead of asking try searching.

I did search and I was there when the spoilers were done. -_- I am just asking for a summary, an actual one not the bullet point spoilers. The spoilers didn't clarify it was basically this happened and so did that, I would like to know character reactions and clarification about the pictures.

And I can. Azi Dahaka was the Zorostorian God of evil, but he did have a father in Angra Mainyu. For those who know of Fate/stay night this should be a familiar name. XD meaning who knows we might actually get to the center of cosmologies, basically the ones who started them, like chaos, Chronos (time personification in pre Socratic cosmology), Ea, etc.

Since Babylonian and Sumerian are the oldest mythology human history has heck we might see a demon lord or a being who surpasses Azi Dahaka in strength.

Personally I think the "Winds of Decadence" might be the most powerful demon lord in Little Garden.

Oh and if I read Twitter right volume 12 might be released in January and a promo or cover picture for the mega BD box set is out on Twitter also. It has all the problem children and black rabbit on it.

[Zefyris]

Mondaiji 12 isn't part of sneaker bunko's line up for january. may be released on the first day of february though, I don't think they announced that line up yet.

Originally Posted by Dragoon Luna

Spoiler for question about volume 11:

Well I was thinking more like the summaries that were done for volumes 3-6 earlier in the forums. Also on some explanation on the pictures. I get the last one but several are still making me wonder what was going on. I can make an assumption about the pic with black rabbit and her spear but what about the one pic with Azi Dahaka?

Sorry I am kinda wanting more details and clarification about stuff released, like when Baron spoke with Izayoi regarding his true heritage? Was it You's father who restored the genome tree or was it just a security thing with the gift. How did Izayoi sound when speaking about fear and courage.

How exactly did you get the car earphones back!?

How did jack die?

I can go on....

Spoiler for volume 11:

Nothing to explain about azi dakaha pic really. He's just owning everything and surpassing everyone in both knowledge, intelligence and sheer power, and standing there looking at his poor enemies, that's all.
It was You's father (Koumei) who restored it.
You getting the cat earphones back wasn't explained in the 11th volume.
Jack got his identity discovered partially by Azi, resulting as him bleeding heavily as per Jack's game rules. After that, he saw Azi about to incinerate the flying castle with all the children from no-name on it while he was immobilized on ground bleeding heavily. So he choose to become a maou, falling in disgrace in the eyes of everyone and everything, creating a game with cheats advantaging him to a ridiculous level. Invincible, faster than anything, with unbreakable weapons, heavy striking power... When you cheat like that, you're derogating to the most fundamental rule in this world, game's fairness. In Jack's case, he did it in such heavy way that it can only result as being killed by god's wrath in a few minutes, and being judged after that by gods and suffering heavy punishment even after death. He basically completely vanished in a few minutes; there was not a single part of him remaining; and his cheating basically put to waste every single good action he did since arriving on the little garden world.
But his sacrifice and fall in disgrace wasn't without a huge effect, as he managed not only to save the children, but to also completely destroy the remaining defenses of Azi, allowing the alliance's plan to go to its last phase despite the plan in its earlier phases failing completely due to Azi's knowledge and intelligence.

Izayoi speaking about fear and courage... didn't especially speajk about them, it was more like Azi lecturing him in his last moments, like a teacher toward a child; Izayoi didn't really have the possibility to speak.

For Izayoi's heritage, I'm leaving that to someone else, as from what I saw earlier everything there was to say was already said in the topic. Anything more would be translating directly all the sentences, seriously.

Personally I think the "Winds of Decadence" might be the most powerful demon lord in Little Garden.

He's one of the only level 1 known publicly, and the only one we reader have seen. Compared to "him", main gods looks like small fries. He's more of a concept than a real maou though. He's only called maou by convenience.

[Dragoon Luna]

Craaaap we got to wait all the way to April to get the next volume!!!

http://animeanime.jp/article/2014/12/27/21388.html

And here is the final paragraph translated through google translate



"Problem child who is so coming from the different world? "Novels that have been published by" Kadokawa Sneaker Bunko "is it original. Interweaving of boys and girls with a special ability, it is solving a mystery, it is gaining popularity as a different world fantasy There Battle. Volume 12 of the finale of the first part has been determined also be published in the April 1, 15.
Anime including Asanuma Shintaro's starring in, Iori's Nomizu, and appointed Buridokatto Serra-Emi-san, love Nakajima, Hiromi Igarashi popular actors such as. Animation production Diomedéa went.
[Katsunori Takahashi]

Dangit somehow the code got messed up...trying this again....

Can't trust an iPod for coding.....and thank you Zefyris for clarifying something's.

[Diocar]

Does Izayoi get stronger anytime in THE series? Besides THE pilar of light wich he already had before coming into little garden i don t remember he ever having any power up... THE girls are always getting stronger while he is THE same since THE begining....

[bakato]

Originally Posted by Diocar

Does Izayoi get stronger anytime in THE series? Besides THE pilar of light wich he already had before coming into little garden i don t remember he ever having any power up... THE girls are always getting stronger while he is THE same since THE begining....

No. He has not had a single power up so far, but hey it's not like he needs unlike the other girls. They're still playing catch-up.

[ImperialFlameGod8190]

Originally Posted by bakato

No. He has not had a single power up so far, but hey it's not like he needs unlike the other girls. They're still playing catch-up.

Bingo thats the key Izayoi is so much stronger then the other girls that a power up would be foolish. The scariest part is that what you're seeing is his true power being revealed thats all there is to it.

[Morning Star]

Originally Posted by Zefyris

yes they can use their flag. And if the alliance is finally formed, they'll be able to use the alliance flag as well as the alliance name as well.
Don't forget that there will probably be quite a huge political change as well.

Spoiler for spoiler azi arc:

The south's floor master is out, the eastern floor master changed during this arc, and one of the north's floor master is abducted; and her guild is in complete shambles, with no one to succeed her.
As for the alliance, Jack was their main interlocutor and his skill as creating item was one of the key point of the alliance. His loss will hurt like hell for the whole alliance's future.

I would say that the next step is to resolve those problems and stabilize what has already been partially resolved. In particular, there is a need to rescue that girl from the abduction. The power balance and political stability of the Northern region is at stake, especially with the main body of the Rapko still "away". Also, there's a need to know what will happen of the project formed in the upper echelon to migrate everything but the lower levels. Will this be put to an halt with the result of the fight, or not? And what will happen of Shiroyasha now?
There is also

Spoiler for azi arc again:

Coppelia's change to consider. What will happen of her now? This should be quite important as the third perpetual movement was a very important thing for Ouroboros, so if it's as Jin thought, they won't stay silent on this. We can add the problem of Rin and Denka, who are in a delicate position with Grimm around.

the eastern floor master now is Koryuu or is totally another person ? and Arcadia is the name of the community or the alliance of the old no-names ? and for the [Wind of Decay] is he/she somehow related with the gift of Percher, seeing that is a gift that use "wind" to spread the Black Death ?