US Elections 2012 Part II: The Conventions, Debates and Election results

[Xacual]

Originally Posted by Ithekro

Well that also means if they screw up, California could swing back the other way.

Indeed, honestly I don't like it when one side gets pretty much all the power.

[Xion Valkyrie]

Originally Posted by Ithekro

Well that also means if they screw up, California could swing back the other way.

Probably not happening. Registered republicans in CA are down to 30%, followed by independents at 22%. Current trends show that within the next couple of years independents will likely overtake Republicans. It's far more likely that we'll be getting more independents in office if the democrats fail, which is way better than swinging back in the republican direction.

[Lost Cause]

Originally Posted by GundamFan0083

You're probably right.
I don't do Devil's advocate very well.
Xander kicked my butt awhile back when I tried to do the "Lelouch is alive" routine over on the Code Geass board. "Ye Walls of Text" were in effect for that discussion

You summed up my disdain for both candidates very nicely BTW.



I agree.
It probably is "much ado about nothing."

Time will tell gentlemen, there's the OPSEC thing too. But if Inton could get out if the Lewenski ordeal, I doubt Obama will have to worry.

[FDW]

Originally Posted by Xion Valkyrie

Probably not happening. Registered republicans in CA are down to 30%, followed by independents at 22%. Current trends show that within the next couple of years independents will likely overtake Republicans. It's far more likely that we'll be getting more independents in office if the democrats fail, which is way better than swinging back in the republican direction.

Yeah, especially considering that the state republican party can't shut up about immigrants, something that turns away a huge chunk of the electorate that might be inclined to listen to some of their saner policies.

[Chiibi]

Originally Posted by ArchmageXin

Chiibi, I think you might just entered a crowd that may be at least half-hostile to Conservative Christians. Really issue (politics, gay marriage etc aside), Conservative Christians also love to attack things people on this forum would like

Anime (sexual display of girls O_O, homosexuality, and violence!)
RPGs (D&D = Satanic rituals)
Video games (Work of Satan)
Harry Potter (DEMON WORSHIPERS)

Do you see it? People come to this board to discuss their hobbies, and I think almost all of us had a experience like that~

B-but....but....I love ALL of those things!!

Xander kicked my butt awhile back when I tried to do the "Lelouch is alive" routine over on the Code Geass board. "Ye Walls of Text" were in effect for that discussion

Lelouch so totally IS.

[DonQuigleone]

Reminds me of the Conservatives in the UK.

Election before last they ran the entire election on Immigration (or rather against Immigration). Suffice to say, the did not do well.

Next election they ran on other issues, and did considerably better (though they didn't get a majority...)

[Chiibi]

Hmm other stuff I wanted to address (man, you guys type FAST XD)

So if you're somehow unfamiliar with the current job market as you claim, why are you so quick to pass sweeping judgement on those who has to deal with it?

I got my current job last August. Well into this whole economy crisis....so I don't think I'm THAT unfamiliar with it....though I admit, it probably depends on the area you are living in, as far as how difficult it is to find work.

I only hope you never have to experience as long a period of unemployment as I have.

6 months and counting!

Oh, I was there winter 2010 , my friend. It blew goats. D:

You're missing out man, there ain't nothing more fun then filling out job applications. What's really amazing is the way 9/10s of them don't even bother replying!

I know right. It's.......well, it sucks.

As a college student?

Nupe. Didn't finish college. They kicked me out for not applying myself enough. >_> I have never been a very good student. I think I might have ADD....because it's nearly impossible for me to focus on something that doesn't immediately suck me in.
I feel really guilty about it sometimes...because Christian though I may be, it's equally hard to sit still and listen to messages in church. x_X
I'm too used to multitasking...I guess.

[GundamFan0083]

ET Williams weighed in.
His sarcasm is "mwwwwwwah!"...perfect!

ET doesn't play, here's a link to his web-based radio show.
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/common-sense-nation

[james0246]

Sadly, this election cycle has ended on a sour night: the South Park election special sucked. It said nothing about the electorate and nothing interesting about either candidate (plainly, there was no version of this episode in which Obama actually lost the election). What an awful ending to this election cycle...

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[Dr. Casey]

Originally Posted by james0246

Thankfully you will deign to provide us with your comments on this "shitty board" for another day.

Aww, don't be that way bro. I don't have anything against you personally, and in fact like quite a few people on these forums.

[Chiibi]

Originally Posted by Dr. Casey

I don't have anything against you personally, and in fact like quite a few people on these forums.

I feel the same as Dr. Casey.

[Netto Azure]

Originally Posted by Xacual

Did anyone mention the redistricting in CA gave CA completely to the Democrats? They have a super majority now in the state legislature.

Also Prop 30 passed with an 8% lead, was surprised.

Maybe we'll finally get stuff done in Sacramento. Prop 13's mandatory 2/3 Majority for any revenue increase and simple majority for Tax cuts is truly absurd and one of the main reasons California developed this chronic budget imbalance.

But I think things will be fine, Jerry Brown is quite the fiscal conservative considering he was one of those rare Dems back in the 70's already willing to go for a Balanced Budget amendment. Hell maybe that whole pension reform thing will get some traction.

[Terrestrial Dream]

Originally Posted by james0246

Sadly, this election cycle has ended on a sour night: the South Park election special sucked. It said nothing about the electorate and nothing interesting about either candidate (plainly, there was no version of this episode in which Obama actually lost the election). What an awful ending to this election cycle...

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Well that's disappointing.

[GundamFan0083]

Marijuana legalization victories could be short-lived
http://news.yahoo.com/marijuana-lega...022257328.html

Now let's see what Obama does.
My bets are on him showing us who he really serves...i.e. Big-Pharma.

[Vexx]

Originally Posted by GundamFan0083

Marijuana legalization victories could be short-lived
http://news.yahoo.com/marijuana-lega...022257328.html

Now let's see what Obama does.
My bets are on him showing us who he really serves...i.e. Big-Pharma.

yup, follow the money and the "high moral ground" often vanishes.
Lobbies against marijuana -
1.) Police Unions:
2.) Private Prisons Corporations:
3.) Alcohol and Beer Companies:
4.) Pharmaceutical Corporations:
5.) Prison Guard Unions:

[Reckoner]

Originally Posted by Vexx

yup, follow the money and the "high moral ground" often vanishes.
Lobbies against marijuana -
1.) Police Unions:
2.) Private Prisons Corporations:
3.) Alcohol and Beer Companies:
4.) Pharmaceutical Corporations:
5.) Prison Guard Unions:

Do the police seriously benefit from keeping it illegal? I mean do they get money from incarcerating druggies and giving out misdemeanors for possession to stupid college kids?

I find it a bit mind boggling.

[Chiibi]

I dunno....but at one of the Sunoco's in my hometown, the police turn a blind eye at all the weed dealings going around there because the kids buy them cigarettes. =_=

That gas station itself is so shady...pretty much everyone (drug-free) tries to avoid going in there...

[GundamFan0083]

Originally Posted by Reckoner

Do the police seriously benefit from keeping it illegal? I mean do they get money from incarcerating druggies and giving out misdemeanors for possession to stupid college kids?

I find it a bit mind boggling.

Asset forfeiture is a huge incentive for police departments and it is part of the reason they don't want the drug war to end.
Nixon was a monumental A-hole for starting it, it is high time it ends.

Originally Posted by Vexx

yup, follow the money and the "high moral ground" often vanishes.
Lobbies against marijuana -
1.) Police Unions:
2.) Private Prisons Corporations:
3.) Alcohol and Beer Companies:
4.) Pharmaceutical Corporations:
5.) Prison Guard Unions:

I totally agree Vexx.
This is why the drug war needs to end.

We need a real leader in this country.
Someone like this American hero:

[flying ^]

Originally Posted by Chiibi

America has ONCE again severely disappointed me.

(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻)

Hah, I should be numb to it by now. That will teach me to be optimistic.....and I COMPLETELY agree with Victoria Jackson and you guys making fun of disappointed Christians is NOT cool.

That was not sarcasm. Just because our beliefs differ from yours doesn't mean we don't deserve respect.

You have a concerted, well-organized effort to destroy this country (as founded) by the communist controllers of the dem. party, the entertainment industry and the print/tv news media. Fundamental Transformation. I would be ashamed to say I was for the casual murder of babies.



In support of the above statement they have had great success... Just posting their successes that have changed many opinions.



15) Capture one or both of the political parties in the US

17) Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for Socialism, and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers associations. Put the party line in text books.

20) Infiltrate the press. Get control of book review assignments, editorial writing, policy-making positions.

21) Gain control of key positions in radio, TV & motion pictures.

23) Control art critics and directors of art museums. " Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art".

24) Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.

25) Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography, and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio and TV.

26) Present Homosexuality, degeneracy, and promiscuity as "normal, natural, and healthy".

27) Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity, which does not need a "religious crutch"

28) Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the grounds that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state"

29) Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.

30) Discredit the American founding fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man".

32) Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture - - education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.

40) Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.

[Vexx]

What an utter load of absolute bullshit. What drugs have YOU been smoking?