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Goetz · 2003-12-09, 18:31

Ok so tell me if I'm wrong but, in the first couples episodes of Naruto we see that he reads a cursed seal and learn the Shadow Replication forbidden technique....

However and here is my question...

How does Naruto learn this technique, in such short time, by himself so fast when he has to work his ass off to learn basic stuff like walikng on trees or on water...

any suggestions?

Bobber20 · 2003-12-09, 18:54

Here is my theory,

The shadow replication skill is not too difficult to perform, but it is difficult to perform effectivly without using too much chakra. In one of the later episodes it explained that Naruto would use WAY more chakra to do the same technique than sasake and Sakura combined. Because of the Nine Tail fox inside of Naruto he has so much stamina that he doesn't really have to worry about doing it real effectivly.

Thats just my theory

Baka no desu ka? · 2003-12-09, 19:02

Also, there's the fact that Naruto was particularly motivated to learn it (Mizuki told him learning it would allow him to graduate) and that he trained all through the night ("Enough to damage your body" -Iruka).

Alfzilla · 2003-12-09, 19:41

Naruto with the proper motivation combined with his huge stamina can learn a jutsu very fast if he puts his mind to it. I wont give away any spoilers but lets just say that the replication jutsu is not the only thing he learns unusually fast.

NoSanninWa · 2003-12-09, 19:49

My personal theory is that Naruto simply performs poorly when he isn't motivated. He didn't take most of the jutsus in school seriously so he didn't learn them well or quickly. It's just the same when he starts fighting someone new. At first he doesn't take them seriously and goofs a lot in the fight causing him to nearly loose. Then once Naruto takes someone seriously he comes up with a real strategy and kicks their ass.

Naruto is a lot smarter than he seems and I think this applies to his learning jutsus also. When he is studying something he does take too seriously like duplication he goofs off and doesn't learn it well. Then he gets the scroll with Kage Bushin no Jutsu. Between the fact that this is a really powerful jutsu and he's going to fail without it, he applies himself. When he really puts his mind to something he is a thousand times better than a looser who jerked off in class.

The only reason that he learned his transformation illusion so well is that he decided to come up with Sexy no Jutsu. He had to learn the technique so that he could irritate everyone so much. ;p

pathyfinder · 2003-12-09, 19:51

Alfzilla your sig sounds like something Gaara would say!

I'm just a little confused, if Naruto doesn't really have any more normal charkra than say Sakura, why WAS he able to do it? I know at this point he has a stamina boost from the Kyubi but didn't learn to use the Kyubi's charka until just recently. It is all about stamina then?

Alfzilla · 2003-12-09, 19:57

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Originally Posted by pathyfinder

Alfzilla your sig sounds like something Gaara would say!

I'm just a little confused, if Naruto doesn't really have any more normal charkra than say Sakura, why WAS he able to do it? I know at this point he has a stamina boost from the Kyubi but didn't learn to use the Kyubi's charka until just recently. It is all about stamina then?

Some times when its 5 in the morning and im still up playing games or watching tv or doing something els i feel like Garra!!

But any wase, Naruto only learned to control the Kyubi's power recently but its been with him and slowly mixing in with his own all his life.

pathyfinder · 2003-12-09, 20:03

well that is what I thought... that his charkra was mingling with the Kyubi's but all that stuff about "BLUE" and "RED" chakra, made it appear that it was seperate and could only be used when called upon. That is why I thought the Kyubi just gave him stamina unless he calls for it.

Stickels · 2003-12-09, 20:07

Naruto has WAY more chakra than sakura on his own, the kyuubi just enhances his allready large stash.

Hunter · 2003-12-09, 20:09

The stamina is the spiritual and body energy and you obtain chakra by mixing these 2 elements.

Naruto who is a stamina freak due to the presence of the Kyubi, always had much chakra at his disposal.

He succeeded suddenly so that the history can start

pathyfinder · 2003-12-09, 20:12

ok, so he always had it and it was always mixiing, he just didn't learn how to control it until recently????? is that it?

Hunter · 2003-12-09, 20:21

Yeah exactly, thought he doesn't really learn to control his chakra very well yet.

Naruto has tremendous quantity of chakra but he sucks badly to control it, in fact the only reason why he can continue to fight with almost no control on his chakra is because he has so much chakra that he can allow himself to spend a huge part of it.

Stickels · 2003-12-09, 20:26

well.. he's not THAT bad at controlling it, he was getting pretty good untill Oro sealed him. Then when the seal was taken off he got significantly better at controlling it. The only person who's said he has horrible control was the closet pervert guy, and his only experience was with naruto under Oro's seal.

Rainbow · 2003-12-09, 22:52

Naruto does have a large chakrapool, but it never mixed with the demonfox, it had started to slightly "leak".
It did however start to mix with the demonfox when was hit with the "five-elemental seal" from Oro. That's why he started to loose control of it.

After that seal was released he reagained the ability to properly control his chakra again.

2003-12-09, 18:31	Link #1
Goetz Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Age: 41	Question Naruto and Shadow Replication... Ok so tell me if I'm wrong but, in the first couples episodes of Naruto we see that he reads a cursed seal and learn the Shadow Replication forbidden technique.... However and here is my question... How does Naruto learn this technique, in such short time, by himself so fast when he has to work his ass off to learn basic stuff like walikng on trees or on water... any suggestions?

2003-12-09, 19:49	Link #5
NoSanninWa Weapon of Mass Discussion Fansubber Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: New York, USA	My personal theory is that Naruto simply performs poorly when he isn't motivated. He didn't take most of the jutsus in school seriously so he didn't learn them well or quickly. It's just the same when he starts fighting someone new. At first he doesn't take them seriously and goofs a lot in the fight causing him to nearly loose. Then once Naruto takes someone seriously he comes up with a real strategy and kicks their ass. Naruto is a lot smarter than he seems and I think this applies to his learning jutsus also. When he is studying something he does take too seriously like duplication he goofs off and doesn't learn it well. Then he gets the scroll with Kage Bushin no Jutsu. Between the fact that this is a really powerful jutsu and he's going to fail without it, he applies himself. When he really puts his mind to something he is a thousand times better than a looser who jerked off in class. The only reason that he learned his transformation illusion so well is that he decided to come up with Sexy no Jutsu. He had to learn the technique so that he could irritate everyone so much. ;p __________________ There's not that fine a line between willing suspension of disbelief and something just being stupid.

2003-12-09, 20:12	Link #11
pathyfinder Terabyte needs anime! Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Columbus, Ohio	ok, so he always had it and it was always mixiing, he just didn't learn how to control it until recently????? is that it? Last edited by pathyfinder; 2003-12-09 at 20:23.

2003-12-09, 18:54	Link #2
Bobber20 Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Age: 41	Here is my theory, The shadow replication skill is not too difficult to perform, but it is difficult to perform effectivly without using too much chakra. In one of the later episodes it explained that Naruto would use WAY more chakra to do the same technique than sasake and Sakura combined. Because of the Nine Tail fox inside of Naruto he has so much stamina that he doesn't really have to worry about doing it real effectivly. Thats just my theory

2003-12-09, 19:02	Link #3
Baka no desu ka? Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Why do you want to know??? Age: 34	Also, there's the fact that Naruto was particularly motivated to learn it (Mizuki told him learning it would allow him to graduate) and that he trained all through the night ("Enough to damage your body" -Iruka).

2003-12-09, 19:41	Link #4
Alfzilla Was Here Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: SF, CA Age: 40	Naruto with the proper motivation combined with his huge stamina can learn a jutsu very fast if he puts his mind to it. I wont give away any spoilers but lets just say that the replication jutsu is not the only thing he learns unusually fast.

2003-12-09, 19:51	Link #6
pathyfinder Terabyte needs anime! Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Columbus, Ohio	Alfzilla your sig sounds like something Gaara would say! I'm just a little confused, if Naruto doesn't really have any more normal charkra than say Sakura, why WAS he able to do it? I know at this point he has a stamina boost from the Kyubi but didn't learn to use the Kyubi's charka until just recently. It is all about stamina then?

2003-12-09, 20:03	Link #8
pathyfinder Terabyte needs anime! Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Columbus, Ohio	well that is what I thought... that his charkra was mingling with the Kyubi's but all that stuff about "BLUE" and "RED" chakra, made it appear that it was seperate and could only be used when called upon. That is why I thought the Kyubi just gave him stamina unless he calls for it.

2003-12-09, 20:07	Link #9
Stickels Just passing by Join Date: Nov 2003	Naruto has WAY more chakra than sakura on his own, the kyuubi just enhances his allready large stash.

2003-12-09, 20:09	Link #10
Hunter Bubbly and super fun Join Date: May 2003 Location: Doesn't look like Kansas	The stamina is the spiritual and body energy and you obtain chakra by mixing these 2 elements. Naruto who is a stamina freak due to the presence of the Kyubi, always had much chakra at his disposal. He succeeded suddenly so that the history can start

2003-12-09, 20:21	Link #12
Hunter Bubbly and super fun Join Date: May 2003 Location: Doesn't look like Kansas	Yeah exactly, thought he doesn't really learn to control his chakra very well yet. Naruto has tremendous quantity of chakra but he sucks badly to control it, in fact the only reason why he can continue to fight with almost no control on his chakra is because he has so much chakra that he can allow himself to spend a huge part of it.

2003-12-09, 20:26	Link #13
Stickels Just passing by Join Date: Nov 2003	well.. he's not THAT bad at controlling it, he was getting pretty good untill Oro sealed him. Then when the seal was taken off he got significantly better at controlling it. The only person who's said he has horrible control was the closet pervert guy, and his only experience was with naruto under Oro's seal.

2003-12-09, 22:52	Link #14
Rainbow Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Amongst the seven mountains, isolated on a remote island. Age: 43	Naruto does have a large chakrapool, but it never mixed with the demonfox, it had started to slightly "leak". It did however start to mix with the demonfox when was hit with the "five-elemental seal" from Oro. That's why he started to loose control of it. After that seal was released he reagained the ability to properly control his chakra again.