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GDB, come on. Magus. They'd scoff at the idea of picking up a product of technology for a catalyst!
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2014-03-10, 21:06 | Link #4883 | |
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2014-03-10, 21:12 | Link #4884 |
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I'd say if you use blood and corpses, it's because your personality is twisted enough to think that's acceptable, and thus the Servant you summon would also be as such, not because of a catalyst, but because in terms of compatibility, you'd both need to be twisted.
In other words, it isn't a catalyst, you're grasping at straws to try and force a connection when there doesn't need to be one. |
2014-03-10, 21:14 | Link #4885 |
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Plus this nonsense about "imperfect success rate" only applies to a catalyst with ties to multiple Heroic Spirits, like the Gates of Troy. And even then it's a proper catalyst, and not just common junk like you're claiming.
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2014-03-10, 21:17 | Link #4886 | ||
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Still, even so, using blood is not uncommon and not a sign of being really twisted. Quote:
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2014-03-10, 21:19 | Link #4887 | |
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No one is claiming "this is it!". It's speculation and it is fun. There is no Nasu's last word on this, so you don't get no cookie even if you beat him up. |
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2014-03-10, 21:20 | Link #4888 |
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This is a thread meant to answer questions with hard facts about the series. This is not a thread for speculation and fun, and frankly I'm surprised a moderator hasn't come down on this thread as a result.
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2014-03-10, 21:26 | Link #4890 |
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Sometimes speculative answers is all that can be given, but this is not the thread for speculation itself. I have seen plenty of speculation tangents in Q&A threads get dozens of posts deleted and infractions/bans handed out as a result of them happening.
Either way, yes, someone supplying incorrect answers is kind of a big deal for this kind of thread.
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2014-03-10, 21:30 | Link #4891 | |
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By the way, do you know that Astolfo from Apocrypha was summoned by using just plain filthy glass bottle as catalyst? |
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2014-03-11, 05:50 | Link #4893 |
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Please, not this shit again. We had already entire discussion about this in different thread. Apocrypha is canon like everything else. Nasu had supervision at creation of Apocrypha and he even personally wrote and designed some key parts and story background.
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2014-03-11, 05:58 | Link #4894 |
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Regarding Fate universe - everything is canon.
Because of the multiverse theory - for every decision another universe was created. In Fate case - every universe they created ( Dtay Night, Extra, Apocrypha, CCC... ) is real and it happened. But they are not connected with eachother even if some things have resemblance. |
2014-03-11, 13:14 | Link #4896 |
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Not connected in a way that if some thing happened in one universe does not mean it happened in other.
Throne of Heroes is the same but they lose their memory when summoned if they have taken part on former Grail War ( Saber and Archer are unique to that rule ). Probably so tha they cannot share their version of the universe and thus shake the balance between them. |
2014-03-11, 18:48 | Link #4897 |
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Again not entirely true. All differences between all universes are usually based on simple butterfly effect which diverge one universe from other at some point (interestingly that it's often the third grail war). Then everything what happened before this point is always the same (unless otherwise stated of course), but even after this point there are sometimes some things which always happen despite all the changes (for example Waver always become Lord El-Melloi II regardless whether fourth grail war normally happens or not, or at least this is true in most currently known universes). Series probably isn't called "Fate" without reason.
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