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Continuing the discussion from ep 19 thread here now.
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- Insubordination: Among the heaviest crime possible in the military, would result in expulsion. - Using rank for illegal exploits: Among the most dire crimes for state officials, would result in expulsion. - Using deadly force against a witness: You guess. It's got nothing to with being gay or atheist. Quote:
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2009-05-21, 10:29 | Link #107 | |||||
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Honoring Ultramarinus and other posters requests,
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Now in Zuellni he started a whole new life where so far he is good and heroic. Quote:
- Insubordination and expulsion, but because of what? His actions within Zuellni’s jurisdiction that’re already happened are within boundaries, and he saved Zuellni, proven to be an indispensable military asset. Because his ideals differs from his superior? If that’s the reason Nina would file for an expulsion or court marshaling Fon-fon then it only made her more and more selfish and couldn’t accept people’s opinion even more. - Using rank for illegal exploits, what crimes did Fon-fon commit in Zuellni? None. Just expressing and defending his opinion that differs from his superior. - Using deadly force against a witness: You guess. Back in Grendan, not in Zuellni he’s not. Taken all the above into account further shows the quality of the superior Fon-fon’s under is it? But relax, episode 10 had proven otherwise. She gave up. Quote:
On side note, Fon-fon is above the military law because of what he’s capable of. At least him and Felli. If Nina wants to expelled him then by all means, many would simply take him under their wings and Nina’s squad can return of being ordinary again. Quote:
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2009-05-21, 10:58 | Link #108 | |||||
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His crimes' implications persist over moving, he refuses to repent, rather he defends his crimes, his ideas threaten the platoon's teamwork and safety. As long as you continue to ignore these facts, we'll just continue to repeat with different words. Let's say we disagree about the matter and be done with it. One last thing: She didn't give up, she saw through his deceit. Quote:
As I said several times before, she would just have him moved to another platoon. She doesn't have the authority to expel, she didn't imply that either. Quote:
Now that we moved here and seemingly closed a few topics as disagreements, I'd really like to see your reasons as to why you like Nina. Because your list of criticisms pretty much covers all the aspects of her character. |
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2009-05-21, 11:27 | Link #109 | ||||||
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Grendan events: - He committed crime in Grendan and had been punished; - Has a motive of survival; Zuellni events - Arrived at Zuellni, during this has his motive of survival; - Beat squad 16, during this has his motive of survival; - Saved the city in ep 5, during this has his motive of survival; - Fighting the dragon in ep 7 saving the city again, during this has his motive of survival; - Fighting Gorneo and co, during this has his motive of survival; - Conducting surveillance to the Goat City; during this has his motive of survival; - Confront Nina, his past exposed, stood by his ideals and during this has his motive of survival - Confront Shante and Gorneo who probably intends to kill him, beat them off, but he spared them, during this has his motive of survival; - Ep 12 – ep 15, during these periods he has his motive of survival; He had his motives, but still, he didn’t commit any crimes at all. These are what you seems didn't take into account. If we arguing about ‘motives’, then pretty much Nina’s recklessness and forcefulness should’ve been taken into account because of her nature to not thinking strategically as seen 2 years prior, in ep 2, 6, and 16. And she should’ve been strip out of her rank permanently because he’s unfit to be a leader, it could simply happen again in the future because of these events and based on ‘motives’ alone. Not because of facts. Quote:
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2009-05-21, 11:45 | Link #110 | ||||||
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I just saw the same discussion the previous page here and it looks like you held the same view back then. Best if we just drop it like Layfon & Nina did. Quote:
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On another note, if you'd like to make a reversal of our roles so far, I'd like you to state what you like about Nina and in return, I'll tell what I don't like about her. What do you say? |
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- Hitler will state that he doesn't regret and that he'd do it again. - You can just replace Hitler to another platoon so you won't see his ugly mug but he'll continue to save people. |
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Imo the setting has to be similar to CSR in every way so we can give somewhat similar or at least close judgments. Then I’ll give my condition: if Hitler had Fon-fon’s exact or somewhat close personality and had undergone similar stuffs that Fon-fon went then it’s alright. |
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actually i'm not sure...i just saw it in one site and thought i'd share it here...this is one of the pics that boost my liking of nina...my impression of her before was that she's really boyish with her looks...
but seeing what she looked like before made me say she really is the prettiest among the girls of csr...even now that she has short hair...maybe also because of her personality... |
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