Macross Frontier - Speculation Thread [Spoilers]

[magnuskn]

Originally Posted by Sleepy100

Ai-kun dies, Nene gets blown away, and Nanase gets seriously hurt to the point where she can no longer draw. Plus, 80% of Frontier city gets demolished with a 60% civilian casualty. Military NUNS loses 30% of their pilots, leaving many people unable to bury their love ones.

A bit extreme on the casualty side...

[Sleepy100]

Originally Posted by magnuskn

A bit extreme on the casualty side...

Sorry, but anything else that I see on the thread or think up feels too insignificant to cause the extreme hate in Alto and Luca. Oh and I want something different from the "Mikail dies" or "Nanase dies".


Edit: (Even though I believe I was one of the few people who first predicted Nanase would die.)

[magnuskn]

Originally Posted by Sleepy100

Edit: (Even though I believe I was one of the few people who first predicted Nanase would die.)

Are you serious? Everybody who had read the spoilers for ep 22 has said that Nanase will probably bite it.

[Sleepy100]

Originally Posted by magnuskn

Are you serious? Everybody who had read the spoilers for ep 22 has said that Nanase will probably bite it.

Hmm..... Did I mention...No I didn't...Oh well.... I thought it was a possibility that Nanase would die along with some of the main characters, before the ep 22 spoilers came out but have no proof of why so kept the far-fetched and ludicrous opinion to myself.

[magnuskn]

Originally Posted by Sleepy100

Hmm..... Did I mention...No I didn't...Oh well.... I thought it was a possibility that Nanase would die along with some of the main characters, before the ep 22 spoilers came out but have no proof of why so kept the far-fetched and ludicrous opinion to myself.

With all the Nanase hate going on here, I think that wish may have come up a few times on its own.

[Sleepy100]

What other far-fetched insane ideas did I have that I tossed into the blackhole of a trashcan....?

- Saotome family practice personality lobotomy on Alto. Alto ran away before the full effect can be realized.
- Ai-kun betrays his/her comrades to protect Ranka and dies in the process (AKA killed by NUNS)
- Grace was trying to give Sheryl a relatively peaceful death, but Sheryl forced her hand in the hospital.
- Grace isn't as evil as everyone make her out to be; she lost her heart and morals when her loved ones died. Revenge is the only thing on her mind.
- When all the Vajra are wiped out, Ranka is going to have an "accident" and die according to Grace's plan.
- Vajra collective mind wants to pass on the leadership and torch to Ranka, before they move on. That was the entire point of their attacks. (Finding Ranka is like finding a needle in a needle stack, with no idea of what the needle looks like. They only had fold dislocation and nuclear reaction to go by.)

[ipernorris]

Uhm some days ago I posted a theory about the origin of the Vajra and what there is in the galactic center, this one for reference:

Spoiler:

Originally Posted by ipernorris

This point of the spoilers is quite interesting: what is "waiting for them" in the galaxtic center?!? In the center of galaxies there are black holes, but I don't think Grace&Friends are making this trip just to be destroyed by a black hole!
So it must be something else: in this regard it's usefull to remember what Grace&Friends replied to Luca in answer to his guess that Leon wanted the control over the galaxy through the fold quartz. Grace&Friends said (more or less): our target is what lies beyond that (=the galactic control). What may lie beyond the control over an entire galaxy? The control over the ENTIRE universe of course.
So there may be two things in the center of the galaxy:
1) a white hole, which is some kind of jump gate to other dimensions/galaxies. Maybe the Protoculture made something similiar to this in their age thus leaving it behind.
2) some kind of device which allows instant travel between two points in the universe.

I think 1) is much more exciting than 2), but anyway both of the possibilities put the Macross storyline from the old galactic level to an entire new universe level. Macross Frontier may be the beginning of a new set of Macross series based on intergalactic travel and not only on intersteallar travel.

As an aside I think the Vajra may be beings put as guardians of whatever there is in the center of the galaxy by the Protoculture. Why? Because the Vajra, with their incredible potential, could have colonized the entire galaxy without problems, especially after the Protoculture's fall. Instead humans and, above all, Zentradis have never heard anything about them, which is quite strange because Zantradi's fleets are scattered all around the galaxy. This clearly shows the Vajra aren't an offensive force but a defensive force which is present only in the zones adjacent the galactic center.

Why was it utterly ignored? Maybe the plot won't go exactly in the same way, but I think I wrote some reasonable possibilities, especially regarding the Vajra's origins and purposes... can someone give his opinion? Not only who will slap who is important guys, come on...

[magnuskn]

Spoilers from Kresphy from Macrossworld:

Spoiler:

Grapevine:
Alto will reture to kabuki stage.
Sheryl restart song life.
Ranka and Brera start escape to Galaxy.


Real info, only dictation by my friend.
Sorry, I hope she give me the design pics tomorrow.


Nanase will be injured, many bandages (EP.23?)
Ranka will be hijacked again(EP.25 or 23)
Last BOSS like crab??

My opinions:

Spoiler for opinions:

Nanase is only injured? I guess that means that Michael will survive, if they will only injure Nanase, who is the most useless of the characters. ^^

And no big surprise that Ranka needs to be rescued again... besides singing and mooning over Alto, it seems to be her third favourite pasttime. ^^

[Wesley84]

Originally Posted by ipernorris

Uhm some days ago I posted a theory about the origin of the Vajra and what there is in the galactic center, this one for reference:

Spoiler:

Why was it utterly ignored? Maybe the plot won't go exactly in the same way, but I think I wrote some reasonable possibilities, especially regarding the Vajra's origins and purposes... can someone give his opinion? Not only who will slap who is important guys, come on...

It probably has something do with Birdman, whatever that is, and Mao finding Shin and her sister.

[Seifall]

Originally Posted by magnuskn

Spoilers from Kresphy from Macrossworld:

Spoiler:

Grapevine:
Alto will reture to kabuki stage.
Sheryl restart song life.
Ranka and Brera start escape to Galaxy.


Real info, only dictation by my friend.
Sorry, I hope she give me the design pics tomorrow.


Nanase will be injured, many bandages (EP.23?)
Ranka will be hijacked again(EP.25 or 23)
Last BOSS like crab??

My opinions:

Spoiler for opinions:

Nanase is only injured? I guess that means that Michael will survive, if they will only injure Nanase, who is the most useless of the characters. ^^

And no big surprise that Ranka needs to be rescued again... besides singing and mooning over Alto, it seems to be her third favourite pasttime. ^^

No one force him to do so...

I don't get when you say no big surprise that Ranka needs to be rescued again
are you talking about episode 20 or the spoilers from MW ?

By the way Ranka and Brera start escape to Galaxy
Where is Alto ? The jealousy ACT will take place soon!

[Wesley84]

Except Alto doesn't feel jealous. He feels threatened.

[magnuskn]

Originally Posted by Seifall

No one force him to do so...

I don't get when you say no big surprise that Ranka needs to be rescued again
are you talking about episode 20 or the spoilers from MW ?

Ranka has needed rescue a lot of times already in the series, hence my comment.

Originally Posted by Seifall

By the way Ranka and Brera start escape to Galaxy
Where is Alto ? The jealousy ACT will take place soon!

In Sheryls bed?

[Seifall]

I said WILL take place , I'm talking about when he will made up his mind..episode 22 or after.
He will feel jealous enough to pursue Ranka at the ends of the galaxy

[magnuskn]

Originally Posted by Seifall

I said WILL take place , I'm talking about when he will made up his mind..episode 22 or after.
He will feel jealous enough to pursue Ranka at the ends of the galaxy

I don´t think so. Ranka will follow her oni-chan to the center of the galaxy, while Alto and Sheryl live happily ever after.

[Seifall]

Originally Posted by magnuskn

Ranka has needed rescue a lot of times already in the series, hence my comment.

OK


In Sheryls bed?

She will not have time to sleep anymore with her come back on the spotlight

Honestly did you see the ED in episode 19 ? Those spoilers you posted ....
I don't know how you can still be so sure ...
For me it's clear now Sheryl will remain the galaxy Fairy, the songstress, so all your argument about she lose everything... so she must get at least one thing....
Ranka will be in Sheryl's current position, she will lose many things : Brera and her start a escape life I don't think Alto will just watch...

Anyway Grace might have did something big like kill ai kun which protected her or something like that if not I don't know why Brera will take a drastic measure like to escape with her to Galaxy....

[cheesie]

Originally Posted by magnuskn

I don´t think so. Ranka will follow her oni-chan to the center of the galaxy, while Alto and Sheryl live happily ever after.

So I was telling my shipmates for the past few weeks, I am THIS CLOSE

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to shipping S.S Branka. THIS CLOSE. The only thing that's stopping me is the heavy implications of Brera = brother, but considering how Kawamori laughed at our faces about Pineapple Salad, I'm willing to bet Brera isn't her blood-related brother, but an adopted one, or Ranka being adopted.

You heard it here first.

[Seifall]

Originally Posted by magnuskn

I don´t think so. Ranka will follow her oni-chan to the center of the galaxy, while Alto and Sheryl live happily ever after.

I think you forgot your spoilers


Alto will reture to kabuki stage.
Sheryl restart song life.


Looks like they will take different way


And Alto in Kabuki = female with Sheryl songstress = Hot female are you kidding ?

[magnuskn]

Originally Posted by Seifall

I think you forgot your spoilers


Alto will reture to kabuki stage.
Sheryl restart song life.


Looks like they will take different way


And Alto in Kabuki = female with Sheryl songstress = Hot female are you kidding ?

Why should they go different ways? There are famous couples all the time in the real world, who make it work ( for a while, at least <cough> ), while working on far apart projects.

[cheesie]

Originally Posted by Seifall

I think you forgot your spoilers


Alto will reture to kabuki stage.
Sheryl restart song life.


Looks like they will take different way


And Alto in Kabuki = female with Sheryl songstress = Hot female are you kidding ?

This is speculation stage, but have you seen how Sheryl will "restart her song life"?

May'n : "Even though it’s such an upbeat song, the lyrics are really say. Perhaps, different from a ballad (e.g. Diamond Crevasse), this is Sheryl at her most painful moments - pretending to be strong, when she’s struggling to not show her weakness. So when I sang it, rather than ‘carefully’ sing it, I sang it like I was shouting in tears. While this is mentioned on everyone’s comments, I am rather pleased with the ‘roar’ before the final chorus. The initial demo tape did not contain such a melody line, so I wondered if I could stretch my voice tidily. Then I thought, if I were driven into a corner like Sheryl, there’s no way I could sing tidily, so I basically tried to shout intensely while trying to stretch my voice.

During the recording of this song, Kanno-san (Kanno Youko) cheered ‘Sheryl-sama~!!’ many times. And when we were doing the part where the lyrics went ‘Kiete shimae’: ‘I understand!!!’ — by Kanno-san"

Don't think too much about the spoilers, usually they leave out 80% of the story.

[Seifall]

Originally Posted by magnuskn

I don´t think so. Ranka will follow her oni-chan to the center of the galaxy, while Alto and Sheryl live happily ever after.

Originally Posted by crisis

So I was telling my shipmates for the past few weeks, I am THIS CLOSE

-------------------------> <-------------------------

to shipping S.S Branka. THIS CLOSE. The only thing that's stopping me is the heavy implications of Brera = brother, but considering how Kawamori laughed at our faces about Pineapple Salad, I'm willing to bet Brera isn't her blood-related brother, but an adopted one, or Ranka being adopted.

You heard it here first.

So we come back to the main love triangle with two men and one girl.
I though I'm willing to bet Brera isn't her blood-related brother, but an adopted one, or Ranka being adopted. that too because since episode 7 they didn't give that much hint about him being her brother . But who is her real brother then ?