2019-01-05, 07:33 | Link #363 |
is this so?
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Watched episode 8-12:
Obviously the right thing to do for Futaba to delete that account with lewd pics, who knows what kind of creep she could attract with such a thing. Fortunately, Sakuta was there to act as bodyguard. Nodoka get's to live as her sister for a short time. Mai is amazing to be able to learn sing and dance in such a short time. Good for Kaede, Mai is sucha nice person.. if Sakuta and Mai get married. Kaede can tag along with no problem. Kaede so far, has one of the scarier puberty syndromes.. she gets wounded like a curse, faints, memory loss, and a bunch of other things. Amazing that Sakuta was able to handle such a situation, good thing Shouko was there for him.
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2019-01-06, 21:30 | Link #365 |
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This was my favorite this past season. Very refreshing to see reasonable, mature characters all around. Both the leads are genuinely good people with a stable head above their shoulders.
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2019-01-07, 06:58 | Link #366 |
is this so?
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Watched episode 13:
I guess the issue here is Sakuta is sad because the "2 year old" Kaede died when her memories came back. Goodbye panda pyjama imouto. Makinohara Shouko adult version comes to the house. The mystery about her become deeper. The fact that her short written letter can affect Mai, I stand by the belief that the adult Shouko is a real entity, and not just a figment of Sakuta's imagination. Snow weather helped Sakuta get closer to Mai. I guess this is a good place to end season 1. Now, to wait for the movie.
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2019-01-07, 15:42 | Link #368 |
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Yup. His old sister is back, but his younger sister who he was even more emotional attached maybe is now gone. And in his view he was again powerless.
Hence his breakdown. And Shouko apparently had crying in rain radar. I'm thinking that she likely did not exist before Sakuta had his first breakdown. And I would not call her a figment of his imagination. She is pretty real, because as we have seen the Syndrome has no trouble spawning entire people as it needs. But I might be wrong. But she certainly is a wierd one. Novels: Given that Hiragana inherited teh library from kanji one, and that she probably educated herself using it... what is the chance that she got her brocon ideas from all the LNs with imoutos Especially since she did not have the drive to not see her bro in sexual way since she didn't remmember him apart from these years they spent together.
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2019-01-11, 06:25 | Link #369 |
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Don't think Kaede sees anyone in a sexual way, her imouto antics aren't quite appropriate, but seem innocent and chaste. If she had any ideas about sex with her brother the realism and humour of the show would go down the toilet, along with some other things.
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2019-01-14, 22:29 | Link #370 |
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I've just finished this season. Absolutely perfect. I've liken it to Bakemonogatari but more streamlined and lighter tone.
The relationship between Sakuta and Mai is pitch perfect and I'm really happy how she still remains involved in the plot despite not being the heroine of the arc. This is something a lot of series of this type suffers from, like the previously mentioned Bakemonogatari. I also like how they don't string the other girls around and try to have things both ways like alot of other shows. This really sells the honesty of the romance between the two main leads. Thankfully the main pairing is also very likable so I'm never left wanting for another girl.
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Having finally crossed the finish line for Aobuta, and having entered with the concern that this series would take its quantum mechanics metaphor as discussions suggested it would, I was most relieved to learn that Aobuta fortunately did not go down this route, instead choosing to focus on the human aspects of each individual that Sakuta helps out. This is the heart of Aobuta, rather than any purported scientific or philosophical piece that is quite honestly, a waste of time to consider. Having said this, there are a few misconceptions that have arisen with regard to Aobuta in existing discussions that should be addressed so the misconceptions do not propagate into discussions surrounding the upcoming film. It seems I'm not the only one who thinks so, either.
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There is a recurring pattern in Aobuta: quantum mechanics and philosophy are the means, not the end, and it is ultimately the human solutions that count for something. This is especially evident with Rio: as she progresses through Aobuta, she begins explaining fewer concepts to Sakuta and merely gives him a book on introductory quantum mechanics, suggesting that she knows the limitations in her understanding of “Adolescence Syndrome” and therefore, leaves the rest to Sakuta. The series likewise begins to dispense with the quantum mechanics as it progresses. Overall, the so-called pseudo-scientific and psuedo-philosophical concepts in the series do not come into play as significantly as one would think, and while some have found these to be what made Aobuta enjoyable, I argue that attempts to draw parallels between real-world concepts and Sakuta’s encounters are ultimately unnecessary. In fact, by focusing so much on the minutiae, one’s experience is diminished – reading conversation about such also gives the incorrect impression that the series is driven by science and philosophy. Aobuta does not require any working knowledge of quantum theory or philosophy to be enjoyable, and a focus on these is actually counterproductive, since the series is about youth and how they sort out their problems, first and foremost. Last edited by Excalibur08; 2019-06-05 at 23:27. |
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2019-06-05, 23:25 | Link #373 |
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Looking through this thread, I won't name names, but there were definitely some who took the physics components in a literal sense and attempted to analyse them. I'm also in the camp that there was little to be gained by looking too closely at the phenomenon as having a scientific basis, and are curious as to what the justification for doing so might be.
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2019-06-08, 11:36 | Link #374 |
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Yeah, the whole physics angle is just Rio trying to find a model that even VAGUELY fits the problem at hand, and in the novels she is pretty adamant that even though she is presenting all these theories, no way in hell can the Adolesence Syndrome be explained by science.
To me, it seems that the first case kinda instilled certain preconceptions that simply do not hold in later ones. Like the idea that it's all caused by collective preception of people by the society. Which I fail do see how it could be in the case of Siscon Idol. IMHO, the Syndrome seems to have inflicted on it's victims precisely what they have wanted, even if they didn't even imagine the consequences. And each of these cases is pretty much less about the Syndrome itself than as a useful viehicle to explore the troubles of the youth. (note I have also read the translated parts of the novels, translation of which is now stalled in the Nodoka arc, so I don't really have any particular shocking book only revelations BUT some things have been given more details and at this point I can't figure out where have I learned of each thing) Mai: With Mai she notes early on that at first she REALLY liked the effects of her syndrome in that she could go to places where she would be treated as just another nobody rather than THAT MAI SAKURAJIMA. So it's pretty obvious she wasn't the greatest fan of stardom. She likes her job, but not the bits where people point fingers at her. And the syndrome gave her the seemingly perfect solution for this... except that now as Sakuta puts it it's gotten to the point she can't even buy a bun at the train station. And this is the only case really TBH that doesn't rely on slipping the "victim's" view point and fixing her issues to stop it, but more breaking the hold of it by forcing people to notice Mai. So this is also the only case where really the "atmosphere" figures into things. The real focus of this case is the almost oppressive collective "atmosphere" that young suffer under since it seeks to make everyone conform and if anyone is even through no fault of their own bucking the trends such person will likely get ostracized. And we see this in multiple forms in this case. There is of course the idea that one shouldn't initiate anything with Mai since it would be akward, and so she is left alone. There is the whole bit with the rumors about how Sakura got his scars in which pretty much the entire school takes him as some violent individual and would not be caught dead hanging around with him and his best bro's GF will do anything to break them apart. Koga: With Koga I'm not entirely sure. The focus of her case, that is the issues portrayed, are probably the problems faced with young needing to fit in and ardently conform with what others expect from them or else potentially face ostracization, kinda like what happened with Kaede TBH. Although I think the focus is more on how being HYPER about following the whims of the peers. But that's not really the focus of this arc I feel. And in a way the end message is that it's fine to be even this hyper about it IF you are happy with it. And Koga genuinely being part of the Queen Bee's circle and being the cool fashionable one, even though to do that she needs to devote all her waking moments to it. In this case, I feel her Syndrome likely is the solution to her desperate need to find SOME WAY of avioding having to dump the sports guy and in her mind face loosing her hard won status. Hell it could even be her need to find a way to replace the sports guy with Sakuta as potential BF since she started being interested in him. This is I think where the explanations some of the characters theorize in the show and some take as gospel start unraveling. Supposedly Koga is so sensitive to what people think and how their perceptions will change and so her Syndrome gave her the ability to predict the future and roll the dice untill she finds the right combination of events to get what she wants. Except we are given no real idea that she has ever done this before or since given how bevildered even she is about this. Also this kinda fails to account for why Sakuta of all people is not affected by her resets, or better say why would Sakuta be aware of predictions she did in her mind of how things might shake out. Futaba: Yeah, as the article noted with her this really wasn't anything fancy like the intelectual vs. the carnal or like. Again with this case the writer seeks to explore another issue facing young, and in this case young females who are expiriencing their awakening into adulthood. Novels are much explicit on this, given that there is a pretty long section where Sakuta talks with a reporter about the toppic of girls posting revealing pictures online and why do they do it. Which is basically the toppic of this case. In Rio's case she has always thought of herself as the unnoticeable shy silent nerd, except once she hit puberty and her body started changing males suddenly started paying attention to her. More disturbingly for her they started paying attention to her body rather than her. And this is something that started even before she started HS and met Kurumi. This all comes to head once she lacking the validation of her looks (she actively tries to hide) from the one boy she wants to be interested in her she starts seeking it from people online by posting pictures fro the thrill of it. This causes the divide between the Rio who is uncomfortable with the attention and fears change of status quo and the other side of her which seeks attention through her looks. And so the Syndrome splits them, and only do they come back together once they come to terms with one another. One should note that there is really no point here where the "atmosphere" or anything of the sort could have logcaly intruded upon this. The actual mechanics of the Sndrome are kept vague because they aren't really the point other than things tend to settle once the key emotional problem is resolved. Nodoka: The article mentions that Nodoka and Mai switched bodies, which is incorrect. They have VISIBLY and it's kinda obvious from the start changed themselves to look like the other. This case probably more than others shows how little any kind of atmosphere or any scientific thing is at play because this is a largely personal Syndrome case between two people and I don't think even Rio tries to provide an explanation. This just seems to happen because both Mai and Nodoka craved what the other had (mother who loves her in case of the former and fame and ability in case of later I think) and so they got just that. They got to BE Mai or to be Nodoka, unfortunately for Nodoka this did not come with skills and expirience. Kaede: With Kaede, her actual syndrome and issue was that it seems as a result of what was happening to her of how to her her life was imploding around her what with nobody seemingly liking her any more she DESPERATELY wanted to be someone else and forget this whole thing, and so Hiragana Kaede was born. Someone simple that didn't have Kaede-san's problems even though she exchanged them with another set of them. And like in other ones, as soon as she has resolved her hangups, and decided she wants to return to the society AND that her peers no longer blamed or wished her ill, the Syndrome ended and the Kaede-san was back. Sakuta: His is rather simple, at least I think so. he felt INTENSE rage at himself for not being there or being able to help his sister. He was so angry at himself he wanted to hurt himself, and so he did, and this is also why the scar started bleedign again once Kaede-san returned, because he felt he failed her again. And even though I have this elaborate theory on how it kinda works, I still say the actual mechanics are likely to remain a mystery and aren't really the point of this all. They are more used to hilight the issues rather than to be the subject at hand.
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Ultimately, I saw a show that was very enjoyable for the characters. What really gets my goat is why people think Freud is still relevant (especially in anime) when those particular models have been dismissed by the scholarly community for being incomplete, inadequate or inconclusive.
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Probably for two reasons.
A) they are simple to understand yet obscure enough so that people who like to feel all knowing tend to go for them B) a LOT of writing was made on basis of it because A.
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