So, does the three other 'heroes' ever get vilified by the public? Summary mentioned the MC was declared victor by default due to the other hero's foul play,oes that mean the King forced to admit in public that he rigged the duel between MC and the other hero?
if you are talking about public execution or convicted, then no, but they will face the consequence of their method later on, well Naofumi revenge too, in the case of foul play, there isn't much talk about it, so it seem that the King stop it somehow, well it did involved both the King and princess
if you are talking about public execution or convicted, then no, but they will face the consequence of their method later on, well Naofumi revenge too, in the case of foul play, there isn't much talk about it, so it seem that the King stop it somehow, well it did involved both the King and princess
What I meant is that does the public now know that the three 'heroes' are scum?So basically, it's now an open secret that the King and the princess rigged the duel?
it didn't talk about it in the web version but judging by the people reaction, i guess it is silenced.
That's too bad.
Just read the review on the Chinese forum I generally visit: they say that the first volume was interesting, but as the story progressed, the series starts to become 'congested', with the author introducing way too many poorly developed characters. The Chinese readers there also believed that plot holes are becoming apparent and that the author was at times intentionally 'dragging' the story so to speak.I still hope those guys would translate the series eventually though....
A daughter from destroyed noble family, she is saved by Hero of Bow, Itsuki. She has a crush on Itsuki and followed Itsuki as his newest party member. However, she gets bullied by the other party members, becoming their stooge. Later the other framed her for breaking Itsuki equipment (or item?) and result in her banished from the party. She become depressed and cried. Motoyasu who tried to hit on her, became uneasy of her after knowing that she still has a crush on Itsuki (Motoyasu has trauma with yangire or yandere type of girl, as he is killed by one of them before being summoned). Motoyasu told Naofumi to cheer her up, and Naofumi did so, but Rishia didn't tell him anything. Naofumi asked Motoyasu if he happens to know, and after hearing the story, he confronts Itsuki directly, enraged of what Itsuki had done. Itsuki defend himself by saying it was Rishia fault and he's doing some favor for her, sending her back to her hometown so she can be safe (this heavily implies that Itsuki thought Rishia is so weak, and therefore throw her away just like that). Naofumi then went to search for Rishia. He then found Filo carrying Rishia on her back, apparently Rishia attempted to do a suicide by jumping to the sea. Naofumi invite her to join his party member, to increase her level so that Itsuki might want to invite her again. Rishia is hesitant at first, but finally accept. Rishia is a jack-of-all-trades, her stats is average and lower than Laftalia or Filo, but her various skills and her cleverness help as vice-leader of party.
Spoiler for Kage:
"Kage" is a name used for member of special squad of Merulomarg, they are trained assassins, directly under order from the Queen and do many secret missions. They resemble "Ninja", and mastered many skills along that line. There is one "Kage" who is trusted very much by the Queen, working as Melty escort, this "Kage" also become the queen double. She helped Naofumi on many occassion. This "Kage" that Naofumi acquintances with, has a habit to use "-gozaru" at the end of her sentence.
Spoiler:
Naofumi was going to run away to that country, but The soldiers of Merulomarg guard the border, and with no other choice, he runs to different direction, following "Kage" instruction
Spoiler:
Naofumi and party Vs Motoyasu and party. their battle is obstructed midway, by the appearance of the Pope.
4th volume is going to be released 25th of February.
Spoiler for :
No. Apparently the Queen falls in love with the King, when he still was "The Wise King".
After Risha partied with Naofumi does she still want to be with Itsuki?
By the way is there no other way to get out of that country unless they went over the border.
You said Motoyasu already died in RL does that mean all the other have already died or in Limbo. Just like Little Busters the game true route.
Just a few questions about spoilers I've read from another forum. Is it true that Laftalia
Spoiler for questions about some spoilers:
dies and just before she does so, asks the MC to use her body to augment his shield? Wasn't quite sure, the way they said it on the other forum was a bit vague.
Just a few questions about spoilers I've read from another forum. Is it true that Laftalia
Spoiler for questions about some spoilers:
dies and just before she does so, asks the MC to use her body to augment his shield? Wasn't quite sure, the way they said it on the other forum was a bit vague.
It sounds really good, since i already know there's no translation, are there any detailed summarys of the already published volumes? I mean, besides what amatsunagi has kindly posted here already.
No, not yet. this is unnoticed, by most people. It would be different if this get published by Dengeki or famitsu... maybe~
Quote:
Originally Posted by dragon1412
Spoiler for spoil:
yes, he is a hero after all, though i forget that all the time
as what Naofumi said, "Hero's just normal human, not a perfect selfless being"
Let's add more to make it clear:
Spoiler for politic:
Merulomarg already went war to the 2 countries twice. twice, Orto Clay the king, managed to protect Merulomarg from them. For this achievement, he is hailed as hero and wise king. Now, those wars, twice, made human and human-beast a bitter enemy. And then, Heroes, the 4 heroes... only the Hero of Shield is kind to the human-beast, while the others not, this made the human-beast country accepting the Hero of Shield as their sole hero, while Merulomarg frowns upon it. These differences, split the original teaching of "4 Heroes" into separate teachings, one of it is "The 3 Heroes" and "The Hero of Shield", obviously the teaching of "3 Heroes" only grows in Merulomarg, and the king supports it. However, behind the kings back, the Church, are plotting something. The Queen realize this, but she have her hands full with handling the diplomacy, calming down the other countries who is angry at Merulomarg. After that comes Naofumi whose circumstances makes things worst. In short:
- The King hate human-beast, and Naofumi is the target of his hatred, since he is the hero worshipped by them.
- The people of Merulomarg relationship with human-beast countries are strained, caused by the wars.
- The people of Merulomarg, revered the king as wise, his popularity is strong.
- Naofumi's reputation is really bad, this caused the relationship of two sides become even more tense: there's no way the human-beast countries would be silent, having their only hero getting mocked like that.
- The Church of 3 Heroes ride on the situation to further their ambition.
- Even if Naofumi does the right things (Protecting villagers, aiding in evacuation), this just fuel The King and The Church. They feel that Naofumi actions are turning the people trust towards him, and that means, showing that both The King and The Church are wrong.
- The Queen, fearing the Church of 3 heroes, can do nothing. If she makes a wrong move, she will only makes more enemies from inside. She's already have her hands full on the outside. The King action of summoning the 4 heroes goes against the treaty made between countries, this almost caused some nobles to rebel and usurp the throne from Royal family. And the last thing, she doesn't have any proof to valid her action against the Church of 3 heroes.
- While The queen is trying her best outside, calming the other countries, on inside, Malty, the 1st princess use the countries treasury for her and Motoyasu. This slowed the country restoration. I really really pity the Queen, having to deal with lots of problems caused by her husband and daughter...
- Naofumi is the Queen hope to bridge the peace between two sides, and to save Merulomarg from other countries invasion.
Spoiler for About the duel:
- Naofumi names are bad, no one would believe him.
- The King will do anything to make his and Malty, his daughter, right. And of course, he is The King. So no spectators could say anything, or they will face punishment. By the way, the spectators are all noble. The banquet is in the castle.
- Ren and Itsuki are the one who speak for Naofumi, and because they are heroes, all the others (including The King) can do is just nod their head. But then again, this just out of pity for Naofumi, and respect for Laftalia. Doesn't mean that Naofumi reputation getting better in front of nobles and such. I believe the spectators will still side with the King.
- The end of the duel, left a bad taste for The King, even for a little, Naofumi already shamed him in front of others. His daughter is doing a foul play, even if no one said it: it is pretty clear. Not to mention Naofumi already talk back to the King in rude manners, of course the King will be even more steamed.
After that, the 3 heroes makes blunders and Naofumi is the one who clean their mess. These makes the 3 heroes fame down a bit, while Naofumi fame increased, the King doesn't like it, why? Of course, because the King will also get his own share of splashes from the 3 heroes mistakes, and what if the truth of that day get leaked? you get the picture. The more Naofumi raise his fame, the bad situation gets for the King who stands in his way.
In other words, I just repeat what dragon1412 had said with my own words ^^
@sunsown:
Spoiler:
- Naofumi is like an idol. There is this part where one human beast soldier (of Merulomarg) asked his friend to meet with him. He asked for Naofumi sign and get it, unfortunately for him, his room get ransacked and he lost the sign, along with the clothes. This is done by those fanatics human beast. Actually, Shiltoverd already sent people to contact Naofumi (3 days after the heroes summoning), but Naofumi rejected them, reason: he is in a depressed state.
- No explanation of the Calamity, or maybe I just didn't pay attention...but IIRC, nope not yet.
- After defeating the Pope, as dragon1412 said, The king and the 1st princess, Malty will receives their punishment from Naofumi, "by proxy (and permission)" from the Queen. The 2nd princess, Melty is choosen to be the next Queen, and so, she will have to study harder for the future. This means she will not be able to go adventure with Naofumi and co. but she will still can get in touch with them, especially Filo, her best *cough* intimate *cough* friend.
The Queen spares the 3 Heroes from Naofumi revenges because she needs them to fight against the Calamities. After that the queen arranged all 4 heroes to train together, and around this time, Naofumi will meet with party members of the 3 heroes, one of them is Rishia.
- Correction: Slave level is Lvl 75 (my mistake). Naofumi didn't choose that slave because of 3 reasons: he doesn't have enough money (15 gold, while he only have 40 silver), he doesn't believe that slave will 100% obey him (hard to control), Naofumi think the slave will just obstruct him and therefore not suited to what Naofumi had in mind. Naofumi know the slave trader is testing him and tried to get Naofumi trust by showing him the best goods, fortunately, Naofumi is very skillful in negotiating, and merchant trick like this is not effective to him.
The name of 2 human-beast country is: Shiltoverd and Shieldfreeden. these names could be wrong since I'm...bad at this.
Hope it's clear enough ^^
@kazzuya:
Spoiler:
- Rishia reason to join Naofumi is too become stronger, and makes Itsuki invite her again. Rishia declared her heart only belongs to Itsuki.
- There's many road to rome, but the border is the fastest, and Naofumi can't risk getting catched, by loitering around trying to make a roundabout.
- I guess Motoyasu just miraculously survived, He get summoned when he get killed (or maybe was about to)
@darthfanta
Spoiler:
One of the title later is "The Girl who become the Shield", I haven't reached that yet but I already have a guess for who that girl is.
Quote:
Originally Posted by darthfanta
That's too bad.
Just read the review on the Chinese forum I generally visit: they say that the first volume was interesting, but as the story progressed, the series starts to become 'congested', with the author introducing way too many poorly developed characters. The Chinese readers there also believed that plot holes are becoming apparent and that the author was at times intentionally 'dragging' the story so to speak.I still hope those guys would translate the series eventually though....
I have to agree with that: from 1 arc to arc 4 it is very interesting, volume 1 is the best. But starting from arc 5, it start to lose a bit of it's tempo, "dragging" the story a bit, and falling down on quality of serious theme, swapped by lots of comedies. The author didn't flesh out side-characters (I'm actually having some hope for Keele, but turns out to be Naofumi's hachiko), some of them didn't even get their name introduced. But overall, I'll still rate this high.
No, not yet. this is unnoticed, by most people. It would be different if this get published by Dengeki or famitsu... maybe~
as what Naofumi said, "Hero's just normal human, not a perfect selfless being"
Let's add more to make it clear:
Spoiler for politic:
Merulomarg already went war to the 2 countries twice. twice, Orto Clay the king, managed to protect Merulomarg from them. For this achievement, he is hailed as hero and wise king. Now, those wars, twice, made human and human-beast a bitter enemy. And then, Heroes, the 4 heroes... only the Hero of Shield is kind to the human-beast, while the others not, this made the human-beast country accepting the Hero of Shield as their sole hero, while Merulomarg frowns upon it. These differences, split the original teaching of "4 Heroes" into separate teachings, one of it is "The 3 Heroes" and "The Hero of Shield", obviously the teaching of "3 Heroes" only grows in Merulomarg, and the king supports it. However, behind the kings back, the Church, are plotting something. The Queen realize this, but she have her hands full with handling the diplomacy, calming down the other countries who is angry at Merulomarg. After that comes Naofumi whose circumstances makes things worst. In short:
- The King hate human-beast, and Naofumi is the target of his hatred, since he is the hero worshipped by them.
- The people of Merulomarg relationship with human-beast countries are strained, caused by the wars.
- The people of Merulomarg, revered the king as wise, his popularity is strong.
- Naofumi's reputation is really bad, this caused the relationship of two sides become even more tense: there's no way the human-beast countries would be silent, having their only hero getting mocked like that.
- The Church of 3 Heroes ride on the situation to further their ambition.
- Even if Naofumi does the right things (Protecting villagers, aiding in evacuation), this just fuel The King and The Church. They feel that Naofumi actions are turning the people trust towards him, and that means, showing that both The King and The Church are wrong.
- The Queen, fearing the Church of 3 heroes, can do nothing. If she makes a wrong move, she will only makes more enemies from inside. She's already have her hands full on the outside. The King action of summoning the 4 heroes goes against the treaty made between countries, this almost caused some nobles to rebel and usurp the throne from Royal family. And the last thing, she doesn't have any proof to valid her action against the Church of 3 heroes.
- While The queen is trying her best outside, calming the other countries, on inside, Malty, the 1st princess use the countries treasury for her and Motoyasu. This slowed the country restoration. I really really pity the Queen, having to deal with lots of problems caused by her husband and daughter...
- Naofumi is the Queen hope to bridge the peace between two sides, and to save Merulomarg from other countries invasion.
Spoiler for About the duel:
- Naofumi names are bad, no one would believe him.
- The King will do anything to make his and Malty, his daughter, right. And of course, he is The King. So no spectators could say anything, or they will face punishment. By the way, the spectators are all noble. The banquet is in the castle.
- Ren and Itsuki are the one who speak for Naofumi, and because they are heroes, all the others (including The King) can do is just nod their head. But then again, this just out of pity for Naofumi, and respect for Laftalia. Doesn't mean that Naofumi reputation getting better in front of nobles and such. I believe the spectators will still side with the King.
- The end of the duel, left a bad taste for The King, even for a little, Naofumi already shamed him in front of others. His daughter is doing a foul play, even if no one said it: it is pretty clear. Not to mention Naofumi already talk back to the King in rude manners, of course the King will be even more steamed.
After that, the 3 heroes makes blunders and Naofumi is the one who clean their mess. These makes the 3 heroes fame down a bit, while Naofumi fame increased, the King doesn't like it, why? Of course, because the King will also get his own share of splashes from the 3 heroes mistakes, and what if the truth of that day get leaked? you get the picture. The more Naofumi raise his fame, the bad situation gets for the King who stands in his way.
In other words, I just repeat what dragon1412 had said with my own words ^^
@sunsown:
Spoiler:
- Naofumi is like an idol. There is this part where one human beast soldier (of Merulomarg) asked his friend to meet with him. He asked for Naofumi sign and get it, unfortunately for him, his room get ransacked and he lost the sign, along with the clothes. This is done by those fanatics human beast. Actually, Shiltoverd already sent people to contact Naofumi (3 days after the heroes summoning), but Naofumi rejected them, reason: he is in a depressed state.
- No explanation of the Calamity, or maybe I just didn't pay attention...but IIRC, nope not yet.
- After defeating the Pope, as dragon1412 said, The king and the 1st princess, Malty will receives their punishment from Naofumi, "by proxy (and permission)" from the Queen. The 2nd princess, Melty is choosen to be the next Queen, and so, she will have to study harder for the future. This means she will not be able to go adventure with Naofumi and co. but she will still can get in touch with them, especially Filo, her best *cough* intimate *cough* friend.
The Queen spares the 3 Heroes from Naofumi revenges because she needs them to fight against the Calamities. After that the queen arranged all 4 heroes to train together, and around this time, Naofumi will meet with party members of the 3 heroes, one of them is Rishia.
- Correction: Slave level is Lvl 75 (my mistake). Naofumi didn't choose that slave because of 3 reasons: he doesn't have enough money (15 gold, while he only have 40 silver), he doesn't believe that slave will 100% obey him (hard to control), Naofumi think the slave will just obstruct him and therefore not suited to what Naofumi had in mind. Naofumi know the slave trader is testing him and tried to get Naofumi trust by showing him the best goods, fortunately, Naofumi is very skillful in negotiating, and merchant trick like this is not effective to him.
The name of 2 human-beast country is: Shiltoverd and Shieldfreeden. these names could be wrong since I'm...bad at this.
Hope it's clear enough ^^
@kazzuya:
Spoiler:
- Rishia reason to join Naofumi is too become stronger, and makes Itsuki invite her again. Rishia declared her heart only belongs to Itsuki.
- There's many road to rome, but the border is the fastest, and Naofumi can't risk getting catched, by loitering around trying to make a roundabout.
- I guess Motoyasu just miraculously survived, He get summoned when he get killed (or maybe was about to)
@darthfanta
Spoiler:
One of the title later is "The Girl who become the Shield", I haven't reached that yet but I already have a guess for who that girl is.
I have to agree with that: from 1 arc to arc 4 it is very interesting, volume 1 is the best. But starting from arc 5, it start to lose a bit of it's tempo, "dragging" the story a bit, and falling down on quality of serious theme, swapped by lots of comedies. The author didn't flesh out side-characters (I'm actually having some hope for Keele, but turns out to be Naofumi's hachiko), some of them didn't even get their name introduced. But overall, I'll still rate this high.
Let's hope he fixed that with the book version
Spoiler for HEAVY SPOILER:
the girl who become the shield is Atla and fortunately she return and become part of Naofumi harem at the very end. Btw, she has Naofumi's 1st kiss too
the girl who become the shield is Atla and fortunately she return and become part of Naofumi harem at the very end. Btw, she has Naofumi's 1st kiss too
Ah, so it really is Atla. Well, she did said she wanted to be like Laftalia. While Laftalia is Naofumi sword, Atla wished to be Naofumi shield. Atla is cute, she reminds me to...errm Yuzuha or Yuzuriha was it? from Utawarerumono.
Spoiler for Heavy spoiler king and princess punishment:
They lost their royalty status, forced to fight in the frontline and help heroes. Orto clay will be punished by the queen personally several times later, for example forced to dress like the "wise king" who is naked in front of public. As for Malty, she will work to pay for her debt to the country. A slave curse is also put on her (a strong one used for strong monster). Harassing Naofumi will only increased her debt.
Lastly, the most disgraceful punishment they get: Orto clay Merulomarg and Malty Merulomarg name is erased, and forbid to be uttered. The King name is changed into "Trash", and The 1st princess name is changed into "Bitch" (name registered at the guild is "Whore"). This change applied to the history book and any written media on that country.
Well, at least they should be thankful they didn't get executed. Am I the only strange one for having LOLed at this chapter?
Ah, so it really is Atla. Well, she did said she wanted to be like Laftalia. While Laftalia is Naofumi sword, Atla wished to be Naofumi shield. Atla is cute, she reminds me to...errm Yuzuha or Yuzuriha was it? from Utawarerumono.
Spoiler for Heavy spoiler king and princess punishment:
They lost their royalty status, forced to fight in the frontline and help heroes. Orto clay will be punished by the queen personally several times later, for example forced to dress like the "wise king" who is naked in front of public. As for Malty, she will work to pay for her debt to the country. A slave curse is also put on her (a strong one used for strong monster). Harassing Naofumi will only increased her debt.
Lastly, the most disgraceful punishment they get: Orto clay Merulomarg and Malty Merulomarg name is erased, and forbid to be uttered. The King name is changed into "Trash", and The 1st princess name is changed into "Bitch" (name registered at the guild is "Whore"). This change applied to the history book and any written media on that country.
Well, at least they should be thankful they didn't get executed. Am I the only strange one for having LOLed at this chapter?
What the heck did they do to get such punishment?I mean, what was the last straw before they get punished?I loled as well when I just read this.Is Malty still part of Motoyasu's party though?
Just count from the spoilers before how many mistakes The King and the Princess make.
Spoiler:
That last punishment, about changing their name is "punishment" from Naofumi. Initially he wanted them to be executed but the Queen asked him not to (She is still a mother and wife), so Naofumi remembered something from the book he read before and changed their name according to the book. It did suited them so it's fine, especially Bitch, honestly, they should just execute her, she is too much of a trouble.
Just count from the spoilers before how many mistakes The King and the Princess make.
Spoiler:
That last punishment, about changing their name is "punishment" from Naofumi. Initially he wanted them to be executed but the Queen asked him not to (She is still a mother and wife), so Naofumi remembered something from the book he read before and changed their name according to the book. It did suited them so it's fine, especially Bitch, honestly, they should just execute her, she is too much of a trouble.
What I meant was: what was the last mistake they made before the Queen finally had enough and cracked? Wasn't the King still popular enough to avoid being punished?