Wu Dong Qian Kun

[Narberal]

Original Title: Wu Dong Qian Kun (武动乾坤)
Author: 天蚕土豆 (same Author that wrote BTTH and The Great Ruler)

Synopsis:
On the Journey of Self-cultivation, One Requires Control of Ying and Yang , Good Fortune, To Reach for Nirvana, Mastery over Life and Death, Power over Reincarnation. At the peak of Martial Arts, break the Heavens and shake the Universe!


Translation:Wu Dong Qian Kun
Raws: http://www.qidian.com/Book/2048120.aspx


OPNESS:

Spoiler:

Currently he is the strongest youth in QingYang Town

Harem:

Spoiler:

Currently there is no romance yet

[mc2011]

Just find this one, and its a good read so far.

[whsie]

There is a cultivation ranking in this and it's one of the more complex ones I've come across. I gave it a shot of translating the ranking system over at YellowLaw and thought it would be appropriate to transfer it over here as well. See below.

Spoiler for Cultivation Hierarchy:

There is a cultivation ranking system, but it’s incredibly complicated to translate. Whereas Battle Through The Heaven had a very clear, Practitioner, Master, Great Master, Spirit, King, Emperor, Ancestor, Honored, Saint, God rank, the ranking titles in WDQK are much more… abstract dealing with Primal Energy, Life Energy, Death Energy, Creation, Nirvana, Reincarnation.

The first rank is Tempered (i.e. Hardened) Body. It’s just strengthening up the body. The key is to strengthen the bone to a degree so that there is a foundation for the later ranks.

The second rank 地元/Di Yuan is best described as Earthly Primal/Natural. The defining characteristic of this rank is being able to absorb the natural Yin energy in the air and combine it with the inherent primal energy for combat.

The third rank is 天元/Tian Yuan or Heavenly Primal/Natural. The defining characteristic of this rank is being able to absorb the natural Yang energy in the air and combine it with teh inherent primal energy for combat.

The fourth rank is 元丹/Yuan Dan or Primal/Natural Core. When the Yin energy and Yang energy successfully fuses (think of the Taiji symbol), a Primal Core develops in the dantian (diaphragm of the respiratory system). One of the characteristic of this rank is being able to temporarily float in the air even though fighters of this level are not able to move off the ground.

The Primal Core rank is further broken down into three sub tiers of Initial Primal Core小元丹, Initial Mastery Primal Core 元丹小圆满, Complete Mastery Primal Core元丹大圆满.

The fifth rank is 造化 or Creation stage. This rank itself is again broken down into three sub tiers of Form Creation 造形, Qi/Energy Creation造气, and then just Creation造化. Each of these three sub tiers have a initial 小成 or complete mastery distinction大成. That means there is technically 6 levels to move through.

The sixth rank is 涅槃 or Nirvana stage. There is 9 enlightenment/cycles to complete. Each cycle is essentially a life/death event. Each time you succeed, your soul becomes stronger and stronger. The downside is that there is a legit risk of death for each of the 9 cycles.

The seventh rank is 生玄 or the Celestial Life stage. To achieve this stage, the practitioner must take the previously cultivated primal energy (Yuan li) and convert it into Life Qi/Energy (生气). This rank is broken down into Initial, Initial Mastery, and Complete Mastery.

The eight rank is 死玄 or Celestial Death stage. To achieve this stage, the practitioner must take the previously converted Life Energy from the seventh rank and further process it into Death Qi/Energy (死气). This rank is also broken down into Initial, Initial Mastery, and Complete Mastery.

The ninth rank is 转轮 or probably Incarnate stage. In this stage, the practitioner combines life energy and death energy into one.

The tenth rank is 轮回 or Reincarnation stage. This is considered the peak of the world in WDQK. People within this stage have a command over life and death. Most people within this rank are able to reincarnate in another body and then retain their ability/skills once they’ve “awakened” in the new body. There are 3 reincarnation life/death obstacles. Unlike the nirvana stage, if the practitioner fails one of the obstacles/tests, they’re not completely dead because of their pre-mastery over life and death. Instead, they will reincarnate at an unknown time.

Combat wise, people within this stage usually have absolute mastery over one area. For example, one of the Ancient Fighters had complete mastery of Space, one had mastery over Darkness, one had mastery of Desolation, one had mastery of Lightning, one had mastery of Fire, one had mastery of Ice, one had mastery of Swallowing/Suction etc. Or alternatively, it seemed the strongest beasts were also in this rank e.g. the Nine Tailed Fox or Desolate Dragon Ancestor.

There is a higher stage above Reincarnation called the Ancestor Realm (祖境). This rank is not achievable by normal training and the resources within the this world. This is technically a rank reserved for the Upper World (from Da Zhu Zai). There has only ever been one person in the history of WDQK who achieved this rank and he was not from this world. In other words, he was already this powerful when he came to the world in WDQK. This rank is so powerful that the practitioner is able to sense every soul (dead or alive) in the world. The person is basically able to have a god’s omnipotent sense of the world.

[wuhugm]

All these chinese novels are about cultivation huh... training and training... and training and training...

[s.a.w..]

You could read a story about ancient (fictional) politics if you don't like the training! I don't particularly look for them, but I'm sure they're out there.

[wuhugm]

^well, just dun wanna be like Linley, Alice got NTR'ed coz he was a training baka... and then he became even more training baka..... tone down the training a bit will ya...

btw, all these novels have a clearly defined cultivation/evolution hierarchy, like anyone can be classified into something... and it's a public knowledge!

so like, those guys on 10th stage up there, they reincarnated and then publicly announced it? hei yo, this is the last stage, y'all can't kill moi~ I can keep spawning like online game! Final Stage yo!

Normally the world is full of unknown things... imho...

[s.a.w..]

Well yes, however take into account that the idea behind the levels is to separate qualitative and quantitative changes in practice. As such it is like oil: you start by processing liquid oil into a thicker liquid, then rubber, then you process it into plastic, etc... Take gas and compress it to a degree and you get liquid, and although generally the idea of compressing liquid to this degree is absurd, you compress liquid enough and it will become solid, and if you ignore all types of limitations you may be able to compress a solid to the degree that you imitate the state of matter that is only theoretical: stopping the movement of molecules in the object completely.

[wuhugm]

exactly, just like those examples, we can't clearly define which one is more valuable... when we are in dire needs of rubber, plastic will drop in value...

but these levels in chinese just keep going up... nobody wants to be gasoline... everybody wants to be jet fuel.... people who stop at lower stages are dropouts... nobody can just say "I like my ability in 4th stage, dun wanna lvl up anymore"

That MC in Doulou Dalu should just try to be successful at farming with his blue grass... All these battle freaks don't care about anything but fighting.... fighting > training > be a god
How selfish are these people!? Respect those people who actually contributes to the world! The Farmers, The Builders, The Bureaucrats! And they be proud of being a gangster boss in actuality!

.................

Sorry, I'm high..... the hell I'm saying.......

[Ophis]

Originally Posted by wuhugm

^well, just dun wanna be like Linley, Alice got NTR'ed coz he was a training baka... and then he became even more training baka..... tone down the training a bit will ya...

btw, all these novels have a clearly defined cultivation/evolution hierarchy, like anyone can be classified into something... and it's a public knowledge!

so like, those guys on 10th stage up there, they reincarnated and then publicly announced it? hei yo, this is the last stage, y'all can't kill moi~ I can keep spawning like online game! Final Stage yo!

Normally the world is full of unknown things... imho...

LoL, Aline got NTR'ed because of money. Linley was rather attentive of her to be honest. He even offered to go live near her school so they could spend more time together. Unfortunately, the bitch sold herself because the other asshole had money.

I don't think the normal people actually know about the reincarnation thing. Why would they announce it to the World? It's obvious that the information about the 10th rank comes a lot later on in the story.

[dragon1412]

Originally Posted by wuhugm

exactly, just like those examples, we can't clearly define which one is more valuable... when we are in dire needs of rubber, plastic will drop in value...

but these levels in chinese just keep going up... nobody wants to be gasoline... everybody wants to be jet fuel.... people who stop at lower stages are dropouts... nobody can just say "I like my ability in 4th stage, dun wanna lvl up anymore"

That MC in Doulou Dalu should just try to be successful at farming with his blue grass... All these battle freaks don't care about anything but fighting.... fighting > training > be a god
How selfish are these people!? Respect those people who actually contributes to the world! The Farmers, The Builders, The Bureaucrats! And they be proud of being a gangster boss in actuality!

.................

Sorry, I'm high..... the hell I'm saying.......

You actually describe the entire world of Xianxia and most Wuxia just now Frankly, sometimes you actually questioned why their world is still intact with all those fight and where the hell did they managed to get food everywhere if there is no one taking care of them, very few chinese novels i seen managed to escape from this pattern and per chance they did, these selected few still have rather weak world building.

when i read Xianxia, 1 always have the question that is where the heck did the hierachy came from and who on earth make it.

[wuhugm]

Originally Posted by dragon1412

You actually describe the entire world of Xianxia and most Wuxia just now Frankly, sometimes you actually questioned why their world is still intact with all those fight and where the hell did they managed to get food everywhere if there is no one taking care of them, very few chinese novels i seen managed to escape from this pattern and per chance they did, these selected few still have rather weak world building.

when i read Xianxia, 1 always have the question that is where the heck did the hierachy came from and who on earth make it.

OhohOHH!!! What is this?! I can't believe this! Dragon is supporting my statement!? Is this a miracle?

Usually you were always on my ass, looking for a chance for incredible kancho

Well, being high sometimes bring fortunes ain't it

[dragon1412]

No i pretty sure i support whatever is reasonable.
Back on topic, frankly, this is precisely why every xianxia seem like a copy of each others. I didn't even comprehend how their world works. I mean, they break mountain after mountain as if they were sand castle, and magically, seem like plant is still able to grow despite living under that conditions. The hierarchy is also weird as well, when you found them fighting over something, it have to be an item that make them stronger, if they were to fight, the most likely reason is to prove i am stronger than you .... is there no one there actually thinking of anything beside training and xxx ???

[wuhugm]

huehuehue...
When I realized that fact, I just changed my thought process to "Xianxia/Wuxia IS training and battle" just like Friendship to Shounen Jump

BUT!

Even if training and battle is the main theme, doesn't mean the other aspects must be sacrificed for it. I was happy when romance brought into the game... but in no time the training and battle submerged them again...

I don't know but it seems all these chinese authors are like fanbase of shaolin temple or something... training like hell and then becomes God... an actual God... the upper limit seems kinda way out there in limbo... Which institution even formulized this hierarchy... how many eons they researched humanity to discover a perfect evolutionary tree till mortal becomes immortal?

and because these are the stories of these gods and gods wannabe, by all means they have no time to think about mortals who actually behaves like proper civilization... they took everything for granted, for instant gratification, and then destroying everything without remorse....

......seems I'm still high.....

[LevelSeven]

Originally Posted by wuhugm

How selfish are these people!? Respect those people who actually contributes to the world! The Farmers, The Builders, The Bureaucrats! And they be proud of being a gangster boss in actuality!

the funniest fact is that the "fighters" are actually respected figures, for what? dunno, they dont seem to do anything
on the other hand, all the people you mentioned get the "serve me or someone else"-card

[s.a.w..]

In these worlds they have attacks by monsters, fighters protect from the monsters, as for food, these worlds are China based where they make up for quality with quantity. Simply put there is such a massive number of people that even if one percent is made up of fighters it is still a huge number.

[dragon1412]

Originally Posted by s.a.w..

In these worlds they have attacks by monsters, fighters protect from the monsters, as for food, these worlds are China based where they make up for quality with quantity. Simply put there is such a massive number of people that even if one percent is made up of fighters it is still a huge number.

frankly, the fighters is actually do far more destruction and damaged compare to monster, we get to see when monster breath fire and stuff but 99% of the fighter is killing and destroying freaking mountains. And even the good guy among them cause enough collateral damage to put the monster into shame.

[s.a.w..]

What? I thought that was what heroes were supposed to do!


JK, but usually the mountains destroyed are out in the middle of nowhere. And most of the issues caused by fighters are them oppressing the people.

[whsie]

In regards to this training discussion, I will note that the vast, vast majority of of these Eastern Fantasy novels follow this type of framework. This significantly differs from the traditional chivalry/wuxia novels.

In the classics from Jin Yong (and Gu Long, Liang Yusheng), typically the goal is to achieve mastery over one type of martial art. Once mastery is achieved, the "ceiling" for that particular martial art is reached. In that sense, it's FAR more important in the traditional wuxia novels to find a strong martial arts manual than to just train, train, and train.

For example, Guo Jing from the Legend of the Condor Heroes basically became unbeatable with the 18 Dragon Subduing Palms and 9 Ying Sutra. Zhang Wuji from the Heavenly Sword and Dragon Saber basically became unbeatable within 5 years with the 9 Yang Sutra and Taiji Arts. In Xiao Li Fei Dao (Little Li Flying Daggers) from Gu Long, the MC just mastered the art of throwing daggers and became a top 3 figher. In all of these cases, the road to dominance lies in the martial art to train in. Once they obtain the martial art and master it, they're among the top 5 fighters in all of society. Because of this, the traditional wuxia authors typically has more time to focus on developing the actual plot, world, and relationships.

In comparison, because current Eastern Fantasy novels have a strict cultivation hierarchy, the author has to devote much more time writing about finding resources and training. In a way, it's much more RPG like.

[s.a.w..]

Just had a thought

Spoiler:

Might the MC be reincarnated, and before reincarnating he left the stone talisman behind and maybe arranged for Qing Tan who would be the reincarnation of his lover to be brought into the home he reincarnated to?

just a thought...

[dragon1412]

Originally Posted by whsie

In comparison, because current Eastern Fantasy novels have a strict cultivation hierarchy, the author has to devote much more time writing about finding resources and training. In a way, it's much more RPG like.

I think it's half and half, in Japanese novel with RPG setting, rather than level, it's actually the skill and how the skill is used what makes the differences, in CN, however, from what i have seen, the hierarchy is so strict that made to only let a selected few break it. And basically, while Jp novel trying to make their skill as unique as possible, CN is just Kamehameha with different name.