Log Horizon - Episode 8 Discussion / Poll

[Lightning_Wing]

Originally Posted by Sheba

Democratic is not the word the poster wanted to use, I think. "Sandbox-y" is closer to what make Log Horizon stand out compared to its more "railroaded" counterpart which spoonfed you with a goal and rules (clear the game, also you will die for real no but no if).

Elder Tales is closer to a western rpg such as Elder Scrolls or a sandbox MMO such as EVE Online. EVE is the most triumphant example of a player-driven MMO, in all of its aspects, from economy to politics. Elder Tales the world is the closest thing to EVE if it was a sandbox fantasy MMO.

Right, let me phrase my "democracy" statement a bit better.

In other anime based MMO's, and in MMORPG's in general, we see an end goal with structured game levels and so forth. I.e. SAO, where there is a clearly defined goal and general antagonism comes from one source, the game.

In Log Horizon's Elder Tales, we see no defined structure, no levels to pass (other than the quests, mentioned in passing), and we can see that the antagonists are both game monsters and other players, equally. Therefore, Elder Tales is somewhere between a democracy in its purest sense (as in without republican connotations, as alluded to) and anarchy.

(also, I realized that my post in general was actually aimed at episode 7. I haven't gotten to eight yet )

[doogzman]

Hi..new to the forums...there's something i dont get....how could guilds force people to be slaves ? i mean if they don't want to do it what is the worst thing they could do to them? if they try to kill them they would just end up in the cathedral right? or does it hurt if they attack them? just curious...thanks. :]

[Tenzen12]

They can beat them to pulp, kill them and after having one of their man fetching them in cathedral repeat whole proccess how many times they pleases.

[doogzman]

does it hurt them?

[WhiteJoker]

Originally Posted by doogzman

does it hurt them?

Yes but less so then in real life. Exactly how much less isn't elaborated on. Let's say sufficiently less that you can get into a fight with a giant monster with pointy teeth and sharp claws and not end up on the ground screaming in pain after being hit a few times.

[tsunade666]

Originally Posted by WhiteJoker

Yes but less so then in real life. Exactly how much less isn't elaborated on. Let's say sufficiently less that you can get into a fight with a giant monster with pointy teeth and sharp claws and not end up on the ground screaming in pain after being hit a few times.

it depends on your status.

level 90 shiroe doesn't feel pain from the fall he ended up in episode 4? or is it 3. The episode where they cross the palm.

But

for level 21 Minori, the level something ninja/assassin that grips her arm hurts.

it depends on the status

so for newbies. the apocalypse hurts them the most because they are new to the world and they can get hurt easily. remember the landers or people of the land also has levels.

So one can probably guess based on levels and stats.

[p-kun]

Originally Posted by WhiteJoker

Yes but less so then in real life. Exactly how much less isn't elaborated on. Let's say sufficiently less that you can get into a fight with a giant monster with pointy teeth and sharp claws and not end up on the ground screaming in pain after being hit a few times.

It is mentioned very early in the novel, but it seems to be skipped/censored in the anime.

Spoiler for LN spoiler:

Getting minor injury hurts like kicking your toes on to a hard rock. Getting killed hurts like breaking multiple bones. In short, hurts less than in real life, but enough that multiple PKs can be used as a mean of torture. This answer the questions why Minori, Touya, and the other newbies didn't just suicide to escape. To bad this is skipped in the anime.