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Jestersage · 2010-11-19, 13:47

Spoiler:

Squick.

Nayrael · 2010-11-19, 13:51

Spoiler for Chapter 132:

SageGaiGar · 2010-11-19, 15:32

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Originally Posted by Jestersage

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Squick.

Guess it'll be a couple more days to check this.

Key Board · 2010-11-19, 15:34

132

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evil|plushie · 2010-11-19, 22:06

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Sprite_Coke · 2010-11-19, 22:14

^ There are relationships without childredn.... You know, like sex buddies. One might argue this is a better relationship...

cyberdemon · 2010-11-19, 22:35

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Originally Posted by evil|plushie

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not necessarily. Rikuo's not half, he a fourth

Mizuno · 2010-11-19, 22:54

I thought them not having the ability to produce offspring with youkai isn't news. Remember that's the curse Kitsune put on the Nura clan, making the new generations weaker.

Though how this plays out... I don't know. It's becoming confusing who the host really is.

Nayrael · 2010-11-20, 06:44

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Originally Posted by evil|plushie

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I don't know where is getting that info that being half doesn't allow you to have children. It is Kitsune's curse that stops them from having children with youkai as mentioned already in both the Databook and hinted in the manga. Rikuo's and Tsurara's relationship is possible if the author wants it: you just need to find a way to break the curse.
And as Mizuno said already, this is old news.

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It's becoming confusing who the host really is.

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Key Board · 2010-11-20, 07:19

It becomes more confusing when you take into consideration that she can touch the seal in previous chapters. Something that supposedly only a human body can do.

I'm going to propose a new, if crazy theory

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aliasxn · 2010-11-20, 07:31

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Originally Posted by Key Board

It becomes more confusing when you take into consideration that she can touch the seal in previous chapters. Something that supposedly only a human body can do.

I'm going to propose a new, if crazy theory

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Spoiler for :

Nightengale · 2010-11-20, 07:50

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Rihan is 300+ years old, youkais are 'adults' at 13.

Wakana is anywhere from late 20s to early 40s.

There's.... sufficient amount of 'adulthood decades' in Rihan's life to have a woman or twenty before Wakana is even born.

Ravenblitz · 2010-11-20, 08:04

Nenekirimaru is destroyed... time to get a new weapon or rebuild it again just like the vongolas

can't wait for the next chapter to explain all these events

Jestersage · 2010-11-20, 12:22

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Originally Posted by Ravenblitz

Nenekirimaru is destroyed... time to get a new weapon or rebuild it again just like the vongolas

can't wait for the next chapter to explain all these events

Maybe he will use the Yousou Kioku (the scythe wielded by Akifusa) or a modified form? The scythe and Matoi are both based on spiritual procession.

Fenrir_valindri · 2010-11-20, 13:39

It is possible that she is a reincarnation of Rihan's former wife, and Seimei resurrected her because she would be the perfect host for his mother, and as an aside, they used her to kill Rihan because he looked like his former-wife and thus dropped his guard.

Key Board · 2010-11-20, 14:38

I think that's a very good theory.

But you might want to put that in spoilers

Mizuno · 2010-11-20, 17:21

I think we're getting close. Maybe we should think in lines of a homunculus rather than a perfect reincarnation? If she's the reincarnation, who gave birth to this host?

And what's left out in the translation is that Yamabuki Otome literally means "Kerria Maiden" and there's a Japanese waka about how the kerria flower grieving its inability to bear fruit...

Now it all makes sense. Rihan fell in love with a youkai but because of Kitsune's curse, they cannot produce offsprings. Ayakashi can live for hundreds of years so Yamabuki Otome most likely didn't die of age but she took her own life due to her sorrow.

Somehow Seimei was able to take advantage of Rihan's weakness and planned this whole orchestra to have him killed.

AvianWing · 2010-11-20, 19:43

I'm having a hard time believing that Rihan is actually dead, since this is shounen and all. I was actually expecting Rihan to burst in and save the day since Rikuo is obviously no match against Seimei.

Iggy_Pop · 2010-11-20, 20:11

Remember when people keep saying that somehow Nurarihyon is going to die which somehow will give Rikuo the boost to beat Gitsune? Remember how that never happen? Lots of people also keep saying that Gitsune will reveal that she killed Rihan and that Rikuo suddenly beat him in his anger like many other shonen heroes. Again, never happen.
Nuramago isn't exactly original, but doesn't mean it doesn't have it's fair share of subverting shonen tropes either. It's not really surprising if Rihan is dead

Mizuno · 2010-11-20, 20:13

And at the way things are developing... I'd prefer him to stay dead.

Btw, anyone notice Kitsune's still holding onto that dear bag of hers?

2010-11-19, 13:47	Link #661
Jestersage Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008	Spoiler: Gitsune's host is actually... one of Rihan's wife/concubine. Apparently is also a Yokai since when asked whether she's Rikuo's sister, Nurarihyon stated "Rihan can not produce a child with another Yokai." And yes, that makes Nue his brother in this aspect. Even Nue call Rikuo "Rihan's true heir". Squick.

2010-11-19, 13:51	Link #662
Nayrael The Faceless One Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Varaždin, Croatia Age: 33	Spoiler for Chapter 132: As far as I have seen from translations, he said that she looks like Rihan's former wife, not that she is her... __________________

2010-11-19, 15:34	Link #664
Key Board Carbon Join Date: Nov 2003	132 Spoiler: according to granpa, host can't be Rihan's daughter, because Rihan doesn't have a body that can procreate with youkai (because he's only half?) upon consideration, Granpa takes note that the host DOES resemble another youkai that was Rihan's wife S0 there's several theories about this: 1) So I'm guessing that Rihan had a falling out with that wife, and she had a daughter with another youkai? 2) Indications point to Rihan acknowledging that child as his own. Host might have been adopted. That would make the child step siblings with Rikuo 3) Host is actually Rihan's wife reincarnated. This opens up a new kind of bizzare fetish.. oh ho ho

2010-11-19, 22:06	Link #665
evil\|plushie The Last Frontier Join Date: Apr 2004	Spoiler: wait....Rihan couldn't have children with youkai cause he's half?? Doesn't that mean tsurara and rikuos relationship is screwed? __________________ God is on the side with the biggest cannon. http://sining83.blogspot.com

2010-11-19, 22:14	Link #666
Sprite_Coke Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Washington	^ There are relationships without childredn.... You know, like sex buddies. One might argue this is a better relationship... __________________ Click for my MyAnimeList

2010-11-19, 22:54	Link #668
Mizuno Undefined Join Date: May 2004 Location: With the gods Age: 40	I thought them not having the ability to produce offspring with youkai isn't news. Remember that's the curse Kitsune put on the Nura clan, making the new generations weaker. Though how this plays out... I don't know. It's becoming confusing who the host really is.

2010-11-20, 07:19	Link #670
Key Board Carbon Join Date: Nov 2003	It becomes more confusing when you take into consideration that she can touch the seal in previous chapters. Something that supposedly only a human body can do. I'm going to propose a new, if crazy theory Spoiler: The host is in fact Rihan's wife reincarnated in a human body. How? Seimei met her in hell and he used his powers to send her soul back. It might have been coercion or perhaps a deal might have been struck between the two.

2010-11-20, 08:04	Link #673
Ravenblitz \|･ω･`) Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Getting there	Nenekirimaru is destroyed... time to get a new weapon or rebuild it again just like the vongolas can't wait for the next chapter to explain all these events __________________

2010-11-20, 13:39	Link #675
Fenrir_valindri Miria's #1 Disciple Join Date: Apr 2007	It is possible that she is a reincarnation of Rihan's former wife, and Seimei resurrected her because she would be the perfect host for his mother, and as an aside, they used her to kill Rihan because he looked like his former-wife and thus dropped his guard. __________________

2010-11-20, 14:38	Link #676
Key Board Carbon Join Date: Nov 2003	I think that's a very good theory. But you might want to put that in spoilers

2010-11-20, 17:21	Link #677
Mizuno Undefined Join Date: May 2004 Location: With the gods Age: 40	I think we're getting close. Maybe we should think in lines of a homunculus rather than a perfect reincarnation? If she's the reincarnation, who gave birth to this host? And what's left out in the translation is that Yamabuki Otome literally means "Kerria Maiden" and there's a Japanese waka about how the kerria flower grieving its inability to bear fruit... Now it all makes sense. Rihan fell in love with a youkai but because of Kitsune's curse, they cannot produce offsprings. Ayakashi can live for hundreds of years so Yamabuki Otome most likely didn't die of age but she took her own life due to her sorrow. Somehow Seimei was able to take advantage of Rihan's weakness and planned this whole orchestra to have him killed.

2010-11-20, 19:43	Link #678
AvianWing lol whut? Join Date: Jun 2006	I'm having a hard time believing that Rihan is actually dead, since this is shounen and all. I was actually expecting Rihan to burst in and save the day since Rikuo is obviously no match against Seimei.

2010-11-20, 20:11	Link #679
Iggy_Pop Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2007	Remember when people keep saying that somehow Nurarihyon is going to die which somehow will give Rikuo the boost to beat Gitsune? Remember how that never happen? Lots of people also keep saying that Gitsune will reveal that she killed Rihan and that Rikuo suddenly beat him in his anger like many other shonen heroes. Again, never happen. Nuramago isn't exactly original, but doesn't mean it doesn't have it's fair share of subverting shonen tropes either. It's not really surprising if Rihan is dead

2010-11-20, 20:13	Link #680
Mizuno Undefined Join Date: May 2004 Location: With the gods Age: 40	And at the way things are developing... I'd prefer him to stay dead. Btw, anyone notice Kitsune's still holding onto that dear bag of hers?