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View Poll Results: Critique of Episode 10 | |||
10 out of 10: Near Perfect... | 114 | 53.27% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent... | 48 | 22.43% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good... | 26 | 12.15% | |
7 out of 10 : Good... | 10 | 4.67% | |
6 out of 10 : Average... | 7 | 3.27% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average... | 1 | 0.47% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor... | 3 | 1.40% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad... | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad... | 1 | 0.47% | |
1 out of 10: Torturous... | 4 | 1.87% | |
Voters: 214. You may not vote on this poll |
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2012-09-11, 20:26 | Link #501 |
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Welcome to Animesuki, and congratulations on your first post. I'm sure you'll get used to all the functions and rules here soon. As for battle regen, it is a bit of an inconsistency. I was thinking the same thing for the past few episodes, and the only reason I can think of is that the author did not think about battle regen until later on in the story.
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2012-09-11, 20:34 | Link #502 |
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Or another explanation is that although Kuradeel is lower level than Kirito, he's a member of KoB and not a small fly like the Titan's Hand goons. In the Duel with Heathcliff, putting their level aside, just a little scratch to the cheek took 10% HP, now think of a clean hit? Also he not only hit Kirito but also impaled him with the sword and left it there which might also do damage over time.
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Besides this inconsistency. Seems like the animators were careful with this, since we don't get to see the HP bar in Kirito's POV anywhere near 10 seconds each time to witness the tick and HP recovery. And even if you count the seconds since Kuradeel's first stab to time each 10 secs tick, none of the times we switch to Kirito's POV fall into the tick timing. And speaking of this, I mentioned this before, but the Duel victory prompt displayed it lasted 1 min 31 secs. Go and watch it, the animation last almost exactly that. Last edited by Kamui04; 2012-09-11 at 21:02. Reason: Adding info after checking ep 10 again. |
2012-09-11, 21:01 | Link #503 |
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It's fine. Apparently, the producers try to cover all story in the limited time. The story starts with Kirito's adventure, then he comes across Asuna's path once awhile. In their first encounter, Kirito advices Asuna to join the guild. In their second encounter, Kirito and Asuna are arguing about fighting boss. In their third meeting, it's not a coincidence. Asuna stalks Kirito, while Asuna is unwillingly followed by her guild member. In the meantime, Asuna aleady accumulated many admirers. Kirito's definitely the best pick. His best pick up line is, "You remind me about my imouto".
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2012-09-11, 21:35 | Link #504 | |
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Hint: The answer to two of the questions is simply because he is the main character. |
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2012-09-11, 21:41 | Link #505 | |
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Well, prior to the Liz episode we were never shown anything (IMO) that suggested he gave a tinker's damn about escaping. He's likely a MMO addict living inside a MMO. And assuming they can escape he's likely (now) almost two years behind on school, everyone he knew IRL has likely moved on with their lives, and he's going to be an atrophied wreck after being in a coma for two years. Doesn't sound terribly appealing to me. Post that episode I'd say his connections with other players inside the game has convinced him he needs to help these other people escape. - Where does he gets his strength from? He's locked inside a MMO where power / strength = time sunk. So it's fairly straightforward to assume he's simply spent more time 'playing' SAO than anyone else, and since he's a pure solo player he can spend as much time hunting in the world as he likes. All in all, it's a rather negative way to view things, but it's also fairly true. |
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2012-09-11, 21:49 | Link #506 | |||
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(And as I said before, from a structural perspective, I don't think splitting it into two episodes would have kept the same sense of momentum and flow, particularly when you see these three episodes as an arc. That doesn't necessarily mean that I don't think a little bit more time in the episode couldn't have been put to reasonable use... but I don't think splitting it is a good fix.) Quote:
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In my view, the whole show has been practically nothing but character development and now in particular is when we're beginning to see all the pay-off.
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2012-09-11, 22:39 | Link #507 |
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I really don't want to go in length because this is a stupid argument but relentlessflame, if he was really anti-social, why does he help Klein in the beginning? Why does he try to help the guy who died in the first boss battle? Why does he participate in boss battle meetings and fights? Why did he try to take revenge for that guy who had his guildies killed? Why is the show all about Kirito being good?
I know, don't tell me... it was because of Asuna! He hasn't changed because of Asuna nor has he even changed for her. He was never alone as shown by the anime so being with Asuna does not mean he has not changed "a lot." He has always been strong so telling me his strength comes from Asuna is completely wrong. It's just poor direction by the show and somewhat poor writing by the author. |
2012-09-11, 22:54 | Link #508 | |
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The strength I'm talking about is not the strength to swing a sword (or two). It's inner strength and a sense of purpose. That's what "character development" is about. Even in his previous interactions with other people until now, he was still relatively cold and withdrawn (but still kind, as Asuna points out). Now, he's finally opening up to someone else sincerely. (I don't see what would be gained by showing him week after week grinding experience alone just to convey the point that he's mostly a loner. It's not exactly exciting to watch. The encounters they show are significant to Kirito because they're exceptional, not necessarily the norm.) Yes, he's the hero, and as the hero he has certain innate advantages that fix him at the center of the story. But that doesn't mean that he has no character or no character development. I'm not really sure how much more it would take for you to be able to empathize with him in the story.
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2012-09-11, 23:15 | Link #510 |
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I have a feeling that if SAO actually made Kirito as the perfect hero that doesn't really have/need character development from the get go instead of the rather subtle one like we have now then this franchise wouldn't get as many criticisms. My personal view is that I'm torn that SAO offers a lot of potential because of lots of intricate settings, but is rather lacking in delivering most of everything else (except the cool factor, this one is enjoyable enough).
It would be easier for me if the author made SAO something akin to Ginga Bishounen to enjoy the cool factor, services and shippings to the max. Or actually make it a full blown philosophical/surreal story like SE Lain. Or even like .Hack where it skips over any technicalities and focus on the characters. As it is now, I'm unsure as to how to regard SAO because it hasn't been too successful to lean to either direction.
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2012-09-11, 23:19 | Link #511 | ||
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I wouldn't answer cause I'm dumb or its meaning depends on ones interpretation.
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Weapon's and stat given by him by the game.... corny but it's also his determination with support of the people he cared about including Asuna ... but not only Asuna..... If you think none of us could satisfy your need for answers... well, we are not oblige to explain... |
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2012-09-11, 23:21 | Link #513 |
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I've already been struggling with that in one show this season, and I'd rather not have to deal with it again. Having flaws, failures, character growth, these are all things that I'm glad Kirito has. That's what makes fiction worth it.
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2012-09-11, 23:34 | Link #514 |
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My rationale would be to make clear what SAO is all about. As it is now, all kinds of people could be attracted to this franchise and find it not to their liking (hence lots of voices of disappointment).
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2012-09-11, 23:50 | Link #515 | |
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If the show didn't have the balance of elements it has, I'm not sure that I'd like it as much, so I'm glad it is the way it is. That doesn't mean that it's beyond potential improvement... but I do think it's hard to speak too definitively on how things should change until we understand the way everything comes together in the end.
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2012-09-11, 23:57 | Link #516 |
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OK, I agree with you on this...for now. Though, I know they were most likely joking, but the first few pages where the LN readers says "surprise! we actually only care about Asuna x Kirito and not much else! ", it kind of hurt my expectations of what's to come
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2012-09-12, 02:36 | Link #519 | |
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The fact is, half the time you've actually been watching, as another poster called it, Side Arc Online. The main focus of side stories is NOT development at all. As I recently discovered myself, you are putting too much weight on these side stories. The whole point of side stories are to explore a single aspect or theme, which in many cases, are not the ones you were focused on because of the missing context that the novel readers had received. The problem with presenting these side stories first is exactly the impression many of us anime-only watchers had faced. We see Kirito as super-Kirito because half the time we see him do things which only he seems capable of, but the fact of the matter is, many of those times he was actually back in a down-leveled area. Of course, you had to be extremely sharp to remember that, otherwise you travel the wrong train of thought because the show seems to be emphasizing on how strong Kirito is, but that in fact was never the point of the side stories (figuring out what the real point of the side story is different argument though). |
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2012-09-12, 03:09 | Link #520 | |
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I don't think this show required knowledge of the novels to understand. But I do think it required you to suspend your judgement and just wait and see where they go with things that may not seem to follow logically at that time. I think that's still the case to a certain degree even now, because even more puzzle pieces are doubtless continuing to drop and be fit together by the show.
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