2008-04-16, 07:52 | Link #121 |
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OH come on, who has been the true Vampire Knight throughout the manga? A knight is a protector, who disregards his own being to devote himself to protecting another out of unselfish acts. Kaname or Zero? This should be blatantly obvious.... And Yuuki looks like a damn little kid with that long hair and one piece dress! It disgust me that the 2 blood relations, Kaname and Yuuk, have kissed more than once and even after being fully aware of who they are. Yuuki states that it's something beast do, well you know what, there are a lot of animals who avoid doing such a thing.
I feel Yuuki love towards Kaname has been out of gratitude, infatuation, and care, but the one she truly loves and wants to be with is Zero. It has been shown time and time over again that these 2 need each other and long to be with each other. Last edited by ThoHell; 2008-04-16 at 08:05. |
2008-04-16, 09:20 | Link #122 |
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Zero is too good for her? You do realize that Zero is a scitzo right? The guy puts the "E" in Emo, i think he's a very annoying character. For someone who loves and cares about Yuuki so much he doesn't trust her with his secrets or tell her anything. Furthermore there isn't anything in the interactions that says that the type of love that Yuuki has for Kanami is different the the type she has for Zero. Yuuki shows concern and compassion for Zero but her passion seems to be saved for Kanami. Thats how I see it. Oh, and you guys got to get over the incest thing, its not that big a deal in Japanese culture cousins marry all the time, as a matter of fact from what I understand its encouraged. So the fact that Kanami and Yuuki are distantly related doesn't mean anything.
(thought that being said I do have this funny feeling that it will be zero in the end Gag me) |
2008-04-16, 09:27 | Link #123 |
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I thought Kaname and Yuuki aren't real siblings to begin with. You know from the latest chapter where Kaname said that he was some Kuran ancestor that had been resurrected by Rido. >_>
If anything Kaname is too good for Yuuki. |
2008-04-16, 09:40 | Link #124 | |
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2008-04-16, 09:43 | Link #125 |
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what's bother me is ..
the mangka put more attention to zero in this Story !! So that's why I'm afraid he's the one That will end up with Yuuki !! also it's annoying ..always zero zero ... we only see the sorrow in his eyes and he want to ends his life !! So what next ... Yuuki crying in the ED of the anime it's doesn't mean that kanami will die ...maybe ,but if u remember the End of the anime Op .. Yuuki was kissing a hand ..I think it was kanami hand ..so it's maybe a clue !?!? |
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Wow, didn't expect one small observation would stir up this much controversy. At least the manga thread is alive.
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2008-04-16, 13:32 | Link #127 | |
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Yuki might just like zero as much as kaname...the thing is she is not concious of it and aso does not fully understand zero's feelings for her. Case in point...when he was in the infirmary...he was about to kiss yuki...at that moment she kept on blushing as that image kept on appearing, she noticed how zero was acting like nothing had happen afterwards and may have come with the conclusion...that it meant nothing for him...she seemed down about it if you ask me. So yeah I think Yuki might love zero more then kaname, hell who knows maybe aside from kaname saving her another reason for her to be smewhat infatuated with kaname is because they both are pure bloods and....I guess the blood in her is calling out for him...but her heart belongs to Zero? Her crying after leaving the room pretty much seals it up for me, that she loves zero. |
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2008-04-16, 13:40 | Link #128 | |
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Advise to Zero: pack your bag and leave! Too much drama. Or he can go do a lot of killing, need more action!
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2008-04-16, 14:34 | Link #129 |
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Yuuki and Zero: the Princess and her knight. I really don't mind who Yuuki ends up with. I like both Kaname and Zero, and it's just sad that one of them will be disappointed.
Yuuki pairing with Zero pretty much seals the pacifist theory of human and vampire, even though Zero is a vampire; perhaps it should be looked at as vampire hunters representing the human breed. It probably would be a lot better if Yuuki does go with Zero because the difference between these two and all the others is that they lived on both sides of the world, both as a human and as a vampire. While human, Yuuki learns the compassion and humility of being human which she brings with her when she returns to being a vampire. Zero, on the other hand, learns the agony of living as a vampire controlled by your thirst for blood (and that vampires are really victims for being who they are); it sort of refers back to his question to his sensei in the flashback as to why vampires hunt humans. These two are probably the only ones who truly understand the pains and problems of both sides - and I think that may be what the mangaka is setting up.
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2008-04-16, 14:44 | Link #130 |
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Does it seem like Kaname looks at Yuuki as more of an object than what is in front of him. Or maybe he doesn't, we know he loves her. But he has forced himself upon her several times and not once have regretted it, even though Yuuki was uncomfortable each time. Zero forced himself on Yuuki once, and he was disgusted with himself for it, not only for printing fresh blood but for what he did to Yuuki. He cares, so does Kaname, but Zero thinks of Yuuki (about her feelings and stuff like that), not just think about Yuuki. Does that make sense? I made sense to me, but maybe not to others. Ever since the first time Zero forced himself on Yuuki, she has welcomed him countless times afterward and wasn't uncomfortable, we know it's for his good but Yuuki won't even let Kaname do that without freaking out.
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2008-04-16, 19:52 | Link #131 |
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On Yuki's feelings I am also one of those that believes that she truly loves Zero, but her infatuation towards Kaname has blinded her from the truth. The best proof is that the first time that she regained consciouness the first person she thought about was Zero and rushed over to see him, and yeah she might have acted cold towards him but she was also crying.
Another thing to notice is how Kaname acts all possesive towards Yuki, and those types of characters tend to end up alone in these romance stories. |
2008-04-16, 22:27 | Link #132 | |
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My thoughts are this. Zero needs Yuuki more then Yuuki needs Zero. And even Zero told Yuuki that she needed Kaname. In fact several times Zero has pointed out that she cares for Kaname. I think that's important. One thing I will arguu about untill I'm hourse is this, Kaname loves Yuuki deeply. And Yuuki has only shown any kind of passion for Kaname. The Manga has really shown a lot of Zero but know I think were begining to see more and more of Kaname. And now that Yuuki has joined Vampire world I think his influince wil be felt more then ever. Yo Vinak you jumped over from the Claymore side. Sup dude
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2008-04-16, 23:10 | Link #133 |
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Ruka should steal Kaname away. lol. Or Seiren. Or that Pureblood chick(the one w/ looooooooong hair) or some new character. Or just something. Kaname's character seems pitiful he'd been shafted like for almost 4-5 volumes it's all been Zero from the start. >_>.
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2008-04-16, 23:30 | Link #134 |
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Although Zero is wonderful in his own right, I think details about him has been done enough - not a lot more to tell. What I want to know more about now is Kaname. After 38 chapters, we really still know so little about him - aside from the fact that he does truly love Yuuki. (And it seems that we weren't the only ones in the dark about the dark knight, his vampire guardians know little about him as well).
After re-reading the entire 38 chapters again (), I get a strong impression that, although Zero also loves Yuuki, his love isn't at the same level as Kaname's. (Oops, did I open another can of worms? )
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2008-04-16, 23:36 | Link #135 |
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Kaname...is...boring.... The event which occur around him may not be, but he himself is boring. I don't think it would be too entertaining to have him at the center of attention for several volumes. Remove Zero from the sotry and leave everyone else and what do you have? A rather 1 dimension story.
Kaname's love for Yuuki is like obsession, Zero's love for her is just love. Zero wants her to be happy, he puts Yuuki above himself and all else (You can say Kaname puts Yuuki above all else, but he treats her more like a possession instead of somewhat on equal grounds with him(by equal grounds I'm referring to a relationship which takes 2 to work, communication, trust, respect, etc.)). Of course he'll make wrong mistakes because he's not her nor will he know everything that's going on in her head. I definitely don't like Kaname using some guilt trip to hold onto Yuuki. "Are you going to leave me alone?", as in are you not going to be by my side and make me lonely and suffer? |
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who know .. maybe in the end no one will end up with Yuuki ... I'm still thinking that someone will die ... If Yuuki in The Anime ED was crying it maybe because : - she finally know her past , but still it's hurt cuz she's a Vampire now and everything changes and she's not like before ... - zero or kaname died ... I think the new CH will be out at 22/4 , so only 5 days from now ... Quote:
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2008-04-17, 00:28 | Link #138 | |
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Even now that she has awakend, she didn't mature the slightest bit. Yes her personality took on some new traits, but as to maturing, I think not. I dind't say think that she's a possession, but rather treats her like one. "Why do you not listen to me?" "Stay here in this room and don't go out""I will be protecting her now"(I a way saying to Zero to back off and I'll take over being by her side). And the guy has some nerve to, he purposely torments Zero with what he says and how he acts/embraces Yuuki in front of him. "Become my lover and I'll tell you what happened 10 years ago". And as for him protecting her, sure he has protected her several times, but he was hardly there for most of her life. She is well watched as is, and is doing fine in the world of Vampire without Kaname around. You can say he was busy or the real danger just arrived, but there has been danger since the beginning and lets be honest, he is hardly around for the majority of her life. Yes he's around and she sees him nearly everyday, but the time together is meager. Oh, by the way, I'm not fighting for a Zero X Yuuki pairing. Just pointing out stuff. I really want Zero to pack his bags and leave the girl behind, a life without a drama queen is...goooooood. Zero is the only character I like, so everyone else eh don't really care, actually Zero's teacher is pretty cool too. Zero just needs to go off and be an action hero! Anime/Manga on the adventures of Zero and let the 2 incest couple do their thing, enough of that bs. |
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There's a small clip in chapter 35 that has me confused for a while. At first I thought it was Ichijou who said those lines but it didn't make sense, which was why I was confused. Now that I re-read it again, I realized that there is another person out there searching for Kaname.
Quote: "Is there no other way? I've gotta give up on searching for you. It's always been like that hasn't it?" Definitely not Ichijou saying that because there's the silhouette of a long haired, cloaked individual. Hmm, seems like it there might be more twists and turns coming later after all.
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and iirc; Zero came in around 4 years before the start of the story. Making Yuuki like (10-11) yrs old when they met. So as much memory or whatever Yuuki has for zero; it's just on equal terms on Kaname. Just that; Zero has more screentime than Kaname on the manga. >_>. |
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