2012-04-25, 18:56 | Link #201 | |
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Why is it "ageist"? If they made some kind of sweeping generalization that "old men are ALL pervs" then I'd agree with you, but they don't.
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2012-04-25, 19:03 | Link #202 | |
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2012-04-25, 19:09 | Link #203 | |
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However, is Golden Darkness really lumped in with those people? Yes, the whole overreact to perverted situations is overdone and gets lame, but IIRC it gets toned down as she adapts to society. And being an alien assassin who's mixed on whether to eliminate her target or not makes it somewhat more reasonable. Not that I will defend TLR's tendency to repeat the same stupid gag over and over again. It's just not that good of an anime period. >.>
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2012-04-25, 20:20 | Link #205 | |
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2012-04-25, 20:41 | Link #206 |
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Absolutely dense male characters make me want to go on a rampage. I mean a certain level of denseness is acceptable but when they can't figure out what's in front them for the umpteenth time it makes my blood boil.
The worst offenders of this are Hayate(Hayate no Gotaku), Inuyasha, Akihisa(Baka to Test). I know they are pretty poor examples, but I watched those three shows and it just irks the hell outta me.
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2012-04-26, 00:14 | Link #207 | |
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And no, I wasn't suggesting ryona. It's just that in maid-sama, the female protagonist is very alpha even with most males around her, and yet she submits (although frustratingly) to the male protag instead of the other way around as the trope dictates. Though if you hate the behavior then perhaps this isn't for you.
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2012-04-26, 00:31 | Link #208 | |
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Male density, hmm.. I think it's because it sends the message, "Never assume a girl is into you just because she's nice or all possessive or tsundere towards you."
But... just how dense is too dense really? And how males SHOULD be dense in Real Life? How can we guys be sure that the girls are REALLY into us? Because personally, I don't want to assume a girl likes me just because she's nice, possessive, or tsundere towards me. I WANT TO MAKE DAMN SURE A GIRL LIKES ME BEFORE I ACCEPT HER FEELINGS. So yes, I AM A DENSE GUY. Quote:
I'll ask you a question: Which of these girls do you like the most? - One who's mad all the time - One who's quiet at first, then goes mad after a while - One who's quiet all the time - One who's angry at first then goes quiet after a while You choose. |
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2012-04-26, 01:19 | Link #210 | |
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But to be honest boiling Kyon/Haruhi, Araragi/Hitagi, etc. down to abuse, "higher than thou" and Stolkholm syndrome feels like a massive oversimplification to me (too early to comment on Medaka Box). I'd be hard pressed to say I see Haruhi and Hitagi as similar characters in the first place. Insecurity about intimacy and wanton disregard and distaste for social norms are completely different issues - and manifest in rather different ways.
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2012-04-26, 01:25 | Link #211 |
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A bishounen character who seems too perfect for his own good(so handsome, so rich, so powerful). Tamaki in Ouran is a good example.
In case your are arguing about Medaka, she actually had plenty of flaws like her superiority complex and of course animals hate her. |
2012-04-26, 04:28 | Link #212 | |
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I consider tsunderes a cliche and an overused one at that. Whats up with all that constant screaming and aggresive behaviour. Give a female chara a highpitched annying voice and I am bound to hate her guts. Have her hit the male lead for no good reason and I am dropping the anime.
What I also hate are female characters, that look and act like kids and then they get upset when adults take them for kids. The best example for this would be that dwarf sempai from "working". I only watched the first episode and the sempai killed the mood from get go. So people think she is a child and I dont blame them. Irs not just her height that gives that impression, it is the way she behaves. One would think that if her small frame works against her, she would try to compensate by showing her maturity, but no no, she acts like a spoiled 5 years old and then gets all upset about it too and for some inexplicable reason starts banging with her fists on the male lead and rant on and ON about it. That was annoying enough... but then the orange haired girl joined the cast and starting hitting males into their face and that was the moment I switched the episode off. Good lord, enough is inuf. Quote:
Is Tamaki perfect? Nah I dont think so. So yeah the highschool ladies are falling all over him, but how superficial is that interest? I mean, they go for him because he has exotic looks and because he is sweet talking them into coma. They all know it is fake and he says the same stuff to all of them, but thats not the point. They want to forget for the moment his words are just an act and they want to live the phantasy. He gives it to them and all are happy. But when Tamaki gets serious about a girl, does he have the same type of success? I mean look at his relationship with Misaki. He likes her a lot, yet fails to communicate his feelings in the right way. He sulks half the time and.... well, at least he gets that dance at the end. But is Tamaki really perfect? I would say he is far away from it. If I were to pick a rich, good looking and arrogant brat, I would go for Usui from Kaicho wa maid sama. Dont get me wrong, I actually liked that anime and I have nothing against Usui as such, but he is the typical stereotype. I heard he has issues too that were never shown in the anime and only manga readers know about it, but in my opinion it was a mistake they didnt anime it. The way I saw Usui he was a 2D super male lead. There is a bunch of other examples in animes. I mean, I could name probably about 10 animes with richt super heroes right off the bat. Tamaki never striked me as perfect though. |
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2012-04-26, 04:51 | Link #213 | ||
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There are girls like Popura who don't look their age AND don't act their age. Age and maturity DON'T always come together. One can be a five-year-old and be as mature as a 55-year-old, and another can be a 55-year-old who still acts like a 5-year-old. Mahiru had a very overprotective father, so he taught her that boys are such evil creatures (!) that she has to avoid them. As such, not only he taught her to punch every guy who comes close to her, he also secretly put weights in her handbag to build up her strength. I don't know what got into her father's head, but saying that all guys are evil is just plain wrong. So he wants her dearest daughter to remain a virgin forever? Great job, dad. |
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2012-04-26, 05:17 | Link #214 |
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pfft omg ik wa tyour saying about the weapons in anime every single lil sword known to the universe of anime is katanna katanna katanna katanna katanna katanna {five weeks later] katanna katanna katanna
bet you that the newest anime is gona be about a legendery sword to vanguish butthole trolls and it well be a katanna |
2012-04-26, 05:25 | Link #215 | |
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Because Every Japanese Sword Is A Katana, that's what. Though, really, NOT every Japanese sword is a katana. It's just called that. Although, there ARE anime which feature Western-style cruciform swords more than Japanese ones, but most of them have Western characters, to say the least. |
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2012-04-26, 07:25 | Link #217 | ||
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Also, I have never actually seen a woman do such a thing in the public and should I know a woman who beats guys for whatever reason, I would definately distance myself from such a person. Quote:
In other words: girl, if you want to be accepted as an adult, start behaving like one. |
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2012-04-26, 08:21 | Link #220 | |
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Afaik girls in real life (particularly of the now) does have a reputation for being wishy washy and not straight about how they truly feels. It's really not that rare for a girl to act all sullen and cold to a male they actually love. One could even argue it's the "standard" personality of most girls. Of course, them being Real Girls, their personalities can't be simplified just like that.
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Why hasn't anyone came up and say "I hate men that hits women" or just simply "I hate people who hits people"? Seriously, is it the hitting or the gender roles that bothers people? Adding "for no reason" to it can make up a good enough reason to hate the act, but apparently there's also some who don't care if the one hitting had reasons or not.
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