Nanoha - Image Thread (wallpapers, fan art, gifs, etc.)

[Mr Coin]

Out of all the characters in MSLN, Fate is the most Mary Sue. She's after all - the most broken of the three Aces.

[Ithekro]

Well there is that, but Nanoha is loved by all...one way or another.

[Akiyoshi]

Originally Posted by Mr Coin

Out of all the characters in MSLN, Fate is the most Mary Sue. She's after all - the most broken of the three Aces.

Agreed, Nanoha has evolved into a pretty powerfull mage but at the cost of many beatings and she always end up struggling against impossibly strong opponent's and lately she only wins her battles by pushing herself far beyond her limits with the obvious consequences. So yeah, not very Mary Su-ish.

Fate is the most balanced of the Three Aces, while not as assorted as Nanoha's arsenal, Fate also posses some heavy firepower attacks and is a proficient attacker in every range which gives her an edge over Hayate and good chances to beat Nanoha if the chance arises.

[itanshi1]

methinks this conversation is supposed to be in theories |3

[Demi.]

Originally Posted by Mr Coin

Out of all the characters in MSLN, Fate is the most Mary Sue. She's after all - the most broken of the three Aces.

Huh?

Unless you mean "broken" in that sense..and are just being sarcastic. Then okay.

I don't think any Nanoha character is a Mary Sue, but Nanoha best fits the bill, as she learned magic almost instantly, and proceeded to use it to beat some of the most powerful mages in the Nanoverse.

[Archon_Wing]

There are no Mary Sues in the series proper; considering what a Mary Sue is.

It may be true that Nanoha is an idealistic series, and that has an effect on character portrayal, but still..,

[Craxuan]

Hayate has doubts that she could even win Caro lol, Fate will kick her butt in a flash.

[Demi.]

Well yeah, Hayate is definitely not geared towards solo battles.

[Blank-Mage]

Fate - Close Range.
Nanoha - Mid Range.
Hayate - Long Range.

I think it works out pretty well.

[Mr Coin]

Originally Posted by Demi.

Huh?

Unless you mean "broken" in that sense..and are just being sarcastic. Then okay.

I don't think any Nanoha character is a Mary Sue, but Nanoha best fits the bill, as she learned magic almost instantly, and proceeded to use it to beat some of the most powerful mages in the Nanoverse.

Fate obeyed her mother like a doll just to get her mother's love despite getting abused made her look so broken.

Thank Saint Kaiser that Nanoha meet her.

Getting turned into a punching bag and being treated as an insect by her own mother does not make her mary sue... She is much more of a "cute little fluffy puppy being kicked" person.

It's just that some authors and doujin makers(if there was) of fanon made her so mary sue.

Originally Posted by Archon_Wing

There are no Mary Sues in the series proper; considering what a Mary Sue is.

It may be true that Nanoha is an idealistic series, and that has an effect on character portrayal, but still..,

Canon is not Mary Sue... fanon made things so exaggerated and Mary sue.

I don't mind the exaggeration (example: Nanoha destroyed a freaking planet by possible means by traveling to the planet's core and used a Blaster 3 Starlight Breaker).

The mary sue was just a turn-off (example: Nanoha was getting punished by her own parents for being different, she is a super genius with a photo-graphic memory, she has a linker core of SSS magic power, she is an admiral at the age of 9. She can destroy worlds with the mere swing of her pinky finger. And she is self righteous and always right. And much more)

[Rising Dragon]

Coin, in the case of discussions of mary sues and the like (which really should be taken elsewhere at this point), the term "broken" refers to gamebreaking, and not being mentally or physically broken. Think GaoGaiGar being used in Gundam--that kind of broken.

[Old_Iron]

Been a while since I posted anything in this thread. I should remedy that. No real rhyme or reason behind the contents, but I have to say that Subaru and Schach are looking rather sexy here.

[Demi.]

Originally Posted by Mr Coin

It's just that some authors and doujin makers(if there was) of fanon made her so mary sue.

So I guess you're referring to fanfics then? I suppose they can alter a character to however they want in order to compliment the story.

[Mr Coin]

Originally Posted by Rising Dragon

Coin, in the case of discussions of mary sues and the like (which really should be taken elsewhere at this point), the term "broken" refers to gamebreaking, and not being mentally or physically broken. Think GaoGaiGar being used in Gundam--that kind of broken.

Thanks for the lesson...

Originally Posted by Old_Iron

Been a while since I posted anything in this thread. I should remedy that. No real rhyme or reason behind the contents, but I have to say that Subaru and Schach are looking rather sexy here.

Sein: You can't touch me

Snach: Yes I will! *super rage mode*

[Sunder the Gold]

Originally Posted by Blank-Mage

Fate - Close Range.
Nanoha - Mid Range.
Hayate - Long Range.

I think it works out pretty well.

Except Fate has shooting and bombardment spells which are competitive with Nanoha's. Was Thunder Smasher noticeably inferior compared to Divine Buster? What about Photon Lancer, regular and Genocide Shift?

Fate doesn't have Starlight Breaker, but she does have the Electricity conversion affinity and weather-control powers that let her use lightning bolts for power ups.

Fate's defenses are weaker, but she has superior speed. And her close range abilities are superior.


Nanoha won their final duel because she used Starlight Breaker, and probably also because Fate had spent the last week or so neglecting her health while hunting Jewel Seeds on the run from the Arthra's sensors and mages.

Nanoha was also no where near as psychologically conflicted.


I know that Nanoha is the main character and all, but Fate is honestly a much more skilled and possibly more overall powerful combat mage.

[itanshi1]

why are we having a debate in the image thread x_x

[Akiyoshi]

Originally Posted by Sunder the Gold

I know that Nanoha is the main character and all, but Fate is honestly a much more skilled and possibly more overall powerful combat mage.

True, Fate is superior to Nanoha in the overall aspects of skill and physical prowess but in the general scenario Nanoha has developed a key advantage in the form of her experience and constant training. Fate is sort of a Detective so it means she isn't always fighting and most of the time she needs to do report and investigation work while Nanoha, as an instructor, improves and tune-up her skills as also mantains her physical prowess by the constant practice and battle analysis. Probably Fate didn't have much to worry about her physique or abilities due to her innate talent and augmented body but Nanoha is always ready and fine tuned for a magical battle which is one of her most recognizable and dangerous traits, one that makes her unique among more careless powerhouses like Fate or Signum.

[Demi.]

It doesn't really matter which character seems stronger on paper. Titular character armor is always going to have Nanoha coming out on top.

[Koveras Alvane]

Originally Posted by Old_Iron

That image would have been epic if not for that godawful pigeon toe. =__= Why do all the anime artists believe so fervently that being a woman automatically gives you feet deformities? Seiko is a combat mage, goddamn it, and that's not a stance a fighter should stand in![/rant]

Originally Posted by itanshi1

why are we having a debate in the image thread x_x

My guess? Folks here are yearning for moderator attention.

EDIT: Page claim for badass women who fight in a proper stance instead of mimicking the allegedly cutesy pigeon toes.

[Akiyoshi]

^ To be fair the image looks like it's after a battle so Stern didn't have the need to be in a "fight stance".