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2011-03-15, 17:43 | Link #2423 |
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I heard he was out of the country during the earthquake and tsunami. May'n, Megumi and Yuichi Nakamura also have checked in.
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2011-05-17, 09:27 | Link #2424 | |
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All the books I've come across mention the Frontier Fleet as launching in 2041.
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2011-05-17, 09:31 | Link #2425 |
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Your superficial understanding of Macross history is becoming very irksome. So no, YOU look back. Hell, do some research!
2012 was the beginning of the human space expansion project initiated by Admiral Global to ensure that mankind will never face total annihilation by another alien invasion. In 2012, human technology was only sufficient enough to produce the MEGAROAD class, which we know the first was never heard from again after it commenced a long-distance fold. Over time, other bigger, better colonial vessels launched either from Earth or elsewhere. By September 2030, the MEGAROAD class colonization vessels were then replaced by the super high-capacity New-Macross class, which had the capacity to carry one million people. One of these new colonial vessels became an integral part of the story to Macross 7 (2046), with the launch date confirmed by the TV show itself. It was NOT until 2041 did another new colonial vessel come into existence, and one of them eventually became the Macross 25. - Tak
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2011-05-17, 10:28 | Link #2426 |
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And where does one get the impression that Alto's mom was born on the ship?
Didn't she yearn for a true sky? How would she even know what one of those was to miss it, had she never seen one?
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2011-05-17, 23:52 | Link #2427 |
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I think they're just showing that all those colony ships launched from Earth (though that does indicate that Frontier was launched from Earth, not Eden). 2012 was the year the first colony ship was launched. However 2012 was also a mere three years after most of Earth's population was wiped out in Space War I. Basically the only survivors were those aboard the SDF-1 Macross and -according to supplementary material- one million people who had shelter in the grand cannons. The Frontier fleet has a populations of about five million on Island One alone -and it's only one of the colonisation fleets that was sent out. You really think all those fleets were launched in 2012? Even with mass cloning involved that's pretty out there for a three year effort to reconstruct human civilization. Megaroad One (the first colony ship) had a population in the tens of thousands for a reason.
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2011-05-17, 23:57 | Link #2428 |
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I dont mean to come out of now where but regardless of when MF first launched couldn't Alto's mother still be born on Earth?
Sure she died young but that was like what 10 years ago at most? since alto looked to be about 7 to 10. I mean she could have been born on earth on 2012 (before the launch) or 2011, then when she is 30 (2041/2) had Alto and then die when she was like 40 (2051/2) making Alto like 10. and since alto's birthday IS July 27, 2042 that means in a sense if we go by my theory (since there is no actual facts on how old/when his mother died) this can prove that Alto's mother can indeed be born on earth even if MF launched on 2012. That and you cant REALLY say she was young just cause she LOOKED young, this is an anime so you can never tell unless there is official info. I mean there are a lot of animes and mangas where the parents look really young. :/ Even Kagome's mother looked young, the only thing that made her look older was her hair. . . Edit: If you dont believe about Alto's B-day its in the MF The Movie Official Guidebook Perfect Triangle. I am looking at it right now. :3 |
2011-05-18, 00:04 | Link #2429 | |
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Are you trying to impose your own fanon reading and presenting it as canon? Because seriously, that's how you sound right now. I'm not claiming to be knowledgeable on Macross history 101, but besides the different Macross TV/OVA titles—which are all linked, mind you—there are guidebooks, sourcebooks and good ol' wikipedia that can verify this information. I don't understand why you're trying to convince others with this one diagram... and please dear god, don't tell me it's related to shipping. The fact of the matter is, the anime only shows a diagram of continuous space travel, but it never gets into the specifics on how said travel is accomplished. A space colony wouldn't survive if it's supposed to explore the far reaches of space—no matter how self-sufficient it is—if its means of communication and travel would take light years to reach the next colony or planet. How do people migrate and visit other colonies? How do idols conduct their tours? How can one colony answer a call for aid from another? How does command give orders to its pilots who are currently in a faraway combat zone? Simply put, communication and space travel is done via space-folding, which cuts down years and years of delay and waiting. It doesn't mean that a colony launched that far back in the past in order to get where they are now. Last edited by kujoe; 2011-05-18 at 00:15. |
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But regarding her age, he says she was young. And also regarded her body as being weak. Regardless of your judgment, I think she was born on Frontier. Besides, all she'd have to see is a movie from Earth and yearn for that sky. It isn't hard for ALTO to imagine a true sky yet he's never even SEEN one.
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2011-05-18, 00:20 | Link #2431 |
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. . . 42 is still young and its an especially young age to die, so my theory can still work.
And you can still yearn for something you have/haven't seen or had. and like you said she could have seen a movie from earth to yearn for it, so if she can why cant Alto? Besides if you look at the definition of yearn its Have an intense feeling of loss or lack and longing for something Be filled with compassion or warm feeling so they could still both yearn for it. |
2011-05-18, 00:22 | Link #2432 | |
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2011-05-18, 00:25 | Link #2433 | |
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Macross has always been the type of anime which has background information that can be found in other media, and it's not alone in this regard. Other works are in the same boat. In this case, the presentation of the anime is either simplified, flawed or incomplete on purpose in order to expand the setting and convince fans to check out other forms of merchandise. Another fact is that Macross Frontier isn't the first in the franchise, so it assumes that there will be viewers who already have enough background knowledge of their own. What's so difficult about this? |
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2011-05-18, 00:29 | Link #2434 |
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wiki doesnt have the all the info. i mean if they did wouldnt they have at least the basic infos? like say the character birthdays? cause sometimes they would have information like birthdays and their heights. but yet they dont even have Ranka's info even though that was given to us at like the beginning of the anime. :/ i am too lazy to find out which info book it is in.
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2011-05-18, 00:35 | Link #2435 | |
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I just mentioned it as another possible media source that is outside the anime. It seems a few people have missed it. The point is this: YES, you can find other Macross-related information outside the TV series. Sourcebooks, interviews conducted after the show, the internet and so on. |
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2011-05-18, 00:45 | Link #2437 | |
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is that wiki enough for you? If you really want to delve into wiki's make sure you at least try searching for one that is more specifically geared towards your information of choice. There, in plain wiki-esque font and premise, it states that the Macross Frontier Fleet launched in 2041. |
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2011-05-18, 00:46 | Link #2438 | ||
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2011-05-18, 00:53 | Link #2439 | |
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Guys, let's discuss without breaking our keyboards now.
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But one thing to remember is to be open to the idea that perhaps the information in one TV anime series has been expanded elsewhere, especially if said series is part of a long-running franchise. I don't buy other anime-related merchandise myself, save for DVDs and blu-ray releases, but Macross-related information can be found elsewhere. Just look around, or ask. |
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2011-05-18, 00:55 | Link #2440 |
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Honestly if this is for the triangle this has to stop I mean first of all this isnt the thread for it and second the triangle is OVER, FINISHED, DONE. I mean come on my friend who is an EXTREME Ranka and RankaxAlto fan has excepted the fact that Alto picked Sheryl. I mean after a while she actually told me to make an AMV about how ranka doesnt get chosen but is still happy. >3<
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